Confirmed: 2023 G-Classes are missing start/stop
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Confirmed: 2023 G-Classes are missing start/stop
As reported by haa in this post, can confirm the 2023's are in fact missing the start/stop feature. There's a blank spot next to the ignition button, and the AMG button's don't show it when you search through the icons.
I was looking for how to turn it off on the way home from the dealer when I remembered haa's post and said son of a gun, they were right .
I was looking for how to turn it off on the way home from the dealer when I remembered haa's post and said son of a gun, they were right .
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Anybody with a 2023 G63 wagon who has had prior 2019-22 G63? Wondering if any noticeable differences in motor or exhaust.
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As reported by haa in this post, can confirm the 2023's are in fact missing the start/stop feature. There's a blank spot next to the ignition button, and the AMG button's don't show it when you search through the icons.
I was looking for how to turn it off on the way home from the dealer when I remembered haa's post and said son of a gun, they were right .
I was looking for how to turn it off on the way home from the dealer when I remembered haa's post and said son of a gun, they were right .
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Does lack of this button mean the start/stop function is always disabled (as in no longer present)? My 2019 G550 has the button, but it has never functioned to disable start/stop. Those of you who always shift out of comfort mode into sport mode (which disables start/stop) should check to see if start/stop is still present in comfort mode. BMW eliminated this button on some of its cars when its "mild hybrid" system became standard. Apparently on its cars the mild hybrid system needs to shut off the engine to have its optimum fuel savings effect.
But if it's really kaput for good, this is great news. I always considered it a safety hazard in addition to being an annoyance.
But if it's really kaput for good, this is great news. I always considered it a safety hazard in addition to being an annoyance.
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It doesn’t exist on the car at all.
Once you start the car and go to a stop light and push hard on the brake nothing happens. The two ways I know to turn it off don’t exist—blank button as pictured and the Amg steering wheel controls don’t allow it to be selected.
Once you start the car and go to a stop light and push hard on the brake nothing happens. The two ways I know to turn it off don’t exist—blank button as pictured and the Amg steering wheel controls don’t allow it to be selected.
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On my 2021 it worked and I loved it. I used to come to a complete stop and then pump the brake with a little force. The car would then say hold on the main display. You could leave the brake and just relax the feet until the green light and a tap of the accelerator got it going. I am hoping it’s still there on the 2023…
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On my 2021 it worked and I loved it. I used to come to a complete stop and then pump the brake with a little force. The car would then say hold on the main display. You could leave the brake and just relax the feet until the green light and a tap of the accelerator got it going. I am hoping it’s still there on the 2023…
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Tons of electronics behind the auto stop start including multiple controllers and engine and battery sensors and switches and a whole additional Auxiliary battery, brake hold on the other hand is much simpler and is done with software since the brake control circuits are built into the Distronic plus and pre-safe electronics modules.
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Tons of electronics behind the auto stop start including multiple controllers and engine and battery sensors and switches and a whole additional Auxiliary battery, brake hold on the other hand is much simpler and is done with software since the brake control circuits are built into the Distronic plus and pre-safe electronics modules.
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only a select few I guess; the chosen ones perhaps...
you can see this one has the dreaded button (got to squint a little harder)..
NB:the title says 2024 but it's actually a 2023 (he posted another video of the same car where it says 2023)
you can see this one has the dreaded button (got to squint a little harder)..
NB:the title says 2024 but it's actually a 2023 (he posted another video of the same car where it says 2023)
#20
I think because the guy in the vid is driving a Euro spec one and their regulations are stricter than here in NA. Also the Euro spec AMG's are all a little bit more muted than their NA counterparts because of the mandatory OPF in Europe.
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I haven't been able to find any confirmation that MY23 G's are equipped with mild hybrid tech, but I suspect they are, as are several other MB vehicles (this might also explain MB's sales suspension of V8s in 2021). Mild hybrid integrates a starter/motor/generator into the transmission. This starts the engine, accelerates the vehicle and charges the battery that powers the start/motor functions when braking. Vehicles equipped with MH don't have ECO Start/Stop disable because it''s always enabled. The motor that starts the engine and simultaneously accelerates the vehicle from a standstill makes the ECO Start/Stop seamless and imperceptible. There's no latency or jerking that occurs because the motor is immediately responsive just as with an EV. Even MB is somewhat cagey about disclosing anything on its website about the G and MH. Anyone know for sure?
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Thanks for confirming this. MBUSA's website still shows the "A" encompassed with the arrow next to the ignition button in the '23 G-Class gallery. It's hard to sort out fact from fiction when such inaccuracies appear.