When you click on links to various merchants on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network.
Sharing my G wagon lift / wheel / tire specs here for reference.
2013 G63
1.5" JWO spacer lift in front
2" JWO spring lift in rear (wanted rear to be stiffer for towing and to correct the backwards rake that most G's seem to have which I hated)
Fox shocks
1.5" wheel spacers from JWO
275x65x20 tires (33")
Silly AMG side pipes cut off at the muffler
Jack @JACWAGN did all my suspension work and he's the man to put together exactly what you want based on your preferences.
Including the height gained from the upsized tires, I believe I am at around 2.5-3" total lift. Have not needed to do anything additional such as caster correction, end links, control arms etc. Zero rubbing even with some decent trail flexing. I have ORC t-case skid plate but have not scraped it on anything yet.
Very happy with the ride quality and ground clearance so far. And it tows better too.
I have a 2018 g63 I put a 4-inch lift with jack wagon springs and all other components from euro wise including radius arms and their dual Carden drive shaft. I put the lift on 2 months ago originally with the factory drive shaft the vibration was unbearable. They told me that I will need the dual Carden drive shaft, so I purchased it. once installed the vibration is now only limited to 25-45 miles per hour. I need some help I have been going back and forth with jack and Euro wise and jack has been as helpful as he can. From all my reading the issue is a pinion angle but that goes with the caster so if I adjust the pinion then I will have a caster problem. I was wondering anyone with a 4-inch lift if i could get some measurements of how high your vehicle sits and from where you measure. I am trying to figure out if maybe the springs are too big and I need to lower the vehicle. I am just frustrated at this time as I have spent over 10k into this and have not been able to drive the vehicle. suggestions on how to narrow down where the vibration if coming from or if i am on the rite path would be helpful.
I have a 2018 g63 I put a 4-inch lift with jack wagon springs and all other components from euro wise including radius arms and their dual Carden drive shaft. I put the lift on 2 months ago originally with the factory drive shaft the vibration was unbearable. They told me that I will need the dual Carden drive shaft, so I purchased it. once installed the vibration is now only limited to 25-45 miles per hour. I need some help I have been going back and forth with jack and Euro wise and jack has been as helpful as he can. From all my reading the issue is a pinion angle but that goes with the caster so if I adjust the pinion then I will have a caster problem. I was wondering anyone with a 4-inch lift if i could get some measurements of how high your vehicle sits and from where you measure. I am trying to figure out if maybe the springs are too big and I need to lower the vehicle. I am just frustrated at this time as I have spent over 10k into this and have not been able to drive the vehicle. suggestions on how to narrow down where the vibration if coming from or if i am on the rite path would be helpful.
I am sorry to hear, I can see how this can be frustrating for a project to never end. The G is indeed an expensive vehicle to lift and do it right.
The only person I know with a 4" lift is @Texas E63 though his truck is the G55 platform, it should be similar. He is a regular, so I am sure he will respond soon.
Hey SoCal - shooting you a PM ..... I've got a few lingering things I'm hoping to resolve along theses same lines.... Agreed - the 4" isn't for the faint of heart......
Did you already install caster correction bushings? Even with my 2" lift, my caster was almost zero (stock is 3 degrees), so I imagine with 4" lift, caster reduction is even worse.
I just read thru this and forgot to note for my 63 the optimal offest for the Forgestars was 20x10.5 Et 25 (305 tire width)..... I'm running 18x9 et0 on the 55 ( 325 or 315 tires width)
I have a 2018 g63 I put a 4-inch lift with jack wagon springs and all other components from euro wise including radius arms and their dual Carden drive shaft. I put the lift on 2 months ago originally with the factory drive shaft the vibration was unbearable. They told me that I will need the dual Carden drive shaft, so I purchased it. once installed the vibration is now only limited to 25-45 miles per hour. I need some help I have been going back and forth with jack and Euro wise and jack has been as helpful as he can. From all my reading the issue is a pinion angle but that goes with the caster so if I adjust the pinion then I will have a caster problem. I was wondering anyone with a 4-inch lift if i could get some measurements of how high your vehicle sits and from where you measure. I am trying to figure out if maybe the springs are too big and I need to lower the vehicle. I am just frustrated at this time as I have spent over 10k into this and have not been able to drive the vehicle. suggestions on how to narrow down where the vibration if coming from or if i am on the rite path would be helpful.
If you have adjusted your caster to the minimum safe/tolerable amount, and you have a double cardan driveshaft, but still have driveline vibration then the only real option is to either lower the truck some, or figure out a way to lower/clock the transfer case. I've never looked too closely to see if it is even possible to lower/clock the transfer case, but beware that can sometimes create other unintended consequences (vibrations).
When I was messing around with a bunch of the pre-'19 G's I found the max lift without driveline vibration to be closer to 80mm. I would stack ARB springs with either 20mm or 30mm spring spacers. Sometimes the 30mm was too much and created a little vibration, so I would go back to 20mm. The amount of spring spacer needed was usually dependent on the weight of the truck (ie, more gear, or G63 vs. G65). Also, some trucks/springs sat just a tad different even across the same model (ie, G63 to G63). Either of those set ups should allow for most 35" tire setups unless you have a really aggressive (negative) offset wheel.
Edit: I hopped on Eurowise's site since it had been a few years since I was on there. Looks like they offer up to a 6.5" lift. Honestly, I can't see how they don't end up with a ton of driveline vibration even with their double cardan shaft, but since they offer it I assume they have made it work. I assume you have called them to talk about it? Did they have any suggestions? I've done a half dozen lifts on pre-'19 Gs, but I'm sure they have done a ton more and might have more information to help you out.
Last edited by The Butcher; 05-03-2024 at 08:12 AM.
The Butcher does awesome builds - but agree that the safe play is 50mm of lift..... that said, I'm pushing on...
Mike at Eurowise is very responsive and his team does solid work - and so far has resolved most of my issues. I suspect my middle DS (original at 120k)is part of my current minor vibration challenge so we'll be replacing that when they do the front DS retro -fit with new adapters, and 20mm spring spacers to fit the new 37x13.5's next week...
The Butcher does awesome builds - but agree that the safe play is 50mm of lift..... that said, I'm pushing on...
Mike at Eurowise is very responsive and his team does solid work - and so far has resolved most of my issues. I suspect my middle DS (original at 120k)is part of my current minor vibration challenge so we'll be replacing that when they do the front DS retro -fit with new adapters, and 20mm spring spacers to fit the new 37x13.5's next week...
E
Oh Geez... You're gonna have to post some pics of it with 37s!!!! Hopefully they can get your vibration issue figured out.
It's been a good while since I looked under a pre-'19. Is it a divorced t-case? You mentioned middle DS, so I assume it is.
I just got back from a 2500 mile road trip to Colorado. Car had two major changes compared to previous trip last fall: Jack's caster correction bushings and ORC rear swaybar.
The G drives AMAZING now!!
It is a night and day difference - on center steering stability as well as reduced body roll. It is now actually fun to drive and a great highway GT which I thought I would never say about the G.
Anyone who lifts your G, do not mess around. Call @JACWAGN and he can hook you up with both caster bushings and ORC swaybar. Highly recommend both, pay whatever they are asking lol.
hey guys am update. As far as the caster i dont have an issue there i do have the eurowise caster arms. Issue is still not resolved Mike at euro wise has sent me a proto type double dual Carden drive shaft, unfortunately this did not work it is pushing the transfer case flange into the transfer case. I think the end of the drive shaft is too big so it is making it is not aligning up properly. I wish they would explain all of this when you buy these kits as i specifically asked if there would be a vibration with the 4 inch lift, not only that i had to replace the transfer case bracket as the drive shaft was rubbing. I just sent the all the drive shafts out to a drive line shop and they are all in balance. i feel that i am throwing good money after bad at this point. If i lower this to 80mm can i still run the 35 inch tires i just bought. once again everyone thank you for your help you guys have been great.
I have shared with mike I have been in full communication with Eurowise and Jack Wagon they have been helpful just have not found a solution yet. it is a little frustrating though i bought this g63 in February just for this and i have not been able to drive it since. with the vibration i don't want it to cause any other issues that i will have to fix. my only guess is that i might have to lower the car. I do have a question Euro wise uses jackwagon springs and their spacers to accomplish the 6.5 inch lift on part of the website they say the springs are 5 inch and on another they say it is a 100mm which would be 4 inch does anyone know which one is right i believe that the springs might be to high. i am curious that the 6.5 says it comes with a transmission drop down bracket how would they drop the transmission down. thanks again everyone i just want to get it so i can dive the car.
I have another question if I go with lowering the car to 80mm what springs would you recomend i get a lot of torque steer when i hit the throttle ever since i lifted it. i am trying to maintain a good ride
The G's are all a bit different it seems... what is fine on one rig, creates issues on another similar spec'ed one..... a lot of times it can be things like worn wheel bearing/adjustment or in my case a worn center Driveshaft .... what are your goals for this rig beyond fitting 35's ?
As for the torque steer on both our G63 and the 55, we hadthe Eurocharged E40 ECU/ TCU Tunes and cat-deletes .... as part of that they pulled timing/ full throttle in 1st and 2nd.... that helps with directional steering off the line( along with the wider stand and large footprint) but I can still spin all 4 fine....
My goal is to have a smooth ride so my kids can enjoy it along with the ability to off road it up in big bear and mammoth. So it is 75 on road and 25 off road. I did have the All the drive shafts checked when i put the new transfer case bracket on so I know those are good. I have had the wheel bearings checked as i just did all the breaks on the car. what springs have worked best for you i am thinking i am going to go the 80 mm way. what i am thinking is that the jack wagon springs are 5 inches and not 4 so this is where my problem is. I am thinking i am going to strap the rear and the front of the car down and try to bring it an inch or two lower and hope the vibration goes away. if that happens then i know what i have to do.
Gotcha - I'm running Jack's 4" springs with basically everything else from EW - arms, DS, Bracket exhaust, Konis w/ extensions, sway drop, etc... it measured about 3 3/4" net lift with a bit of a rake likely due to front, rear AFN bumpers and A winch on the nose plus the Gobi...
So i am starting to figure this out. I strapped down the car in the rear 1.25 inches and in the front .5 inches and the vibration goes away. so it is telling me that the angle of the pinions is the problem. like i said i have had my drive shafts completely gone through so it must be a pinion angle issue. I think a lot of guys running jacks' springs are not having problems because they are loading the trucks up with heavy items that is allowing the car to squat, my set up is stock with no extra weight. I also think part of my issue might be a g63 from a g550. I cut a coil off jacks rear springs and the vibration is definitely less but still there. It looks as i will be needing to make the car a 3.5 inch lift any recommendations on springs and blocks. I wish these companies would tell you if their product would work for what you are trying to accomplish. You just seem to be pouring more money into trying to get it right and having to figure it out your self. I cannot understand how eurowise has a 6 inch spring lift that has no vibration. so, any recommendations would be great i just want to use the car
08-27-2023, 08:27 AM
