GrnLantern

Thanks for the reply. It does, partially.

All of this makes sense in terms of why it was disrupted. And the fact that it takes tie and money to restart a production line also makes sense.

What doesn't make sense is why the gap hasn't been filled after this much time.

Also, is there even anyone (from the media or elsewhere) trying to keep up on the progress here? It's practically impossible to get any updates. Seems to be a huge world impacting issue that people should be staying on top of, but they aren't.

Hodog16

I read another issue is when the economy tanked last March, automakers scaled back their chip orders, thinking cars would sell slowly, whereas electronic companies filled the gap. Once the automakers realized things were rebounding they were behind the game.

With that said this move points to an emissions issue. Chip issue would merely result in delays.

medtner

The 2022 specification order guid was recently published and shared here in the blog in a different post. Then dealers got notified about this. Many sales staff do not even know this yet.
My guess is that the production will turn into hybrid and electric in the future.
Will be hard to understand how MB will remain competitive against BMW and Porsche.

W205C43PFL

No problem and glad the information was at least somewhat useful.
Just hang on tight, this will be over very soon and everything is back to normal hopefully by the beginning of next year.
As for the gap, to be honest I don't think the demand died down yet even computers and some phone manufacturers are not getting their chips on time, so until they have their chips automakers won't get theirs quite yet.

W205C43PFL

Yes much more likely it is an emission issue opposed to a chip issue especially if competitors haven't suspended production of MY22 models yet (at least I am not aware of yet)

W205C43PFL

Hmmm I see so they are getting you a 2023 model year instead then?

streborx

Canada and the U.S. harmonize closely on auto standards - safety, fuel economy, emissions - so my guess is what's bad for us is bad for them.

streborx

It's also the way semi foundaries schedule production. A year's volume of a particular IC sometimes gets made only once or twice a year. Lose your place in line and go to the back of the line. It's much like ordering a G.

W205C43PFL

At least Canada gets ILS+ (Adaptive High beam Assist +) although we legalized it since 2018, only till 2021 did they start including it. Perhaps USA may get the same treatment sooner rather than later.

GrnLantern

Also, what are MB dealers going to even sell next year? If all V8 models (AMG and non-AMG) are discontinued for the full MY2022, then they're left only with lower margin models.

I have to believe some MB dealers will go under or get acquired as a result.

Harsh.

cryptopreneur

Hey Guys,

New member here!

Couple questions - I'm in Canada and I'm actively looking to get a 2020/2021 G63. Current prices here for a 2021 is around $299k CAD (brand new) from private dealers.

How do you think this news is going to affect prices heading into 2022? Good time to buy now? Lease? I'm getting quoted for a 2 year lease with a $200k CAD residual.

Also, can we still place orders now? Or is absolutely no G63s being produced next year? Does this only affect orders placed in 2022? Can someone help me understand please as it's quite vague.

streborx

Expect dealers to push wiper blades and tires at your next oil change (lol). MBAG will need to write them all compensation checks, unless Sprinters become the next must-have ride.

streborx

IMO, leasing is always a bad deal. Best source of ordering info is your dealer. My understanding is that if you don't get an allocation build that rolls out the factory door before midnight Dec 31, you are SOL until MBAG says otherwise.

cryptopreneur

Thanks man.

I'll speak to my rep tomorrow.

My only issue is, I've been told builds take 12 - 24 months... so how would it be possible for me to get a build in now for delivery by December? Are 3-4 month builds possible?

Hodog16

4 month builds are as short as it gets. 2 months from allocation to build and 2 months from build to delivery.

Any additional time beyond that is waiting in line for an allocation. In other words to take delivery in December you have to be given an allocation now. A 12 month build just means they expect your allocation to come up in 8 months.

I’m assuming they are building through end of December which means G’s will deliver through February 2022?

To get a build now you either gotta know somebody really well, be willing to pay a crapload of money, or get a time machine.

cryptopreneur

I do know someone at my local Mercedes dealership. Bought two cars with him. Most recent being a 21’ GLE 53. He also speaks the same language as me so he’s like a brother. I’ll speak with him tomorrow and hopefully he can pull something off for me.

streborx

I'm not a gambler, but I'll take the time machine as the best bet.

streborx

This puts our political leaders in a real bind - roll back the SAFE emissions and fuel economy standards or switch their new limos over from GLSs to Maybach S580s. Hmmm.....

GrnLantern

The whole thing has become a joke.

Izzone

I feel like 2021 is 1973...the pinnacle of dropping irresponsible horsepower into vehicles

And by 1974-75 legislation ended and era

Azzurri

Don't want to get too Political here, but it doesn't surprise me with the current administration in office.

streborx

The dealerships set to lose $30K - $50K ADMs on 5 - 10 units per month are desperately searching for the humor in all this (lol).

places

2022's are done. Leasing AMG's in general always add an expensive premium. In the case of the G, buying always the way to go. Values likely to climb more now.

places

Just the beginning....

monzag63

This is quite amusing. I put deposit down for my allocation of the 4x4 and now it looks like that probably will not be happening. Going to be an interesting 12-18 months