MB suspending sales of 2022 AMG V8 models
#101
I don't think we have to worry that MB will make the G73 or whatever it will be called less powerful or desirable than the current G63! If anything, it will likely be more fuel efficient, powerful and agile and will be desired even more than the current model. And the moment it is announced everyone will be lining up to get the latest and greatest earth friendly G-Wagen. After all, that is the essence of advancement and progress! I would bet the changes required to the assembly line in Graz will take a few months and not something they can do during the traditional workers summer holiday hence the need to shutdown the entire production line for a few months.
Last edited by haa; 08-19-2021 at 02:29 PM.
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Jagdpanzer (08-30-2021)
#102
Can't speak for others but it matters a lot to me! Im making the point of having this be my last burly engine before I make the switch to EV or hybrid wayyyyy down the line. It would be a deal breaker as Im only going through with my order if its a pure ICE G63 like the 21's.
My hope is that the next G is so desireable that current prices on low mileage used G63s come back to earth.
#103
Member
And will be back.
it is affecting labor and profits
https://europe.autonews.com/automake...chip-shortages
it is affecting labor and profits
https://europe.autonews.com/automake...chip-shortages
#104
Time will tell
In world news today, Toyota has to cut down 2022 production by 40%, its stocks dropped little, news mentioned MB and VW as well. I think that this s a global problem.
Few years ago, MB wanted to kill the G, the GLS was supposed to be the replacement but the huge demand from USA, the Middle East, China, and Russia kept it alive and then, redesigned.
I think that no one really knows, at dealers level, at MBUSA, not sure even at MB leadership, when the G will come back. I hope it will.
Few years ago, MB wanted to kill the G, the GLS was supposed to be the replacement but the huge demand from USA, the Middle East, China, and Russia kept it alive and then, redesigned.
I think that no one really knows, at dealers level, at MBUSA, not sure even at MB leadership, when the G will come back. I hope it will.
#105
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In world news today, Toyota has to cut down 2022 production by 40%, its stocks dropped little, news mentioned MB and VW as well. I think that this s a global problem.
Few years ago, MB wanted to kill the G, the GLS was supposed to be the replacement but the huge demand from USA, the Middle East, China, and Russia kept it alive and then, redesigned.
I think that no one really knows, at dealers level, at MBUSA, not sure even at MB leadership, when the G will come back. I hope it will.
Few years ago, MB wanted to kill the G, the GLS was supposed to be the replacement but the huge demand from USA, the Middle East, China, and Russia kept it alive and then, redesigned.
I think that no one really knows, at dealers level, at MBUSA, not sure even at MB leadership, when the G will come back. I hope it will.
#106
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Guys, quick question.
I found a brand new G63 with all the options I want except for the tires + rims... it has the 21" rims which I don't like. I need/want the 22" rims.
Would it cost me a fortune to switch it out after I buy the car? Would it be worthwhile at all?
I found a brand new G63 with all the options I want except for the tires + rims... it has the 21" rims which I don't like. I need/want the 22" rims.
Would it cost me a fortune to switch it out after I buy the car? Would it be worthwhile at all?
#107
Guys, quick question.
I found a brand new G63 with all the options I want except for the tires + rims... it has the 21" rims which I don't like. I need/want the 22" rims.
Would it cost me a fortune to switch it out after I buy the car? Would it be worthwhile at all?
I found a brand new G63 with all the options I want except for the tires + rims... it has the 21" rims which I don't like. I need/want the 22" rims.
Would it cost me a fortune to switch it out after I buy the car? Would it be worthwhile at all?
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cryptopreneur (08-19-2021)
#108
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Lol I think my post made me look like an idiot.
I was really wondering if it would be worth it! Any ideas on costs assuming I go with the Mercedes 22"?
The reason I ask is because they're asking the same price as a 2020 with 22" rims... just wondering if it's worth the hassle.
I was really wondering if it would be worth it! Any ideas on costs assuming I go with the Mercedes 22"?
The reason I ask is because they're asking the same price as a 2020 with 22" rims... just wondering if it's worth the hassle.
Last edited by cryptopreneur; 08-19-2021 at 09:10 PM.
#109
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Guys, quick question.
I found a brand new G63 with all the options I want except for the tires + rims... it has the 21" rims which I don't like. I need/want the 22" rims.
Would it cost me a fortune to switch it out after I buy the car? Would it be worthwhile at all?
I found a brand new G63 with all the options I want except for the tires + rims... it has the 21" rims which I don't like. I need/want the 22" rims.
Would it cost me a fortune to switch it out after I buy the car? Would it be worthwhile at all?
I would probably make the 21 inch wheels my winter set. I have 22 inch wheels and have to switch to winter tires in the winter.
Last edited by Craig B; 08-19-2021 at 09:16 PM.
#110
Lol I think my post made me look like an idiot.
I was really wondering if it would be worth it! Any ideas on costs assuming I go with the Mercedes 22"?
The reason I ask is because they're asking the same price as a 2020 with 22" rims... just wondering if it's worth the hassle.
I was really wondering if it would be worth it! Any ideas on costs assuming I go with the Mercedes 22"?
The reason I ask is because they're asking the same price as a 2020 with 22" rims... just wondering if it's worth the hassle.
#111
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Agreed. The reality is that many (if not, most) people buying these things don't really care that much about what is powering it. They are buying Gwagons for the looks and the fact its a status symbol. As long as they keep the same body, keep it relatively exclusive, and market the change as an upgrade, they will find success with whatever powerplant they stick inside of it.
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Jagdpanzer (09-23-2021)
#112
If Ferrari can make a V6 hybrid go 0-60 in less than 2.9 then I wouldn't be concerned about performance in a V6 hybrid G if that's what they end up with.
#113
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It outsells it because it’s the best (most expensive) G-Class. I assume most buyers in this range think if they’re spending $140k, why not $160k? Price difference between the two is much narrower than S560 vs S63, for instance.
The new G67, or whatever it will be called, will undoubtedly be quicker and more agile than the G63. That’s all most people need to hear. Any G-Class will be a big hit, everyone will eventually get used to the new model.
The new G67, or whatever it will be called, will undoubtedly be quicker and more agile than the G63. That’s all most people need to hear. Any G-Class will be a big hit, everyone will eventually get used to the new model.
#115
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To answer the above question, it would probably be around $10k or so to buy a new OEM 22" set with tires. Also need to buy center caps and a wrench. I previously toyed with getting Edition 1 rims from alloywheelsdirect but decided to stick with what I have.
My guess is you can sell the 21's as take-offs easily for $5k or more.
For the same price I'd rather have a new G63 with 21's and swap the tires/rims out then get a used 2020 that has 22's already.
My guess is you can sell the 21's as take-offs easily for $5k or more.
For the same price I'd rather have a new G63 with 21's and swap the tires/rims out then get a used 2020 that has 22's already.
#116
I also agree with what others have said, that most people will buy whatever the next G they launch, part of the status people seek is having the newest, greatest, most expensive, etc. It's silly but that's the reality.
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haa (08-20-2021)
#117
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In most parts of the country and for most buyers of the 63, they're choosing it for the status and the fact that it's the pricier "special" or "AMG" version. As fanatical members on this forum, we are not representative of the majority of G customers in the US unfortunately.
I also agree with what others have said, that most people will buy whatever the next G they launch, part of the status people seek is having the newest, greatest, most expensive, etc. It's silly but that's the reality.
I also agree with what others have said, that most people will buy whatever the next G they launch, part of the status people seek is having the newest, greatest, most expensive, etc. It's silly but that's the reality.
and price difference isnt that much either. my draw was the power and engine and speed. i think also why it outsells the 550 is residual values. No sure its as simple as the AMG badge and status is why it sells…
and if they are making an electric version in 2024, will the gas version even come out for ‘23 or complete hiatus? or do we think gas version will be produced inline with electric with an eventual exit out of gas by the end of the decade? or else this would seem as a very hard/harsh transition and it could spook buyers!
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#119
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to me, the rest of the country cant really tell the difference between a 550 and G63… they look the same and imho, for the average person, they both represent the same status symbol.
and price difference isnt that much either. my draw was the power and engine and speed. i think also why it outsells the 550 is residual values. No sure its as simple as the AMG badge and status is why it sells…
and if they are making an electric version in 2024, will the gas version even come out for ‘23 or complete hiatus? or do we think gas version will be produced inline with electric with an eventual exit out of gas by the end of the decade? or else this would seem as a very hard/harsh transition and it could spook buyers!
and price difference isnt that much either. my draw was the power and engine and speed. i think also why it outsells the 550 is residual values. No sure its as simple as the AMG badge and status is why it sells…
and if they are making an electric version in 2024, will the gas version even come out for ‘23 or complete hiatus? or do we think gas version will be produced inline with electric with an eventual exit out of gas by the end of the decade? or else this would seem as a very hard/harsh transition and it could spook buyers!
Migration to hybrid and EV is not a trivial venture for manufacturers. Just retraining service techs at 400 U.S. dealerships is an enormous investment, and doesn't happen overnight. IMO, the G's metamorphosis will be more gradual than what some others forecast.
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#122
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Now that you ask, no. But I see frequently 10 year old Lexus GXs that look showroom new (even better than later models). Too bad Lexus has scaled back its palette of exterior colors.
#123
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When Best Western installs charging stations at every parking lot slot, I'll take the EV oath.
#124
Lexus vs Mercedes
I thought that I would retire from fancy cars so got myself a GX. Study, reliable,big, ventilated/ heated seats, wood trim, but everything seems fake. Synthetic leather, old tech, outdated sound system but everything works well. No warning signs, no recalls. After 1 week of driving it, placed my name on 21 and 22 G63. I think that it all depends on how you want to travel. Premium economy, business, or first class.
#125
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I thought that I would retire from fancy cars so got myself a GX. Study, reliable,big, ventilated/ heated seats, wood trim, but everything seems fake. Synthetic leather, old tech, outdated sound system but everything works well. No warning signs, no recalls. After 1 week of driving it, placed my name on 21 and 22 G63. I think that it all depends on how you want to travel. Premium economy, business, or first class.