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Old Nov 14, 2020 | 11:17 PM
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Does anyone have a G63 w trail package or any experience w it?
Anyone knows tire size?
Since it is 20", will it be narrower than 21"?
Will the car be at same height of a one w 21" ?

the dealer advised me against it, harder ride due to special tire.
Trail suspension historically has been a problem w other brands on long term.
I love the look of the wheels since the 21" are no longer available in silver and black combo.
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Old Nov 15, 2020 | 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by medtner
Does anyone have a G63 w trail package or any experience w it?
Anyone knows tire size?
Since it is 20", will it be narrower than 21"?
Will the car be at same height of a one w 21" ?

the dealer advised me against it, harder ride due to special tire.
Trail suspension historically has been a problem w other brands on long term.
I love the look of the wheels since the 21" are no longer available in silver and black combo.

There are a few on here that have it. They bought it for the exact opposite reason the dealer told you. It is a softer ride as the tire is thicker and absorbs the terrain.

I am sure there are other reasons they bought it too....but none of them side it rides worse.
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Old Nov 15, 2020 | 03:22 AM
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I have the trail package but opted for the 21". Supposed to Ride softer on road. But have not driven a non-trail package to give a definitive answer.

I spec'ed trail package as mercedes sold it as more comfortable on longer gravel or road rides.
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Old Nov 15, 2020 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by medtner
Does anyone have a G63 w trail package or any experience w it?
Anyone knows tire size?
Since it is 20", will it be narrower than 21"?
Will the car be at same height of a one w 21" ?

the dealer advised me against it, harder ride due to special tire.
Trail suspension historically has been a problem w other brands on long term.
I love the look of the wheels since the 21" are no longer available in silver and black combo.
Check out the Order Guide:
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Old Nov 15, 2020 | 08:09 PM
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i have trail package on my 2020 G63 and what your dealer said is the opposite... softer ride in comfort mode. not sure what they mean by “special tires”... they are all season on 20’s. i absolutely love trail package and wouldnt spec one without it. whats cool is you really feel the difference from Comfort mode to sport +... big difference. the mud flaps are kind of cool as well. for NJ winter, its a good package to have.

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Old Nov 15, 2020 | 08:15 PM
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Thank you all.
I had a 2019 w 21' two tones which came with the night package. Unfortunately, it s no longer available. I love the wheel look on trail package but worried that it might look small for the car.
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Old Nov 15, 2020 | 08:17 PM
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Thank you all.
I had a 2019 w 21' two tones which came with the night package. Unfortunately, it s no longer available. I love the wheel look on trail package but worried that it might look small for the car.

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Old Nov 15, 2020 | 09:09 PM
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I liked those 21" also and would have spec'd them if they were still available.

Kinda defeats the purpose of the trail package to swap out the wheel and tire combo, but you can easily order or find those 21 two-tones still and put them on a new G63.
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Old Dec 18, 2020 | 01:53 AM
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What do you think these tires are on the Trail Package image from one of your earlier posts?
You don’t get the trial package option in the U.K. and I’m looking at getting some winter rims and tires, I was just going to duplicate what they offer in the trail package.

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Old Dec 18, 2020 | 07:43 AM
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Hi Bob,

What do you think these tires are on the Trail Package image from one of your earlier posts?
You don’t get the trial package option in the U.K. and I’m looking at getting some winter rims and tires, I was just going to duplicate what they offer in the trail package.

thanks

i have them on my 2020 G63. love them. why dont you order them from a US dealer and have them shipped to the UK if you want them?

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Old Dec 18, 2020 | 08:28 AM
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i have them on my 2020 G63. love them. why dont you order them from a US dealer and have them shipped to the UK if you want them?
Excellent idea, I’ve found the wheels but what are those tyres?
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Old Dec 18, 2020 | 08:45 AM
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Excellent idea, I’ve found the wheels but what are those tyres?
Nitto Ridge Grapplers 285/50 R20 tires, and here are a set for sale:

https://mbworld.org/forums/g-class-w...els-tires.html
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Old Dec 18, 2020 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Bob Z.
Nitto Ridge Grapplers 285/50 R20 tires, and here are a set for sale:

https://mbworld.org/forums/g-class-w...els-tires.html
ls the total diameter ( tire and rim) of the 20" trail package wheel smaller than the 21"?
Te 20 " seems to have thicker tire.
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Old Dec 18, 2020 | 05:08 PM
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I'm pretty sure they are Pirelli Scorpion All Terrain Plus in 275/50R20. The overall diameter of the 21" wheels with stock 285/45R21 tires is 31.1" and the 20" wheels with 275/50R20 tires is 30.8". The 20" tire is also 0.4" narrower than the 21" tire.

I have a set of 20" wheels coming in that I'm going to put 275/55R20 BFG K02s on. It's a slightly larger overall diameter than my stock 22s at 31.9" and doesn't have any issues with rubbing. The K02s have a slightly more aggressive look than the Pirelli all terrains and its definitely a better tire if you plan to do any sort of off roading.

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I'm pretty sure they are Pirelli Scorpion All Terrain Plus in 275/50R20. The overall diameter of the 21" wheels with stock 285/45R21 tires is 31.1" and the 20" wheels with 275/50R20 tires is 30.8". The 20" tire is also 0.4" narrower than the 21" tire.
The seller here stated what they were in the thread I linked to...
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Old Dec 18, 2020 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Z.
The seller here stated what they were in the thread I linked to...
It sounds like that seller didn't purchase the trail package with the car and bought the trail package wheels from a 3rd party with the Nittos. The stock tire if you order the trail package on the car with the 20" trail package wheel is the Pirelli ATR 275/50R20.



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My bad...they look similar though, and since they use Pirellis on other wheels it would make sense.
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My bad...they look similar though, and since they use Pirellis on other wheels it would make sense.
Any view on what would be better:
Pirelli ATR 275/50R20
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Nitto Ridge Grapplers 285/50 R20

They need to be ok on the road, if and when off road it’s muddy fields!
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Old Dec 21, 2020 | 07:12 AM
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I'm pretty sure they are Pirelli Scorpion All Terrain Plus in 275/50R20. The overall diameter of the 21" wheels with stock 285/45R21 tires is 31.1" and the 20" wheels with 275/50R20 tires is 30.8". The 20" tire is also 0.4" narrower than the 21" tire.

I have a set of 20" wheels coming in that I'm going to put 275/55R20 BFG K02s on. It's a slightly larger overall diameter than my stock 22s at 31.9" and doesn't have any issues with rubbing. The K02s have a slightly more aggressive look than the Pirelli all terrains and its definitely a better tire if you plan to do any sort of off roading.
So these are the standard wheels on the Trial Package?

Pirelli Scorpion Winter ATR 275/50 R20 113V

I’m tempted on the Nitto Ridge Grapplers, they look more aggressive (Do you know if they still good on the road, I’m only a weekend off-roader and at the most it’s muddy fields). Do you know if the Nitto’s rub, that’s why I’m leaning towards the standard OEM choice tyres to avoid any issues..

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Old Dec 21, 2020 | 07:57 AM
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Still debating

I think that large 21" wheels look better on the car but I love the design of the 20" trail wheels. Never seen personally yet to decide
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Originally Posted by medtner
I think that large 21" wheels look better on the car but I love the design of the 20" trail wheels. Never seen personally yet to decide
i have trail package on my g63 and you will love them... tires are Pirelli scorpions. drive mode better and you big difference between comfort and sport +
mud flaps are kind of cool
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The trail package is as good as you expect. Just make sure when you order the "Trail Package" to DE SELECT Pirelli scorpions tyres so once they build it the will install the all season tyres instead and i am sure you will like it more.
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Trail package g63 2021

Originally Posted by medtner
Does anyone have a G63 w trail package or any experience w it?
Anyone knows tire size?
Since it is 20", will it be narrower than 21"?
Will the car be at same height of a one w 21" ?

the dealer advised me against it, harder ride due to special tire.
Trail suspension historically has been a problem w other brands on long term.
I love the look of the wheels since the 21" are no longer available in silver and black combo.

The trail package is as good as you expect. Just make sure when you order the "Trail Package" to DE SELECT Pirelli scorpions tyres so once they build it the will install the all season tyres instead and i am sure you will like it more.
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Old Dec 21, 2020 | 11:00 AM
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Are they also prelli?

[QUOTE=amracer;8229601]The trail package is as good as you expect. Just make sure when you order the "Trail Package" to DE SELECT Pirelli scorpions tyres so once they build it the will install the all season tyres instead and i am sure you will like it more.[/QUOTE
pirelli too? All wather?
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So these are the standard wheels on the Trial Package?

Pirelli Scorpion Winter ATR 275/50 R20 113V

I’m tempted on the Nitto Ridge Grapplers, they look more aggressive (Do you know if they still good on the road, I’m only a weekend off-roader and at the most it’s muddy fields). Do you know if the Nitto’s rub, that’s why I’m leaning towards the standard OEM choice tyres to avoid any issues..
The Pirelli Scorpion ATR 275/50R20 are standard with the trail package unless you deselect the all terrain tire option. I think the Pirelli All Terrain Plus is the new version of the ATR, but I'm not sure if mercedes is putting them on the trail package yet. I don't know a lot about the Nitto Ridge Grapplers, but from what I've read they should be a lot better than the Pirellis off road. They may be noisier and a little stiffer on road though. I believe you can get the Nittos in a 285/50R20 size which is 31.2" overall diameter so they won't rub.

https://tiresize.com/wheel-offset-calculator/ this website is really helpful in figuring out the size of a tire.
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