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2020 G63 Magno Black/2019 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged
cQuartz coating on matte black 2020 G63
Has anyone done it? Should I be worried it will add gloss to the paint? My installer says not to worry it will look great and work great. But wanted to ask you guys here just to see if anyone has any experience. Thank You!
There are quite a few guys on this forum with a lot of experience on this topic. I'm anxious to hear their thoughts and recommendations.
Are you going to put protective film on first? I've talked to a couple of different installers with good reputations, and they both seem to like Xpel Stealth for Black Magno paint. I'm only planning on applying a protective film to the high wear and tear areas, so the film must have the same appearance as the unprotected matt paint. Then, I want to have a ceramic coating applied to the entire truck. And, I don't want any of this to change the appearance of the original Black Magno paint. How could anything possibly go wrong? LOL
There are quite a few guys on this forum with a lot of experience on this topic. I'm anxious to hear their thoughts and recommendations.
Are you going to put protective film on first? I've talked to a couple of different installers with good reputations, and they both seem to like Xpel Stealth for Black Magno paint. I'm only planning on applying a protective film to the high wear and tear areas, so the film must have the same appearance as the unprotected matt paint. Then, I want to have a ceramic coating applied to the entire truck. And, I don't want any of this to change the appearance of the original Black Magno paint. How could anything possibly go wrong? LOL
I plan to have PPF applied to front elements as well. I haven’t asked my installer if coating or PPF comes first but that’s what I’m doing too! I don’t want to PPF the whole truck, that’s for sure.
Hi. Do you have matt paint? I've put protective film and then a ceramic coating on regular paint (not matt) and it looks great. I ordered a G 63 with Night Black Magno paint, and the OP and I are curious if applying protective film that's made for matt paint, e.g., Xpel Stealth, changes the appearance of matt paint? Same with a ceramic coating?
Originally Posted by Hodog16
Typically PPF is placed first and then the coating goes on top.
For my current vehicle I did xpel first on the front part and then opticoat pro plus for the whole vehicle.
2020 G63 Magno Black/2019 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged
Originally Posted by sweet63
There are quite a few guys on this forum with a lot of experience on this topic. I'm anxious to hear their thoughts and recommendations.
Are you going to put protective film on first? I've talked to a couple of different installers with good reputations, and they both seem to like Xpel Stealth for Black Magno paint. I'm only planning on applying a protective film to the high wear and tear areas, so the film must have the same appearance as the unprotected matt paint. Then, I want to have a ceramic coating applied to the entire truck. And, I don't want any of this to change the appearance of the original Black Magno paint. How could anything possibly go wrong? LOL
I think im going to just ceramic coat the car and no PPF.
I looked into this when I was planning to get the Magno paint. Suntek and Expel make a film for Matte paint and OptiCoat Pro can be used as a coating on top of the film.
Not the front end! The front end PPS kit will run you about $1k installed and that is the only thing that will protect it from rock chips.
Opticoat pro installed should be for $1000-$1200 I'm guessing so all in just over $2k for protection of the beautiful paint (helps for resale too). Well worth it and I'm the type when I see the first paint chip, I cringe. The less the better ha! Thanks for the info. The worst part will be waiting for the work to be done!
Opticoat pro installed should be for $1000-$1200 I'm guessing so all in just over $2k for protection of the beautiful paint (helps for resale too). Well worth it and I'm the type when I see the first paint chip, I cringe. The less the better ha! Thanks for the info. The worst part will be waiting for the work to be done!
Agree and to everyone considering this be sure to shop the installer, not the price! Make sure the shop has good reviews, has been in the business for a while, and is approved by the company that make the product.
Put PPF on the front 1/4 of the G63 and ceramic on top of everything. First time doing either. Will 100% do this for all cars going forward. I assume getting this done on matte finish wll be fine but good to get the answer up front.
Put PPF on the front 1/4 of the G63 and ceramic on top of everything. First time doing either. Will 100% do this for all cars going forward. I assume getting this done on matte finish wll be fine but good to get the answer up front.
I had it done in my Porsche, about 5k miles ago, and it has worked perfectly, and is so much easier to keep clean. I used Suntek, since I liked the way it looked better optically speaking on my gloss Miami Blue paint, and OptiCoat Pro coating. It is a little more aerodynamic than the G so I had more PPF done but on the G they have precut kits for the front, which is all one needs if they do not want chips from driving, other than maybe a little behind the rear wheels on the lower back fender.
No experience with matte paint, sorry. It is a good question whether stealth would make the matte paint look different due to the duplication so to speak.
Another consideration is to get the gloss color that you want and get a full stealth PPF treatment to get the all over matte look. Guess it depends on the price difference of matte versus regular paint and the cost of the xpel treatment, but one thing that is nice in this instance is if any surface damage occurs, just replace the xpel on that single panel instead of having to worry about a repaint.
I recently contacted to two different installers (with very good reputations) about PPF on a Night Black Magno G 63. Although they would be happy to wrap the entire truck, both installers said that it wasn't necessary. They said that protecting the high wear and tear areas (i.e., front bumper, headlights, side mirrors, etc.) was probably good enough for most people. They spoke highly of both SunTek and Xpel, and both companies make a PPF for matt paint. I'll discuss this further if/when my G 63 ever shows up
I went to the Xpel website, and I found information on Xpel Stealth PPF for matt paint. They mention "Magno" paint, and they show a partial picture of a new G wagon. This sounds encouraging
No experience with matte paint, sorry. It is a good question whether stealth would make the matte paint look different due to the duplication so to speak.
Another consideration is to get the gloss color that you want and get a full stealth PPF treatment to get the all over matte look. Guess it depends on the price difference of matte versus regular paint and the cost of the xpel treatment, but one thing that is nice in this instance is if any surface damage occurs, just replace the xpel on that single panel instead of having to worry about a repaint.
Agreed. But, it's also my understanding that protective films are not homogenous. The installer wants to apply a small sample of the competing films to my G 63's Night Black Magno paint so we can see if one looks better than the other. If I were covering the entire truck, it might be less of an issue, but since I'm only covering the bumper, mirrors, etc., I want to choose the film that best matches the finish of the factory matt paint.
And a big "thank you" to Bob Z for being a consistent source of good information!
My apologies to the OP for highjacking his thread.
Originally Posted by Bob Z.
As I said, they make the product for Matte paint, just find a good installer.
Agreed. But, it's also my understanding that protective films are not homogenous. The installer wants to apply a small sample of the competing films to my G 63's Night Black Magno paint so we can see if one looks better than the other. If I were covering the entire truck, it might be less of an issue, but since I'm only covering the bumper, mirrors, etc., I want to choose the film that best matches the finish of the factory matt paint.
And a big "thank you" to Bob Z for being a consistent source of good information!
My apologies to the OP for highjacking his thread.
That is a great idea actually and applying a sample will assure you of satisfaction, just as I did on my car. Films for Matte paints are really not that new though since most are on high end vehicles, which have owners that are not reluctant to spend money on products that work well, and increase the fun factor as well! Don't forget about the hood edge and if you still have your brush bar on remove it before the film is installed. Speaking of the brush bar, you can get film applied to that as well but it would be custom wrap.
Put PPF first then ceramic coating on top. Run away from any detailer that claims the other way around since that is a massive logic flaw.
Regular ceramic coatings will not turn your matte paint glossy. It may add a bit of more sheen, but it will still be matte/satin. Every matte PPF that I've seen has slightly more sheen than the actual paint anyways so I think added sheen is perfectly fine.
I had Dr Beasleys Matte Paint Coating Pro Kit applied in April’19 on my magno 2019 G63- used advance coat maintenance couple times after. Very happy with it, i will only use their line of cleaning products too. Worth a look.
I had Dr Beasleys Matte Paint Coating Pro Kit applied in April’19 on my magno 2019 G63- used advance coat maintenance couple times after. Very happy with it, i will only use their line of cleaning products too. Worth a look.
A lot of Porsche people, and other for that matter, use Dr Beasley's items (https://www.drbeasleys.com/matte-pai...scription.html) and a search of this forum on "matte paint" or "magno" will reveal useful information on the care of it.
Regarding the sheen difference, my night black magno G63 has a near full car XPEL stealth PPF. However, some panels are only partially covered and thus have visible seams. It is at these seams where I can tell that the XPEL has slightly more sheen than the exposed paint. It is very slight. When I compare two separate panels, one covered and one exposed, I cannot visibly spot a sheen difference. It is only when there is a disconnect on a single panel that it becomes visible.
In other words, I don't think anyone is going to be disappointed with a satin ppf's sheen.
This is exactly what I was hoping to hear Did you say earlier that you also applied a ceramic coating to your entire truck? Which product did you use? Did the ceramic coating make any noticeable change to the sheen?
Originally Posted by obbob
Regarding the sheen difference, my night black magno G63 has a near full car XPEL stealth PPF. However, some panels are only partially covered and thus have visible seams. It is at these seams where I can tell that the XPEL has slightly more sheen than the exposed paint. It is very slight. When I compare two separate panels, one covered and one exposed, I cannot visibly spot a sheen difference. It is only when there is a disconnect on a single panel that it becomes visible.
In other words, I don't think anyone is going to be disappointed with a satin ppf's sheen.
Regarding the sheen difference, my night black magno G63 has a near full car XPEL stealth PPF. However, some panels are only partially covered and thus have visible seams. It is at these seams where I can tell that the XPEL has slightly more sheen than the exposed paint. It is very slight. When I compare two separate panels, one covered and one exposed, I cannot visibly spot a sheen difference. It is only when there is a disconnect on a single panel that it becomes visible.
In other words, I don't think anyone is going to be disappointed with a satin ppf's sheen.
Can you post a pic of a panel with a seam? And to answer the other question a ceramic coating if applied to the entire vehicle will not be noticeable since it is clear.
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