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Old Oct 27, 2024 | 12:38 PM
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whoops knew that , meant to ask someone else lol
sorry my man!
Lol! I looked after I posted that.
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Old Oct 28, 2024 | 11:00 AM
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Agreed, imo PPF is a complete waste of money and I am OCD about my vehicles. After owning 2 Gs in 4 years both of which were my daily drivers and taking them through car washes both with brushes and touchless countless times, I can confidently say that the paint looks just as good as the day I bought it.

If I really want it to look amazing over the weekend, I’ll spend the extra time hand washing and buffing it… I think PPF and ceramic coating is just a way for detailing and wrap shops to make a quick buck.
What color wagons do you have?
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Old Oct 28, 2024 | 11:38 AM
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What color wagons do you have?
China blue and Moonlight white
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Old Oct 28, 2024 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by MCMiami
What color wagons do you have?
I’ve owned black, silver, solar beam yellow, night magno, platinum magno, green hell magno. No issues with paint although older ones rusted badly when driven in snow and salt. Have not seen any rust on any panels with the new ones since 2019 except on the door hinges.
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Old Oct 28, 2024 | 06:31 PM
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I’ve owned black, silver, solar beam yellow, night magno, platinum magno, green hell magno. No issues with paint although older ones rusted badly when driven in snow and salt. Have not seen any rust on any panels with the new ones since 2019 except on the door hinges.
Interesting you mentioned the door hinges. I was speaking with a buddy who works as head mechanic at a local McLaren shop. He noted McLaren hinges are prone to oxidation and rust, as well as those of the G wagons. He suggested a simple solution - WD40... He recommended it as a preventive measure.

I've been injecting a bit of WD40 into the my door hinges after every wash. I just need to be extra careful in avoiding oversprays/drips since my G63 is Night Black Magno.
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Old Nov 9, 2024 | 12:01 PM
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Does anyone know if you get some areas with xpel stealth PPF and not the whole vehicle it it’s a noticeable difference in appearance?
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Old Nov 10, 2024 | 12:19 AM
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It is noticeable if you wrap only part of it. Regarding PPF, Magno paint is notoriously bad to fix (e.g, rock chips, etc.), so PPF will help with it.

Also, PPF definitely helps with door dings. I’m not an MB executive, but I owned two MBs with Magno paint, so there goes that.

High-quality PPF has a 10-year warranty (e.g. Stek) so unless you're planning to drive it for super long I don't see the concern with removing it.

Also related, but unrelated -- there is PPF for the windshield too.

All that being said, I have wrapped my entire G. The windshield too.

I have used stek dynomatt and you can't it's wrapped.

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Old Nov 10, 2024 | 02:30 AM
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I’ve also PPFed my entire 2024 Copper Orange Magno G63 and ceramic coated on top of that including the wheels. Wheels are much easier to clean as the brake dust just rinses off. I don’t know that I would have done the entire vehicle if it had non Magno paint.

After mostly road trip miles, the PPF has protected the car splendidly. I would have had rock chips by now otherwise. I can see it in the PPF where the rocks have hit. I’m currently needing to replace my drivers side front blinker as it has cracked. (Only painted surfaces receive the PPF treatment.) The windshield is also protected and there are a couple of places where I can see that rocks have hit it. The windshield is fine as well.

I completely disagree with the statement that people are just trying to get your money. It has absolutely protected my vehicle. The only front surface not covered in PPF cracked (the blinker).

I also purchased PPF for my interior as well and have been slowly installing it myself. From this experience, I’ve learned that installing PPF is super time consuming to get it right. Next time, I’ll let the pros do the interior in addition to the exterior. It takes a lot of practice to get good at installing PPF.

On my 2025 G63, I may only do PPF to the front part of the vehicle and see how it goes.

For me, I have piece of mind knowing that my vehicle is in perfect condition. If it were a $50k vehicle I wouldn’t do it, but on this vehicle, I did.

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Old Nov 10, 2024 | 02:32 AM
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Does anyone know if you get some areas with xpel stealth PPF and not the whole vehicle it it’s a noticeable difference in appearance?
No difference. I have it on my vehicle and it looks the same, before and after.
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Old Nov 10, 2024 | 03:45 AM
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Does anyone know what it would cost to repaint the entire vehicle? For a magno paint?

Because if repainting it is <15k, it might just make more sense to do that instead after 5 or so years (if you keep it that long).
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Old Nov 10, 2024 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by t94
It is noticeable if you wrap only part of it. Regarding PPF, Magno paint is notoriously bad to fix (e.g, rock chips, etc.), so PPF will help with it.

Also, PPF definitely helps with door dings. I’m not an MB executive, but I owned two MBs with Magno paint, so there goes that.

High-quality PPF has a 10-year warranty (e.g. Stek) so unless you're planning to drive it for super long I don't see the concern with removing it.

Also related, but unrelated -- there is PPF for the windshield too.

All that being said, I have wrapped my entire G. The windshield too.

I have used stek dynomatt and you can't it's wrapped.
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I’ve also PPFed my entire 2024 Copper Orange Magno G63 and ceramic coated on top of that including the wheels. Wheels are much easier to clean as the brake dust just rinses off. I don’t know that I would have done the entire vehicle if it had non Magno paint.

After mostly road trip miles, the PPF has protected the car splendidly. I would have had rock chips by now otherwise. I can see it in the PPF where the rocks have hit. I’m currently needing to replace my drivers side front blinker as it has cracked. (Only painted surfaces receive the PPF treatment.) The windshield is also protected and there are a couple of places where I can see that rocks have hit it. The windshield is fine as well.

I completely disagree with the statement that people are just trying to get your money. It has absolutely protected my vehicle. The only front surface not covered in PPF cracked (the blinker).

I also purchased PPF for my interior as well and have been slowly installing it myself. From this experience, I’ve learned that installing PPF is super time consuming to get it right. Next time, I’ll let the pros do the interior in addition to the exterior. It takes a lot of practice to get good at installing PPF.

On my 2025 G63, I may only do PPF to the front part of the vehicle and see how it goes.

For me, I have piece of mind knowing that my vehicle is in perfect condition. If it were a $50k vehicle I wouldn’t do it, but on this vehicle, I did.
Usually share these sentiments, and taking a step back and reflecting it's amazing to see both

1) how much more expensive luxury cars have become
and 2) how much more obsessive we are over protecting every nook and cranny of these depreciating, utilized assets

To my own surprise I've stopped "PPF'ing" my cars after either doing full or front+rocker wraps and just going with ceramic coat. Definitely going against the grain, but I'm beginning to appreciate wear and tear and little indications of use and enjoyment to remind me just like the cars, we all age and find beauty in that. Came to the realization here at least here in LA, every car looks brand new with thousands and thousands invested to our detailers to make and keep them looking absolutely perfect, it's becoming more rare and appreciated for me to see a 911 dirty and scuffed a bit, or a G63 dirty and scuffed a bit. They're all homogenous now in being fully force fielded and always brand spanking new in the parking lots, which given the cost of these toys I completely understand

That being said I just picked up a 2021 dark olive magno G63 and I'm enjoying seeing the little chips and marks (>30k miles) on the truck, showing me it's been used and enjoyed and find it suits the ethos of the truck quite well! YMMV!
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Old Nov 10, 2024 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by sampelligrino
Usually share these sentiments, and taking a step back and reflecting it's amazing to see both

1) how much more expensive luxury cars have become
and 2) how much more obsessive we are over protecting every nook and cranny of these depreciating, utilized assets

To my own surprise I've stopped "PPF'ing" my cars after either doing full or front+rocker wraps and just going with ceramic coat. Definitely going against the grain, but I'm beginning to appreciate wear and tear and little indications of use and enjoyment to remind me just like the cars, we all age and find beauty in that. Came to the realization here at least here in LA, every car looks brand new with thousands and thousands invested to our detailers to make and keep them looking absolutely perfect, it's becoming more rare and appreciated for me to see a 911 dirty and scuffed a bit, or a G63 dirty and scuffed a bit. They're all homogenous now in being fully force fielded and always brand spanking new in the parking lots, which given the cost of these toys I completely understand

That being said I just picked up a 2021 dark olive magno G63 and I'm enjoying seeing the little chips and marks (>30k miles) on the truck, showing me it's been used and enjoyed and find it suits the ethos of the truck quite well! YMMV!
I understand what you are saying . I am however OCD and don’t want any chips or marks if I can help it!
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Old Nov 10, 2024 | 12:55 PM
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For those adding PPF with hopes that it will keep the value of the vehicle up I’m sorry to say that it won’t. Most dealers (in my area anyways) hate buying cars that are wrapped because there is always a risk if the new customer wants it removed that it will damage the paint. As others have said the wrap tends to bond with the paint over time and removing it leaves a residue or worse removes some of the top coat.

Also, dealers won’t pay for the wrap costs nor do they adjust the price just because it’s wrapped. So from a resale perspective it’s a waste of money.
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Old Nov 10, 2024 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by MCMiami
I understand what you are saying . I am however OCD and don’t want any chips or marks if I can help it!
Hey man, your hard earned money your hard earned car, you should do as you please!

Was only sharing my own 180 where I used to full wrap and force field every single Porsche I'd buy, want everything as pristine and perfect as can be, but now realized with everyone doing it I kind of like seeing the patina develop over time and enjoyed ownership. These are cars where rubber meets the road (and debris). I just added a 10 year old 911 to the garage and same thing, actually enjoy seeing that the car was well taken care of but also enjoyed and not brand new

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For those adding PPF with hopes that it will keep the value of the vehicle up I’m sorry to say that it won’t. Most dealers (in my area anyways) hate buying cars that are wrapped because there is always a risk if the new customer wants it removed that it will damage the paint. As others have said the wrap tends to bond with the paint over time and removing it leaves a residue or worse removes some of the top coat.

Also, dealers won’t pay for the wrap costs nor do they adjust the price just because it’s wrapped. So from a resale perspective it’s a waste of money.
Resale will also eat you for a car with paint that's chewed up and not filmed, but I've had the same experience where dealers could not care less if the car was filmed when trading it in. Bottom line they will find a way to get you one way or another, and extract maximum pain... ha ha
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Old Nov 10, 2024 | 01:14 PM
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I guess I need to decide wtf to do lol! Pros and cons on all ends
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Originally Posted by MCMiami
I guess I need to decide wtf to do lol! Pros and cons on all ends
appreciate all the insight on here.
I say, it’s a waste of money and can damage your magno paint if it ever needs to be removed. Ask your installer.
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Old Nov 10, 2024 | 03:03 PM
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I say, it’s a waste of money and can damage your magno paint if it ever needs to be removed. Ask your installer.
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Old Nov 10, 2024 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by sampelligrino
Resale will also eat you for a car with paint that's chewed up and not filmed, but I've had the same experience where dealers could not care less if the car was filmed when trading it in. Bottom line they will find a way to get you one way or another, and extract maximum pain... ha ha
Oh for sure… completely agree but I’d say the type of person that wrap tends to be a bit OCD and is likely to take care of the paint even if not wrapped. I consider myself in that group. When I bought my first G I was 100% going to wrap it but ended up not doing it.

The first year I treated her like a princess, only hand washed etc but eventuality that got time consuming and I decided to run it through a car wash, nervous as hell it was going to ruin things lol. Now 4 years later and about to get my 3rd G I realize I was worrying for nothing. These are incredible vehicles and as long as you take care of them they will last forever and look amazing… wrapped or not.

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Old Nov 10, 2024 | 07:43 PM
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I understand what you are saying . I am however OCD and don’t want any chips or marks if I can help it!
Same here! My beater is my 1998 Land Cruiser that’s still going strong after 27-years.
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Old Nov 10, 2024 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by tonygwagon
Oh for sure… completely agree but I’d say the type of person that wrap tends to be a bit OCD and is likely to take care of the paint even if not wrapped.

Now 4 years later and about to get my 3rd G I realize I was worrying for nothing.
Well, maybe when I’m on my 3rd G I’ll be the same. As this is my 1st G, and I’m OCD, I did full PPF.

I'm trading my 2024 anywhere from mid to end of 2025, depending upon where I end up with my allocation. If it’s close enough to the 2026 model year, I may push it out.

It will still look brand new, thanks to the PPF. I know I won’t get any money for the PPF but perhaps a higher trade in value, due to it being in perfect condition?

FYI: To remove PPF, you need a lot of slip solution (soapy water). But it’s time consuming, as you’re doing like a 1/4” at a time. You don’t want to peel it off. It had to be really wet. I’ve been PPFing my interior and it’s difficult!
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Old Nov 10, 2024 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by MCMiami
I guess I need to decide wtf to do lol! Pros and cons on all ends
appreciate all the insight on here.
If you’re not keeping it, and the trade in value ends up being the same with or without rock chips, I wouldn’t do it.

If you’re keeping it, personally I would do full PPF or at least the front. Plus ceramic coat the entire vehicle. Also, I would buy the 7-year warrantee as forum members say at 42,000 miles, very expensive repairs start happening.

i plan on trading mine every one to two years. Was going to buy the extended warrantee but passed since I won’t be keeping it. That is a departure for me, as I typically keep my cars. I’m just apprehensive of the upkeep expense of an old G63 compared to the depreciation hit I’ll take, if I trade it every year.
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Sam Pelligrino,
After reading your age spots post, I would venture to guess you are a patina restoration kind of guy. I lean that way myself. You can only have the original paint job once.
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I have my G fully wrapped and after a year, the peace of mind is nice but also i dont think the cost / value is there. I had impact zones on my M5C wrapped and as my DD it definitely helped with rock chips etc but also vehicle is much lower to the ground obviously. As previously stated when selling / trading in you get no $ out of it so my opinion is unless you plan on keeping the car very long term and are extremely ocd either no wrap or just impact should be fine. As to being able to notice partial from full wraps its only discernable very closely if you know what your looking for (if you have a good installer) nothing to worry about.

As im thinking of trading in my '24G for a '25 highly doubt id wrap the full vehicle again. Just doesnt make financial sense - if you take care of your vehicle already.
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I've left my '24 Magno Black unwrapped. I just don't see the point. I've had it now for 6 months and not a single scratch or ding. I take it onto the highway regularly and do not baby it in any way. I just have a really good specialist who hand washes it once a month or so. I figure should scratches and dings become a problem as the car ages, I'll just have an authorized MB vendor repaint the entire vehicle.

I'm generally not a fan of wraps because I like the look of the natural matte paint, especially the menacing and stealthy matte black appearance which I'm partial to. I have, however, PPF'ed my Lotus Emira. The Emira is my first experience with PPF. The only reason I wrapped my Emira is to give it a matte black look as Lotus doesn't offer this color as an option. It looks good from afar. However, once I get within 5 feet of the vehicle, I can somehow tell it's a wrap job as opposed to natural matte paint.
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As im thinking of trading in my '24G for a '25 highly doubt id wrap the full vehicle again. Just doesnt make financial sense - if you take care of your vehicle already.
I'll probably only PPF the high impact areas next time if I start trading them in, every year or two. Typically I keep my vehicles long term but I think I'll come out ahead if I trade them frequently. Since PPF is clear vs a wrap which has a color, you don't notice it unless you inspect within a couple of inches where you can see the edge of the PPF. But you have to look for it.

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