2020 New allocation vs purchasing from dealer
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I wouldn't pay a single dollar over sticker for the G63. It's a mass produced model to start and it will be in production for many years to come.
I didn't even walk into a Mercedes dealership. Just picked up my phone and called my Porsche GM. He made a phone call to the sister Mercedes dealership and voila, 2020 G63 to be delivered in 5 months time at MSRP. I HATE dealing with BMW/Mercedes dealerships.
I didn't even walk into a Mercedes dealership. Just picked up my phone and called my Porsche GM. He made a phone call to the sister Mercedes dealership and voila, 2020 G63 to be delivered in 5 months time at MSRP. I HATE dealing with BMW/Mercedes dealerships.
What is the point of your post? This thread is about the general difficulty in obtaining an allocation at MSRP? or even one above MSRP; not a tally if who can get one and how..
Yes, I already have my 2019 G63 in my garage. I don't sit and say "ha ha, I don't even walk into MB dealerships, have outside connections, never pay over MSRP, etc" as a response to every post someone makes about the difficulty in obtaining one. You think people love paying over MSRP or dealing with arrogant dealership personnel?
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The dealer at the SoCal allocation said I would have to pay a market adjustment.
The point of my post was that I was able to spec out exactly a G63 how I wanted. If they charge an arm and a leg in December, I can walk and get my deposit back.
People suggested Manhattan as that was corporate and couldn’t charge MSRP but even my rep said the list was 80-90 deep and I didn’t want to take a risk on the verbiage of my deposit not being refundable.
This was just to inform you guys who are currently in the market shopping for a G63 of your options.
Hope this helps.
The point of my post was that I was able to spec out exactly a G63 how I wanted. If they charge an arm and a leg in December, I can walk and get my deposit back.
People suggested Manhattan as that was corporate and couldn’t charge MSRP but even my rep said the list was 80-90 deep and I didn’t want to take a risk on the verbiage of my deposit not being refundable.
This was just to inform you guys who are currently in the market shopping for a G63 of your options.
Hope this helps.
Well I found out that Manhattan verbally said they would refund the deposit but they would not put it in writing that the deposit was refundable. It’s states on the contract that if you do not purchase the car, the deposit could not be refundable.
I found a dealer in SoCal that had an allocation in October for December arrival for a 2020 model.
I found a dealer in SoCal that had an allocation in October for December arrival for a 2020 model.
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If you're a "normal joe" - then a SoCal Dealer in Dec this year will charge you $25K-$35K over - and not blink a eye if you decide to walk out... it's unfortunate SoCal dealer's on any luxury brand are able to set their own rules on high demand models..
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Point is you need to work harder. We live in America, land of the opportunities and free market. We also live in a world where the strong eats the weak. Why do you think we enjoy the cheap gas price that we have here in the US and not the other countries? You think that was just pure luck or the fact that we bombed the crap out of certain countries and occupy them with our military bases around the world?
People on these forums complaint about ADM and paying over sticker. It's Economics 101, if there are no excessive demand for the product, there will be no mark up. You want a car that is currently hot in the market? Pay up and enjoy it now or you just wait it out. Especially for a mass-produced car like the G63, give it another 12 months and the market craziness will come down. I find these ADM posts to be pointless.
People on these forums complaint about ADM and paying over sticker. It's Economics 101, if there are no excessive demand for the product, there will be no mark up. You want a car that is currently hot in the market? Pay up and enjoy it now or you just wait it out. Especially for a mass-produced car like the G63, give it another 12 months and the market craziness will come down. I find these ADM posts to be pointless.
Ok, we get that you have connections and preferential treatment. Is this the norm? Should everyone on this forum just call their "Porsche GM" and avoid paying over MSRP or walking into a dealership? Gee, what sound advice.
What is the point of your post? This thread is about the general difficulty in obtaining an allocation at MSRP? or even one above MSRP; not a tally if who can get one and how..
Yes, I already have my 2019 G63 in my garage. I don't sit and say "ha ha, I don't even walk into MB dealerships, have outside connections, never pay over MSRP, etc" as a response to every post someone makes about the difficulty in obtaining one. You think people love paying over MSRP or dealing with arrogant dealership personnel?
Sheesh
What is the point of your post? This thread is about the general difficulty in obtaining an allocation at MSRP? or even one above MSRP; not a tally if who can get one and how..
Yes, I already have my 2019 G63 in my garage. I don't sit and say "ha ha, I don't even walk into MB dealerships, have outside connections, never pay over MSRP, etc" as a response to every post someone makes about the difficulty in obtaining one. You think people love paying over MSRP or dealing with arrogant dealership personnel?
Sheesh
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Point is you need to work harder. We live in America, land of the opportunities and free market. We also live in a world where the strong eats the weak. Why do you think we enjoy the cheap gas price that we have here in the US and not the other countries? You think that was just pure luck or the fact that we bombed the crap out of certain countries and occupy them with our military bases around the world?
People on these forums complaint about ADM and paying over sticker. It's Economics 101, if there are no excessive demand for the product, there will be no mark up. You want a car that is currently hot in the market? Pay up and enjoy it now or you just wait it out. Especially for a mass-produced car like the G63, give it another 12 months and the market craziness will come down. I find these ADM posts to be pointless.
People on these forums complaint about ADM and paying over sticker. It's Economics 101, if there are no excessive demand for the product, there will be no mark up. You want a car that is currently hot in the market? Pay up and enjoy it now or you just wait it out. Especially for a mass-produced car like the G63, give it another 12 months and the market craziness will come down. I find these ADM posts to be pointless.
Some may argue about ADMs or no ADMs...and that's fine. Some have principles about paying over MSRP, others do not. Obviously this is economic ideology. BUT...how does bragging about calling a Porsche GM et al, have anything to do with anything?? I mean really?? Who the F**CK cares?? What else did you do? Let's hear it all...
Finally, you now ramble on about Economics 101, yet babble earlier that YOU wouldn't pay over MSRP for this vehicle.
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I was replying to another poster's comment that he doesn't see the point of paying ADM and I agreed with him. I made the point of indicating that the G63 is a mass produced car and the ADM will disappear very soon over time.
I didn't pay ADM to order my 2020 G63 and I didn't have to walk into a showroom to do it. How do you think the world works? Do you believe in Santa Claus too?
I didn't pay ADM to order my 2020 G63 and I didn't have to walk into a showroom to do it. How do you think the world works? Do you believe in Santa Claus too?
...AND...no one doubts any of those principles nor are arguing them. Your rant about how YOU are able to call a Porsche GM and obtain a G-wagon in 5 months at MSRP is neither constructive, or quite frankly, of any interest to anyone on this thread. Your using of this thread for pointless..and I stress POINTLESS boasting without anything constructive to add is an eye roll for most and bothersome for many.
Some may argue about ADMs or no ADMs...and that's fine. Some have principles about paying over MSRP, others do not. Obviously this is economic ideology. BUT...how does bragging about calling a Porsche GM et al, have anything to do with anything?? I mean really?? Who the F**CK cares?? What else did you do? Let's hear it all...
Finally, you now ramble on about Economics 101, yet babble earlier that YOU wouldn't pay over MSRP for this vehicle.
Sheesh
Some may argue about ADMs or no ADMs...and that's fine. Some have principles about paying over MSRP, others do not. Obviously this is economic ideology. BUT...how does bragging about calling a Porsche GM et al, have anything to do with anything?? I mean really?? Who the F**CK cares?? What else did you do? Let's hear it all...
Finally, you now ramble on about Economics 101, yet babble earlier that YOU wouldn't pay over MSRP for this vehicle.
Sheesh
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I know someone high up in another brands dealer network and as he told me there is no such thing as having a friend in any car dealership. The less you know the happier you are with the deal.
I was thinking today about how do you insure these trucks when you pay such a high mark up? So the MSRP is say $165 you pay $205 it totaled 1 month later?? I don't think any insurance Co's will pay over MSRP as replacement value. I am not sure how that would play out?
I was thinking today about how do you insure these trucks when you pay such a high mark up? So the MSRP is say $165 you pay $205 it totaled 1 month later?? I don't think any insurance Co's will pay over MSRP as replacement value. I am not sure how that would play out?
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I know someone high up in another brands dealer network and as he told me there is no such thing as having a friend in any car dealership. The less you know the happier you are with the deal.
I was thinking today about how do you insure these trucks when you pay such a high mark up? So the MSRP is say $165 you pay $205 it totaled 1 month later?? I don't think any insurance Co's will pay over MSRP as replacement value. I am not sure how that would play out?
I was thinking today about how do you insure these trucks when you pay such a high mark up? So the MSRP is say $165 you pay $205 it totaled 1 month later?? I don't think any insurance Co's will pay over MSRP as replacement value. I am not sure how that would play out?
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I was replying to another poster's comment that he doesn't see the point of paying ADM and I agreed with him. I made the point of indicating that the G63 is a mass produced car and the ADM will disappear very soon over time.
I didn't pay ADM to order my 2020 G63 and I didn't have to walk into a showroom to do it. How do you think the world works? Do you believe in Santa Claus too?
I didn't pay ADM to order my 2020 G63 and I didn't have to walk into a showroom to do it. How do you think the world works? Do you believe in Santa Claus too?
The point of both of these posts are??
I'm sure your experience with MB/BMW dealers might actually be the same as many that have experienced their arrogance with regards to the G63. Otherwise the Porsche GM wouldn't have needed to get involved now right? Maybe if you had walked into an MB dealer and told them you wanted a G63, you'd be in the same boat as many on this thread....Information..fine...It's the elitism that we can do without.
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Why are you so upset? Are you upset that the world is not fair and the people are not created equal?
Elitism, as you call, in my eyes is called the real world. You may believe in an Utopia where people are treated equally, but that ain’t how the world works.
Why would I walk into a MB/ BMW dealership when I know the game they play? If you have relationships and network, you should leverage it anyway you can. When you got none, you should figure out how to get some. I called my Porsche GM because the Mercedes store is their sister dealership. What is wrong with that? Is that elitism? I don’t think so.
Elitism, as you call, in my eyes is called the real world. You may believe in an Utopia where people are treated equally, but that ain’t how the world works.
Why would I walk into a MB/ BMW dealership when I know the game they play? If you have relationships and network, you should leverage it anyway you can. When you got none, you should figure out how to get some. I called my Porsche GM because the Mercedes store is their sister dealership. What is wrong with that? Is that elitism? I don’t think so.
I'm referencing the single, solitary, pointless post that you ordered your 2020 G63 and you'll have it in 5 months. Followed by another redundant post of similar nature, except exemplifying how you hate Mercedes/BMW dealers and had to call in a favor with your Porsche GM to have him make a deal that you clearly couldn't have gotten on your own; perhaps with or without ADM.
The point of both of these posts are??
I'm sure your experience with MB/BMW dealers might actually be the same as many that have experienced their arrogance with regards to the G63. Otherwise the Porsche GM wouldn't have needed to get involved now right? Maybe if you had walked into an MB dealer and told them you wanted a G63, you'd be in the same boat as many on this thread....Information..fine...It's the elitism that we can do without.
The point of both of these posts are??
I'm sure your experience with MB/BMW dealers might actually be the same as many that have experienced their arrogance with regards to the G63. Otherwise the Porsche GM wouldn't have needed to get involved now right? Maybe if you had walked into an MB dealer and told them you wanted a G63, you'd be in the same boat as many on this thread....Information..fine...It's the elitism that we can do without.
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Why are you so upset? Are you upset that the world is not fair and the people are not created equal?
Elitism, as you call, in my eyes is called the real world. You may believe in an Utopia where people are treated equally, but that ain’t how the world works.
Why would I walk into a MB/ BMW dealership when I know the game they play? If you have relationships and network, you should leverage it anyway you can. When you got none, you should figure out how to get some. I called my Porsche GM because the Mercedes store is their sister dealership. What is wrong with that? Is that elitism? I don’t think so.
Elitism, as you call, in my eyes is called the real world. You may believe in an Utopia where people are treated equally, but that ain’t how the world works.
Why would I walk into a MB/ BMW dealership when I know the game they play? If you have relationships and network, you should leverage it anyway you can. When you got none, you should figure out how to get some. I called my Porsche GM because the Mercedes store is their sister dealership. What is wrong with that? Is that elitism? I don’t think so.
I agree upon leveraging your relationships. I TEXTED my MB dealer sales associate and got the truck at MSRP...How's that?? I didn't even personally speak to him until I called to find out what vessel it was assigned to after it was built. What if I only posted this information on THIS thread. Does anyone here on this PARTICULAR thread really care??
Elitism is going around bragging about your superficial "merits" in a pool of others' difficulties. Your post(s) were just that...and that's my point. You should have simply started a new thread, "How I got my G63...by calling my Porsche GM"...And BTW, see just how many people would find that thread even the least bit interesting....
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Neither the 2020 GLS63 or 2020 GLE63 can even be configured at this time so we likely are looking at 3rd/4th quarter of 2020 release date (might even be a 2021 model year). The ordering guides supplied to dealers have all the information for the 450 and 580 models with no mention of the AMG line.
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