Does the 2024 G63 have level 2 autonomous driving? I have seen on YouTube that the Porsche Innodrive system works pretty well on the freeway. One of the local MB dealerships has a '24 G63, and their markup should be in the $10K, and I am tempted to get a '24 instead of waiting for a '25 if the 2024 model has lane-keeping feature. How's your experience using the LKA and ACC together?

PS: My garage door height when it opens is 80 inches. The spec shows the height of a G class is 77.5 inches. With a 22" wheel for the G63, I am worried that it might not fit a G63. Any thought?

Thank you for being so helpful!

 

I have mixed enthusism for all this autonomous driving stuff. Lots of folks think like the the guy in the TV commercial driving the pickup truck hauling the trailer load of ATVs, who hits the hands-free button and then sits there with his hands on his lap as if he's discovered some new euphoric level of transcendental meditation. Few people stop to think that autonomous driving equates with strict adherence to ALL traffic laws. No +5 mph over the speed limit, no tailgating, no coasting through stop signs, and probably the absolute worst -- yielding the right of way! Do you know anyone who drives like this, or has the patience to let his autonomous vehicle behave this way? Once people discover this, they'll say "enough of this crap", and go back to driving the car themselves.

I find ACC a benefit entirely for its ability to slow my car so I don't have to hit the brakes when I'm approaching a slow vehicle and another vehicle is occupying the passing lane. I don't consider it in any sense an autopilot feature.

My BMW has steering assist that can be enabled when ACC is active. Steering assist provides a very gentle pull that keeps the car lane-centered, and is helpful on disintegrating interstates that are badly rutted. But it gets confused when a single lane transitions to a double lane and the lane striping no longer adheres to its expectations. Again, useful, but not a system I'm prepared relinquish control to.

Lane keeping, IMO, is not only annoying, but dangerous, and I've disabled it on my G550 and BMW. The G550 invokes a violent single rear wheel braking accompanied by a counter steering jerk. If this is anyone's idea of refined autonomous driving, they haven't thought it through. I'm waiting for someone to report how well this works on black ice.

While I find some of this ADAS stuff helpful, I don't find any of it "must-have". When I stop wanting to drive, I'll hire a chauffeur rather than entrusting a pile of sensors, actuators, microcontrollers and buggy software that rely entirely on stripes painted on the road surface.

Regarding your garage door, don't forget to include in height clearance the steel arm that links the door to the opener trolley. When I built my house a few years ago, I spec'd 8 ft. tall x 9 ft. wide doors, and am glad I did.

 

The 22" wheel shouldn't make a difference because the G with OEM wheels whether 20/21/22 should have about the same height give or take 0.1". If you add aftermarket all-terrain wheels then you would be adding to the height. I think it will fit but it will be tight.

As streborx said the LKA is horrible and should not be used on a regular basis if not ever. I've only experienced it once when I forgot to turn it off and that was enough. I have never used ACC but can see how it can be helpful on the highway.

Basically don't depend on this car to do anything autonomous other than ACC.

 

Thanks for the lengthy advice about the autonomous driving and about the garage door steel arms.

 

No

 

Im glad I’m not the only one that hates this and thinks it’s dangerous.

 

Yes this. Because it can’t do it through steering, it has to do it via braking. A weird and scary sensation.

 

Very scary, I disengaged it. To me, it was more of a safety hazard than a safety precaution.

 

I've also found it to be unpredictable/inconsistent which makes it even more jarring once it engages. I've done things with the intent of invoking it and had it do nothing and then later in seemingly safe/normal conditions it engaged.

 

Can you imagine LKA and this roundabout in the UK (known as the "Magic Roundabout" by the locals, and the "Bermuda Roundabout" by the rest of us) :-J