LOL

 

[QUOTE=freepower;9090367]Agreed - I think it’s time we get rid of our cars and go back to horses.[/QUOT
so pre25 G are horses to you 😀

 

not sure if we have any horsepower with one horse though...

Apparently one horse is more than one horsepower?

 

Best reply of the day. It made me laugh so hard in front of my computer that my wife came over and checked in on me

 

I'm already a part owner of 3 horses. Their exhaust doesn't have the deep rumble of the '24 G63 - and their fumes smell weird... Plus, I can't seem to find one in Night Black Magno.

 

too many complaints in one post 😀

 

I took delivery of my G 63 on December 27 of 2024. My first overall impressions are positive. It’s an absolutely beautiful vehicle. I sold my 2019 G 63 prior to ordering the new one. I do have some small frustrations with some changes that they made on the new vehicles. Namely the driver display options are a little too space aged for me. I really appreciated the “traditional” speedo and rev counter display in the old truck. The new version of that on MBUX is a little too George Jetson for me. I’m also a little disappointed with how much sound dampening to have been added to the cabin. It creates too substantial a disconnection between the driver and the vehicle.
Also the bank vault metallic sounding doorS on open and close seems to have been dampened a little too much.
something that also suddenly occurred to me that I am not a fan of is that that beautiful spin up starter sound in my 2019 when firing the engine is gone. Very hard to describe but when pressing the start stop button to fire the engine up, there is no starter sound present at all. Push the button and all of a sudden the engine is idling. Never heard anything like that before but not a huge issue.
I do notice that the exhaust sounds are definitely a little less ruckus than in my 2019. Having said all this I do only have about a 150 miles on the odometer of the new truck. Mercedes literature very clearly states that break in being 1500 miles and none of the engine, components, transmission or exhaust will come into their own until well after that 1500 mile break in. Staying hopeful. However with all the above stated, I still believe it to be a huge improvement over the 2019. I ordered mine with the AMG performance package which includes the active ride suspension which is a massive improvement for stability and cornering on the new vehicle. The new sound system is without doubt a massive improvement over the old which was good to begin with. The vehicle from tip to tail is a beautiful one and again in my opinion a huge improvement over the last one. Unfortunately with all of the changes in the automotive industry for emissions standards, smaller quieter engines are going to be the norm until there are no more internal combustion engines to speak of. A sad day. I try to stay more focused on the fact that likely within two model years, no more V8’s will be available in Mercedes G models. I think it two or three years in hindsight everybody who has a 19-25 model year is going to be over the moon that they have what will turn out to be one of the last iterations of the magnificent V8.

 

So the conclusion is that it is more road worthy than off-road worthy now? Hmmm, I see.

That said so even the 2025 G 63 has an ISG as well replacing the traditional starter?

 

I don’t think that the 2025 has lost any of its off-road chops as far as I can tell. I can say that it is definitely manufactured to be a little easier to deal with on paved surfaces which is where 99.9% of owners are going to keep it.
Didn’t occur to me until I just read your comment that the truck may indeed have an ISG instead of a standard starter. I’m guessing that’s exactly what’s going on. I much prefer the standard starter set up.

 

I see, is the rawness still there?

 

Ya, I prefer the traditional starter, the way it cranks and fire to life is pretty cool.

That said, it was claimed the ISG more reliable because you don't have to deal with belts and stuff....

 

I would say that it is. It is definitely a little more refined all around than the 2019 I owned. Some of the rough edges have definitely been smooth out. The throttle response on my 2019 was lackluster from day one. That’s gone on the new one. Immediate response from the throttle in any gear. Also the substantial body roll is gone with the new suspension in the performance package. Stays almost completely flat Through higher speed cornering and does not lurch or dive under heavy acceleration or braking like the old one did.

 

I definitely miss the sound of that old starter right out of the gates. I’ll get used to what is likely an ISG on the new one. Having said that, reliability is obviously super valuable.

 

I am not sure if it is actually more reliable though...

 

I see, understood now thanks for your impressions, so refinement was their main focus.

 

it should have an emotion start now, like other amgs. Activated by pressing start whilst holding the paddle. Which the old model didnt. With the flaps opening and revs higher…,Perhaps that is louder?

 

tried it once on the new vehicle out of curiosity. Sadly
Made no difference. Again holding out judgment until the engine has at least 2000 miles on it to see how things come into their own.

 

Who told you that? It’s plug and play with pre-wired clips. Besides that, your warranty would not be voided even if you had to splice wires. Modifying your car, especially your exhaust, is your right as an owner. Unless there’s a failure that is proven to be caused by the modification, there will be no issue with warranty. Look up the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act (MMWA).

Honestly man, I find it kind of offensive your SA told you it hurts resale value also. What a load of garbage. You make that dealership so much money trading your car every year! You can swap back to the OEM exhaust before trading it in. Easy peasy.

If you go and start tuning the car and messing with the engines output, sure it could impact resale since a warranty issue there would be very expensive.. but an exhaust flap box or Akrapovic exhaust, please.

 

One of the contributors to a more subtle exhaust sound is the quick automatic upshifts even in Sport Plus mode. I have been using the left control knob to select manual shift which allows me to stay within the steep portion of the torque curve while enhancing the sound. It’s fun too!

 

Agree, AMGs are the best when driven in manual mode, the car therefore doesn't have to predict if you want to upshift or downshift, you tell the car exactly what you want to do. Unlike automatic which might hesitate or jerk.

 

The service manager. They don’t want to modify it.

 

I took delivery of 25’ G63 two days ago and have sent it for full ppf so haven't spent a lot a time with the car, however i must say the exhaust sound is not quieter than before rather i must say its the same. The tone however has completely changed and is more precise and clearer and sounded like multiple gun-firing sounds compared to my 22 model which was more growling type. I did measure the decibel of my 22 model before i sold it. The car did 74 decb in comfort idling, with exhaust on 76 decb, sport plus was 78 decb. I also tested the cold start decb which was 88 decb and when it settled it was 82-83 decb. I will be testing the new car as well after it comes back from ppf but i did conduct these same tests from the factory showroom and all the decibel level was louder but maybe its due to the car being indoor so its not fair. The dealer also told me he's having customer feedback that the new one is louder and maybe its true because in GCC countries we don't have regulations like Europe.

 

I don’t know what you’re talking about, my 25 G 63 exhaust isn’t nearly as loud as my 21 G 63 or my 24 G 63. Everyone at my dealership agreed with me that it’s not as loud.

 

Heard my friends 25 a few times . Though I like everything about that 25, not the sound. My friend curses it every time he hears my 23 bark !!

 

I agree, but I wouldn’t want to go back to the old technology.