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21 G63 who’s selling at MSRP?

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Old 02-02-2022, 02:40 PM
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The lowest I’ve got is a 50k allocation and then the grey area offers are this ————- meaning they will charge you whatever the F they want as soon as it comes in. This should be illegal
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Wow...Do you have history with this dealership? If so they are trash and you should move on. Make sure to post this on their google reviews too.
Mine is a $2500 CAD deposit that is fully refundable with MSRP guaranteed but you need to have extensive history to place an order.
If these American dealers are pulling this stuff with their loyal customers then it's extremely short sighted.... because when this bubble bursts (and it definitely will), those customers will be going elsewhere.
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Wow...Do you have history with this dealership? If so they are trash and you should move on. Make sure to post this on their google reviews too.
Mine is a $2500 CAD deposit that is fully refundable with MSRP guaranteed but you need to have extensive history to place an order.
If these American dealers are pulling this stuff with their loyal customers then it's extremely short sighted.... because when this bubble bursts (and it definitely will), those customers will be going elsewhere.


The dealer I work with usually was out for eye surgery so I started looking at other dealerships . He finally got back to me today and said nothing about a dealer bump up so I put it in for myself today with 1k deposit. He said there’s 8 people ahead of me from previous allocations from last year . I’ll wait I’m just not paying over . And I’ve since contacted 50 Mercedes dealerships in the country and ALL OF THEM are asking 50-150k over MSRP. So unless you know someone which is sad good luck/ and this honestly turns me off and I’ll certainly be looking for my next brand because Mercedes does not care about their customers . General Motors released a statement to their dealers saying if any of the dealers continue to rape their customers they will start only giving allocations to the dealers that are following the rules waiting for Mercedes to come to the rescue and help MBUSA .
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The dealer I work with usually was out for eye surgery so I started looking at other dealerships . He finally got back to me today and said nothing about a dealer bump up so I put it in for myself today with 1k deposit. He said there’s 8 people ahead of me from previous allocations from last year . I’ll wait I’m just not paying over . And I’ve since contacted 50 Mercedes dealerships in the country and ALL OF THEM are asking 50-150k over MSRP. So unless you know someone which is sad good luck/ and this honestly turns me off and I’ll certainly be looking for my next brand because Mercedes does not care about their customers . General Motors released a statement to their dealers saying if any of the dealers continue to rape their customers they will start only giving allocations to the dealers that are following the rules waiting for Mercedes to come to the rescue and help MBUSA .
Ford did the same with the F150 lightning. We'll see how that plays out. Nothing lasts forever.
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The lowest I’ve got is a 50k allocation and then the grey area offers are this ————- meaning they will charge you whatever the F they want as soon as it comes in. This should be illegal

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Wow, that's a hell of a deposit for something you don't know when it will arrive. At least my dealership has never kept a deposit for goods not rendered.
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Originally Posted by CourtneyLove
The lowest I’ve got is a 50k allocation and then the grey area offers are this ————- meaning they will charge you whatever the F they want as soon as it comes in. This should be illegal

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Who in their right mind would place a $10k non-refundable deposit down when the sale price hasn't been established?? They could get the car in, tell you they want $200k over sticker knowing you'll walk away, pocket your $10k non-refundable deposit, and then turn right back around and sell to the next highest bidder. Unreal.
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Old 02-03-2022, 11:25 AM
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Who in their right mind would place a $10k non-refundable deposit down when the sale price hasn't been established?? They could get the car in, tell you they want $200k over sticker knowing you'll walk away, pocket your $10k non-refundable deposit, and then turn right back around and sell to the next highest bidder. Unreal.

This has to meet the legal definition of unconscionable and should render the contract unenforceable.
No court would accept that a buyer is obligated to purchase a product at an undetermined price and yet allow that the deposit on the purchase to remain non refundable.

*Im not a lawyer but I did stay at a holiday inn express
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Old 02-07-2022, 11:37 AM
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does anyone know what dealership is selling at or close to MSRP. My dealer local to me tried telling me people are selling for over $150,000 but i can do $100,000 which is still a ridiculous price.
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Originally Posted by CourtneyLove
The dealer I work with usually was out for eye surgery so I started looking at other dealerships . He finally got back to me today and said nothing about a dealer bump up so I put it in for myself today with 1k deposit. He said there’s 8 people ahead of me from previous allocations from last year . I’ll wait I’m just not paying over . And I’ve since contacted 50 Mercedes dealerships in the country and ALL OF THEM are asking 50-150k over MSRP. So unless you know someone which is sad good luck/ and this honestly turns me off and I’ll certainly be looking for my next brand because Mercedes does not care about their customers . General Motors released a statement to their dealers saying if any of the dealers continue to rape their customers they will start only giving allocations to the dealers that are following the rules waiting for Mercedes to come to the rescue and help MBUSA .
you trying to get another spot for me lol. actually being very serious.
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My dealer is doing a G63 for me at MSRP but I bought a G550 from them last year and I’m going to trade it in.

Out of curiosity called 2 other dealerships in my area. One said 3 year wait but MSRP, other said 100k ADM and couldn’t tell me what the wait is unless I was ready to commit to that price.

Seems ludicrous to demand 100k over MSRP for an allocation that could be 2-3 years out. Who knows what the market will command then but statistically unlikely to be 100k over that far into the future.
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does anyone know what dealership is selling at or close to MSRP. My dealer local to me tried telling me people are selling for over $150,000 but i can do $100,000 which is still a ridiculous price.
The lowest I have heard is $60k over and that was for repeat customers. A few are around $75k over and that is on the "low" end of the spectrum.

Buyers seem to have this idea that with production continuing that these cars are going to return to normal but it just won't be the case. Production is going to be extremely limited and even in normal times, a G63 at MSRP wasn't a guarantee.
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Heard MB is now taking orders. Dealer near me asked me to come over to put in an order . Hopefully things get back to normal in future
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So far every dealer I’ve called in the tri state area are asking minimum 100k over. Crazy…
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Orders are open if someone wants to order and wait a year or two.
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I understand supply and demand. If I want one now then pay whats it is worth in todays market.
I have it in writing from my dealer [size=13px]advising[/size] me that if I was really patient and custom order I can have it at MSRP. After 2 plus years of waiting I'm in position one for their next order but MB [size=13px]announced[/size] production had stop but I kept the deposit with them. Now production has [size=13px]starting[/size] up again the dealership is trying desperately to give my deposit back, telling me that I will have to pay [size=13px]market[/size] price when the car arrives. I refuse and will be seeking legal advice on Monday. Here my build that was submitted over 2 years ago. Any advice would be appreciated.


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I understand supply and demand. If I want one now then pay whats it is worth in todays market.
I have it in writing from my dealer [size=13px]advising[/size] me that if I was really patient and custom order I can have it at MSRP. After 2 plus years of waiting I'm in position one for their next order but MB [size=13px]announced[/size] production had stop but I kept the deposit with them. Now production has [size=13px]starting[/size] up again the dealership is trying desperately to give my deposit back, telling me that I will have to pay [size=13px]market[/size] price when the car arrives. I refuse and will be seeking legal advice on Monday. Here my build that was submitted over 2 years ago. Any advice would be appreciated.
Sorry dude that it’s happening to you. You can try to get legal advice but this happened to pretty much everyone who waited and had G63 on order. No one I’m aware of who got legal advice won their case. Unfortunately the market changed and except for rare dealer loyalties you will not be successful. Given that it’s a “suggested” retail price the dealership can do whatever they want. There will always be buyers for more than the “suggested” price for that truck. You can either take it, negotiate a lower market price, or move to another vehicle. It’s unfortunately not illegal to do a market adjustment, it’s just wrong.
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This must be happening with all orders now? I used to rave about my (former) dealer, who never charged ADM for orders. Ordered my 2020 for list. 2021 order was promised at list. Unfortunately, as soon at my 2021 arrived they informed me that I must cough up $100,000 over sticker or they won’t sell it to me. It was a battle of nasty threats but I won and took delivery at MSRP.
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So far every dealer I’ve called in the tri state area are asking minimum 100k over. Crazy…
Yet people are calling for a dump in prices of 21 models because a FEW order spots are opening up
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Yet people are calling for a dump in prices of 21 models because a FEW order spots are opening up

Some people assumed all the dealers that were selling 2021s for 100k over would suddenly stop to sell the new ones at MSRP?

Since allocations on the G are limited anyway, this new business model makes perfect sense from a dealer perspective. Sell 10-20 trucks at a 50-100k ADM each or sell the same 10-20 at MSRP. Imagine you own the dealership, what would you really do? It’s not like they need to find hundreds of buyers a year for the G wagon.
I’ve said it before, if MBUSA actually cared they would ban ADMs, clearly they condone this behavior since it drives up the exclusivity of the brand.
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Some people assumed all the dealers that were selling 2021s for 100k over would suddenly stop to sell the new ones at MSRP?

Since allocations on the G are limited anyway, this new business model makes perfect sense from a dealer perspective. Sell 10-20 trucks at a 50-100k ADM each or sell the same 10-20 at MSRP. Imagine you own the dealership, what would you really do? It’s not like they need to find hundreds of buyers a year for the G wagon.
I’ve said it before, if MBUSA actually cared they would ban ADMs, clearly they condone this behavior since it drives up the exclusivity of the brand.
I agree. I only see this going in one of two ways: either ADMs continue in some fashion, or MB raises the price of the G considerably to achieve a similar effect.
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There is only X amount of customers willing to pay X amount over MSRP. IT will not go on forever people.
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My dealer has a loaded 63 for 100k over MSRP. New orders have no pricing but are open

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I guess mercedes doesn't care..sheesh! their response..
hope more and more dealers get called out like this ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0PhSk5uzOI


https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/attorney-bloomfield-hills-mercedes-benz-dealer-wanted-extra-120k-above-sticker
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Interesting stats on G wagon sales. 2019 saw a big jump in sales https://carfigures.com/us-market-bra...s-benz/g-class


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