21 G63 MSRP bait and switch?
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21 G63 MSRP bait and switch?
Hello, I had ordered a 2021 G63 2 years ago. Was promised verbally for MSRP and gave deposit and had a build sheet with price verbally agreed upon. I did not sign anything binding me at MSRP per se but that is what was agreed upon saying they are one of the few dealers who don’t upcharge . Vehicle is getting delivered soon after the 2 year wait and now dealer wants $50k over stating the market is entirely different now despite what was verbally promised previously. Very upsetting that there was no forewarning of this. I understand the market has high demand etc. but this is very upsetting at the 11th hour.
Anyone face this situation recently or know of this? Any advice on what to do here? Obviously I want the car but this definitely makes the whole experience distasteful.
Anyone face this situation recently or know of this? Any advice on what to do here? Obviously I want the car but this definitely makes the whole experience distasteful.
#2
Just look at half the post on this forum over the past two months and you'll see the exact same scenario with the exact same questions. Bottom line, pony up or lose the truck. Good luck!
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Hello, I had ordered a 2021 G63 2 years ago. Was promised verbally for MSRP and gave deposit and had a build sheet with price verbally agreed upon. I did not sign anything binding me at MSRP per se but that is what was agreed upon saying they are one of the few dealers who don’t upcharge . Vehicle is getting delivered soon after the 2 year wait and now dealer wants $50k over stating the market is entirely different now despite what was verbally promised previously. Very upsetting that there was no forewarning of this. I understand the market has high demand etc. but this is very upsetting at the 11th hour.
Anyone face this situation recently or know of this? Any advice on what to do here? Obviously I want the car but this definitely makes the whole experience distasteful.
Anyone face this situation recently or know of this? Any advice on what to do here? Obviously I want the car but this definitely makes the whole experience distasteful.
#5
The 2 year wait should have clued you in to this dealer's tactics. It costs a dealer NOTHING to take your deposit, put your name on a list and provide you an allocation if the market for Gs goes belly-up (that is, he runs out of customers who are willing to pay $25K -$50K ADMs). There are buyers reporting on this forum that they're getting Gs in 3 months and paying $50K - $100K ADMs. This is how the market works - being promised MSRP with no paperwork or delivery commitment is meaningless. I would not expect any dealer to deliver allocations to buyers based on date of order. Someone walks in and agrees to pay $50K over MSRP will be put at the top of the list. Pay the $50K or get your deposit back.
#6
Similar threads here, signed paperwork, gave deposit, was told one thing, etc.. Reality is the dealer can do anything they want. 50K over is actually not bad considering 100K is becoming quite common. Pay up or start looking at alternatives.
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Hello, I had ordered a 2021 G63 2 years ago. Was promised verbally for MSRP and gave deposit and had a build sheet with price verbally agreed upon. I did not sign anything binding me at MSRP per se but that is what was agreed upon saying they are one of the few dealers who don’t upcharge . Vehicle is getting delivered soon after the 2 year wait and now dealer wants $50k over stating the market is entirely different now despite what was verbally promised previously. Very upsetting that there was no forewarning of this. I understand the market has high demand etc. but this is very upsetting at the 11th hour.
Anyone face this situation recently or know of this? Any advice on what to do here? Obviously I want the car but this definitely makes the whole experience distasteful.
Anyone face this situation recently or know of this? Any advice on what to do here? Obviously I want the car but this definitely makes the whole experience distasteful.
When our order went in to be built the MY2022 suspension was just announced so everything was very uncertain in my mind. But my dealer assured me we would still be getting our G63 but that it would be a MY2021. No mention of ADM change.
Delivery day came and I walked into the dealer sure I was about to get hit with an increased ADM due to the current market. Didn't happen. The dealer kept their word even though they had new and used G63's on the showroom floor for 50k+ over MSRP.
They easily could have screwed us but instead did the right thing and earned a customer for life. They never even hinted that they could have gotten more for the vehicle but we all knew that we were walking out with an insane deal. Very happy with them and also very sorry to hear about your experience.
As far as what to do... After owning the G63 for a few weeks, I would pay the 50k over. I know it sounds insane but it's truly an amazing vehicle that has exceeded all of my expectations (first-time G63 owner). I would focus on YOU right now, instead of focusing on the crappy dealer. Do YOU still want the car? If so, then please, by all means, pay the man and give them a one-fingered salute as you ride off into the sunset.
Last edited by phow; 10-27-2021 at 11:35 AM.
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#8
Ordered our G63 8 months ago and took delivery 2-3 weeks ago now. Since we were new clients for this dealer, the ADM was 10k over MSRP. Everything was signed and in writing with a 1k deposit to lock in the spot on the list (was actually able to see the list of builds ahead of us waiting for allocations).
When our order went in to be built the MY2022 suspension was just announced so everything was very uncertain in my mind. But my dealer assured me we would still be getting our G63 but that it would be a MY2021. No mention of ADM change.
Delivery day came and I walked into the dealer sure I was about to get hit with an increased ADM due to the current market. Didn't happen. The dealer kept their word even though they had new and used G63's on the showroom floor for 50k+ over MSRP.
They easily could have screwed us but instead did the right thing and earned a customer for life. They never even hinted that they could have gotten more for the vehicle but we all knew that we were walking out with an insane deal. Very happy with them and also very sorry to hear about your experience.
As far as what to do... After owning the G63 for a few weeks, I would pay the 50k over. I know it sounds insane but it's truly an amazing vehicle that has exceeded all of my expectations (first-time G63 owner). I would focus on YOU right now, instead of focusing on the crappy dealer. Do YOU still want the car? If so, then please, by all means, pay the man and give them a one-fingered salute as you ride off into the sunset.
When our order went in to be built the MY2022 suspension was just announced so everything was very uncertain in my mind. But my dealer assured me we would still be getting our G63 but that it would be a MY2021. No mention of ADM change.
Delivery day came and I walked into the dealer sure I was about to get hit with an increased ADM due to the current market. Didn't happen. The dealer kept their word even though they had new and used G63's on the showroom floor for 50k+ over MSRP.
They easily could have screwed us but instead did the right thing and earned a customer for life. They never even hinted that they could have gotten more for the vehicle but we all knew that we were walking out with an insane deal. Very happy with them and also very sorry to hear about your experience.
As far as what to do... After owning the G63 for a few weeks, I would pay the 50k over. I know it sounds insane but it's truly an amazing vehicle that has exceeded all of my expectations (first-time G63 owner). I would focus on YOU right now, instead of focusing on the crappy dealer. Do YOU still want the car? If so, then please, by all means, pay the man and give them a one-fingered salute as you ride off into the sunset.
#9
Thanks for the responses. I think the only upsetting part is in the times when I was called in to adjust the spec due to MY21/22 changes etc the salesman told me how other dealers were doing crazy ADMs etc and how they were happy to have me
enjoy the truck at msrp etc etc blah blah.
Then finally when the vehicle is built, it feels crappy to be thrown for a loop and makes the buying experience that much worse. 2 years ago I very well could’ve paid the ADM and gotten a vehicle sooner from elsewhere (they weren’t doing ADMs at this dealer until now). I even asked if there was any change that an adjustment would be done and he assured me no. Of course now it’s “upper management” decision. Just feels like I could’ve been in this vehicle a lot sooner than I ended up deceptively awaiting. In fact, I passed up a brabus version of this exact vehicle back then which would’ve been only 15k more than what I may end up needing to pay now. C’est la vie
enjoy the truck at msrp etc etc blah blah.
Then finally when the vehicle is built, it feels crappy to be thrown for a loop and makes the buying experience that much worse. 2 years ago I very well could’ve paid the ADM and gotten a vehicle sooner from elsewhere (they weren’t doing ADMs at this dealer until now). I even asked if there was any change that an adjustment would be done and he assured me no. Of course now it’s “upper management” decision. Just feels like I could’ve been in this vehicle a lot sooner than I ended up deceptively awaiting. In fact, I passed up a brabus version of this exact vehicle back then which would’ve been only 15k more than what I may end up needing to pay now. C’est la vie
#10
They earned a customer for life by not changing the agreed-upon deal when they easily could have increased the required ADM or fudged with other portions of the deal due to the increased market demand.
Way to take a statement completely out of context
Most would agree that a 10k ADM on a high-demand vehicle and being a new client for a dealer is really reasonable considering most charge and can get 50k-100k over.
Way to take a statement completely out of context
Most would agree that a 10k ADM on a high-demand vehicle and being a new client for a dealer is really reasonable considering most charge and can get 50k-100k over.
Last edited by phow; 10-27-2021 at 01:01 PM.
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#11
I guess the glass half full thinking is that at least you are getting the build that you specified. Unless of course, you ordered black/black or white/black...
#12
It sounds like they planned the scam from the beginning. I'd get my deposit back and tell them to take a long walk off a short pier and never do business with them again. 2 years of gaming you. Don't give them a dime. You deserve better and think of all the things you can do with $50k. Look at the new Jeep with the V8 or put an order in for the new C8 Z06.
#13
Surely there are some buyers who have placed orders with multiple dealers to hedge their position. Six orders at six dealerships is $6K in deposits -- chump change in the overall scheme of things. The first dealer to deliver without an outrageous ADM sells the vehicle.
I thought I was crazy paying $5K over MSRP two years ago for a G550.
I thought I was crazy paying $5K over MSRP two years ago for a G550.
#14
Yea, if it isn't in writing you're kinda screwed.
I put in an order for my G in August 2020 and paid a slight ADM of 10k and mine was in writing signed by me and the dealer.
When I picked it up in May of 2021 that's what I paid because it was what was agreed on and signed on by both parties.
Now looking at these prices of G63s going for high 200s to low 300s is crazy, in hindsight 10k is nothing.
I put in an order for my G in August 2020 and paid a slight ADM of 10k and mine was in writing signed by me and the dealer.
When I picked it up in May of 2021 that's what I paid because it was what was agreed on and signed on by both parties.
Now looking at these prices of G63s going for high 200s to low 300s is crazy, in hindsight 10k is nothing.
#15
Surely there are some buyers who have placed orders with multiple dealers to hedge their position. Six orders at six dealerships is $6K in deposits -- chump change in the overall scheme of things. The first dealer to deliver without an outrageous ADM sells the vehicle.
I thought I was crazy paying $5K over MSRP two years ago for a G550.
I thought I was crazy paying $5K over MSRP two years ago for a G550.
I'm in line at three dealers again but thankfully they aren't asking for deposits yet since it'll be so long until allocations come back.
#17
It sounds like they planned the scam from the beginning. I'd get my deposit back and tell them to take a long walk off a short pier and never do business with them again. 2 years of gaming you. Don't give them a dime. You deserve better and think of all the things you can do with $50k. Look at the new Jeep with the V8 or put an order in for the new C8 Z06.
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#19
I did a trade and am paying msrp plus the 299 doc fee for my G63. It's built and waiting on a ship. My dealer is sticking to their word thankfully. But that was my thought, the 392 or the Z06. I am on a list for a C6 Z08 and was told its probably 2 years out. I figure I will drive this for a couple years or more. If I come up on the Z06 list then maybe I will trade or sell the G, and if I like this well I will hang on to it. Being the last V8 twin turbo, I am sure it will hold its own in desirability. Given we don't end up like Mad Max looking for a drop of gasoline to run it lol
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#20
LOL. Thanks, I was thinking of my old Vet when I messed up. (: The 392 Jeep was the one I meant. Should have been more specific. I actually traded in my Redeye for the G63. That car got a lot of compliments. Me, not so much!
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1. Hodog16: If you can I would buy all of them and flip them at the current ADM. We did something like this with some recreational vehicles.....
2. I wonder how much my 2002 G maintained by the dealer and then my friend who is retired Master Mercedes tech, always garaged, B6 Bilsteins all around, with 169k miles is worth?
If it got totaled I would tell the insurance company to replace it.
2. I wonder how much my 2002 G maintained by the dealer and then my friend who is retired Master Mercedes tech, always garaged, B6 Bilsteins all around, with 169k miles is worth?
If it got totaled I would tell the insurance company to replace it.
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#24
Yes unfortunately I withdrew my other deposits when I got my vehicle. If I had stayed in line I would have gotten deliveries for December 2020 (which I took), February 2021, and probably sometime in the summer for the third.