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Old Apr 1, 2025 | 10:07 AM
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What has happened to the value of the G's that were purchased during the pandemic at ADMs of $100K+ ? I recall Carfax valued my '19 G550 at 25% over its MSRP in '21. It has since settled to a more rational 70% of MSRP valuation. Tariffs aren't forever. I wouldn't pay any tariff surcharge.
Well the 25% tariff’s placed on China during the first China administration are still there… so hard to say if these will be long term or not. High ADMs are a result of high demand low supply so it’s an artificial price increase. This Is the result of increased cost to Mercedes so unless the tariffs go away the cost increase is here to stay. Seems more ideological that trump wants to bring auto manufacturing back to the US - hard to imagine it’s just a negotiation tactic and the tariffs will drop away any time soon…
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Old Apr 1, 2025 | 10:08 AM
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Anybody who bought before the MY2022 price increase would still do well, but any ADM's are dust in the wind.

Somebody a few streets over from me bought a 2021 G63 a few months after I had my red one and they still have it. Their vehicle is probably now worth $100k less than it was in early 2022.
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Old Apr 2, 2025 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by freepower
Wanting to start a thread for those who custom ordered with a deposit and PO # before 4/2, with vehicles arriving after. There are no official statement yet from MB. It’s still unclear if they are going to honor the original price and absorb the tariff, or if they are going to pass on some or all of the costs to the buyer.

Been hearing different things from different dealers. Some are saying no idea - which is probably the truth given tariffs were just announced. Some are saying because orders were placed before 4/2 you have nothing to worry about - but unclear if that’s a corporate position or an individual dealership position.

Hoping people can post what they are hearing from their sales managers if you fall into this predicament…

I put a deposit down on my G63 in December, MSRP is $227k. It was built in mid March and is on a boat headed over here for delivery end of April. Trying to get a sense of how much my MSRP is going to increase.
Assuming this turns out to be true, I’m wondering if the no tariff for prior orders applies just to G orders or all models? I guess we’ll find out soon….
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Old Apr 2, 2025 | 03:49 PM
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Assuming this turns out to be true, I’m wondering if the no tariff for prior orders applies just to G orders or all models? I guess we’ll find out soon….
Seems like it would be a corporate policy which should apply to all vehicles. But who knows! It's possible they handle their upper tier vehicles different than their mid or lower!
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Old Apr 2, 2025 | 03:59 PM
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Seems like it would be a corporate policy which should apply to all vehicles. But who knows! It's possible they handle their upper tier vehicles different than their mid or lower!
Given the G-wagen is MB's cash cow, I think it is fair it gets a break on the increase due to tariff. Obviously nice to have all models now have the same 25% increase relief but even if G-wagen alone gets the incentive, ot is fair but that is just my opinion.
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Old Apr 2, 2025 | 08:44 PM
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I don’t see how MB will spare us from raised prices when we are the one going to impose taxes. Anything that has not yet landed will get taxed imho.

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Old Apr 3, 2025 | 03:32 AM
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First time poster; long time lurker. Intro post to follow, but I saw this and have some info to share.

Brief Background: Just took delivery of our 2025 G63 . . . in yes--you guessed it--Desert Sand. It was a special order vehicle we placed in October, built in late January and delivered to Baltimore in March. The latter point is key for the below.

Our G arrived in Baltimore on 3/11. On 3/12, there was a tariff announcement. This prompted me (a lawyer) to begin researching maritime law in a frenzy as it was unclear to me as to when a vehicle (or good) is deemed "imported". Until this point in life, I didn't care about this now critical detail. My research resulted in the following: goods are deemed "imported" when they enter US port limits. (Source: 19 CFR Section 101.1 -- Definitions; see "Date of Importation"). Note that for goods imported by plane, I have heard (but not confirmed) that they are deemed imported once the plane lifts off and the paperwork is filed. I doubt this, but most of our cars come by boat so the waterspace aspect was where my digging ended.

With that said, I was sad to see today's announcement as the ramifications for the G (and broader import) community are far from ideal. If dealers are putting statements in writing, that is great. Be ready to take a stand and hold them to that though.

As far as I am aware (and I hope that I am wrong), vehicles imported after 4/2 will be hit with the new tariff, unless something changes. An order or build confirmation or anything other than a vehicle entering port limits is unlikely to suffice as a good deemed imported.
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Old Apr 3, 2025 | 09:45 AM
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Hello everyone. Just a quick update as I got a call from the sales manager yesterday. He said my G wagon is currently on a vessel heading to Baltimore, MD. He will send me the information so I can track it. Since this was after the tariff announcements yesterday, he did reiterate to me that any tariffs imposed that the dealership would be paying them in full as he told me in writing and not to worry about them at all. @DesertSand - I really appreciate your write up above, as it made a lot of sense and sadly will be the reality. I am still not completely relaxed, even having everything in writing and reiterated to me yesterday, but we shall see. I will keep everyone posted as my G wagons makes it's transatlantic journey to Baltimore and then trucked to Massachusetts. This is going to be a real-world test since it will arrive after April 2 - let's see if the dealership really pays the tariff. Of course I hope they do and others can use my example as leverage, but until then, I still remain a little skeptical. ;-)
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Old Apr 3, 2025 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Angus4x4
Hello everyone. Just a quick update as I got a call from the sales manager yesterday. He said my G wagon is currently on a vessel heading to Baltimore, MD. He will send me the information so I can track it. Since this was after the tariff announcements yesterday, he did reiterate to me that any tariffs imposed that the dealership would be paying them in full as he told me in writing and not to worry about them at all. @DesertSand - I really appreciate your write up above, as it made a lot of sense and sadly will be the reality. I am still not completely relaxed, even having everything in writing and reiterated to me yesterday, but we shall see. I will keep everyone posted as my G wagons makes it's transatlantic journey to Baltimore and then trucked to Massachusetts. This is going to be a real-world test since it will arrive after April 2 - let's see if the dealership really pays the tariff. Of course I hope they do and others can use my example as leverage, but until then, I still remain a little skeptical. ;-)
That is great news, happy for you!
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Old Apr 3, 2025 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Angus4x4
Hello everyone. Just a quick update as I got a call from the sales manager yesterday. He said my G wagon is currently on a vessel heading to Baltimore, MD. He will send me the information so I can track it. Since this was after the tariff announcements yesterday, he did reiterate to me that any tariffs imposed that the dealership would be paying them in full as he told me in writing and not to worry about them at all. @DesertSand - I really appreciate your write up above, as it made a lot of sense and sadly will be the reality. I am still not completely relaxed, even having everything in writing and reiterated to me yesterday, but we shall see. I will keep everyone posted as my G wagons makes its transatlantic journey to Baltimore and then trucked to Massachusetts. This is going to be a real-world test since it will arrive after April 2 - let's see if the dealership really pays the tariff. Of course I hope they do and others can use my example as leverage, but until then, I still remain a little skeptical. ;-)
Thanks for the update! Next time you talk with them can you ask if this is just their dealership or if they are getting guidance from Mercedes-Benz USA?
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Old Apr 3, 2025 | 10:49 AM
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You are very welcome! I will definitely ask him and report back to this thread with the answer. Do you know when your G wagon is due to arrive?

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Thanks for the update! Next time you talk with them can you ask if this is just their dealership or if they are getting guidance from Mercedes-Benz USA?
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Old Apr 3, 2025 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Angus4x4
You are very welcome! I will definitely ask him and report back to this thread with the answer. Do you know when your G wagon is due to arrive?
It’s on the boat now! Stopping in Charleston on April 13 then off to Long Beach which I think takes about 10 days. So it should clear customs end of April and be ready for pick up at the dealership either end of April or early May!
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Old Apr 3, 2025 | 11:10 AM
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We may end up taking delivery about the same time, as he told me mine should get to Baltimore in a couple weeks (or sooner) and delivery should also be end of April, possibly early May. Mine is going straight to Baltimore, so that does make things much faster than additional stops or going to the west coast.

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It’s on the boat now! Stopping in Charleston on April 13 then off to Long Beach which I think takes about 10 days. So it should clear customs end of April and be ready for pick up at the dealership either end of April or early May!
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Old Apr 3, 2025 | 02:39 PM
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Hi there. I talked to the sales manager again and have some additional information. He told me that it is guidance directly from Mercedes Benz USA corporate office to the dealership. They do not know how long they will cover the tariffs, but definitely for G wagons ordered and built before April 2 - regardless of delivery date. He said right now it's very up in the air on orders placed after April 2 and they do not have clear guidance on who will pay the tariff. The only thing he is sure of is the guidance for their dealership to pay the tariff on orders built before April 2. I hope that helps, I will keep you posted as I learn more.

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Old Apr 3, 2025 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Angus4x4
Hi there. I talked to the sales manager again and have some additional information. He told me that it is guidance directly from Mercedes Benz USA corporate office to the dealership. They do not know how long they will cover the tariffs, but definitely for G wagons ordered and built before April 2 - regardless of delivery date. He said right now it's very up in the air on orders placed after April 2 and they do not have clear guidance on who will pay the tariff. The only thing he is sure of is the guidance for their dealership to pay the tariff on orders built before April 2. I hope that helps, I will keep you posted as I learn more.
That's really positive if it's coming from MBUSA. Will reach out to my sales manager and see if they are seeing the same guidance!
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Old Apr 3, 2025 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Angus4x4
Hi there. I talked to the sales manager again and have some additional information. He told me that it is guidance directly from Mercedes Benz USA corporate office to the dealership. They do not know how long they will cover the tariffs, but definitely for G wagons ordered and built before April 2 - regardless of delivery date. He said right now it's very up in the air on orders placed after April 2 and they do not have clear guidance on who will pay the tariff. The only thing he is sure of is the guidance for their dealership to pay the tariff on orders built before April 2. I hope that helps, I will keep you posted as I learn more.
That is awesome!
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"the guidance for their dealership to pay the tariff on orders built before April 2"

But doesn't MBUSA import the cars and then sell them to the dealership? If so, MBUSA pays the import duties when it clears customs and is moved to the MBUSA VPC for processing and before shipping to their customer -- the dealership. I don't think the dealerships ever pay import duties directly since they do not import the cars.

Now, MBUSA may be telling the dealers that they will pass on some of the tariff cost to them for orders after April 2. I got the impression that when they cut the PO with MBUSA for the order, at that point, that the price was set between dealer and MBUSA.

I have an order on as boat steaming toward Long Beach right now and the dealer has also said they will honor the negotiated price.
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It seems like a few of us have orders on boats right now - I will be curious to see who takes delivery first. You make a great point, and I thought about that fact as well. You are likely right, I bet it's Mercedes Benz USA that actually pays the import duties (and tariff). Maybe there is some negotiation between Mercedes Benz USA and the dealership, as my sales manager made it seem like the dealership will absorb the cost. He also may have just meant Mercedes Benz in general as you describe. Thanks for the additional information.

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"the guidance for their dealership to pay the tariff on orders built before April 2"
But doesn't MBUSA import the cars and then sell them to the dealership? If so, MBUSA pays the import duties when it clears customs and is moved to the MBUSA VPC for processing and before shipping to their customer -- the dealership. I don't think the dealerships ever pay import duties directly since they do not import the cars.
Now, MBUSA may be telling the dealers that they will pass on some of the tariff cost to them for orders after April 2. I got the impression that when they cut the PO with MBUSA for the order, at that point, that the price was set between dealer and MBUSA.
I have an order on as boat steaming toward Long Beach right now and the dealer has also said they will honor the negotiated price.

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Old Apr 3, 2025 | 06:17 PM
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That's really positive if it's coming from MBUSA. Will reach out to my sales manager and see if they are seeing the same guidance!
I'm too nervous to inquire about my e450. I'll live vicariously through you guys until I get the call. Based on the conversation, since my car was built on 3/20 and already shipped, I should be ok if what you're saying is true.

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This is great news! Logistically I can see MBUSA eating the cost, but I cannot see individual dealerships happily taking on these tariffs without MB reimbursing them. I agree sounds like MBUSA will take care of the tariffs upon entry into the country and invoice the dealers as usual.
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I don't blame you, I was a bit nervous to ask my sales manager last week. As you may have seen in my previous post, I even made them formally put this in writing just in case. My sales manager specifically mentioned the G wagon, but I would imagine Mercedes Benz is doing this for other vehicles as well. Keep us posted!

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I'm too nervous to inquire about my e450. I'll live vicariously through you guys until I get the call. Based on the conversation, since my car was built on 3/20 and already shipped, I should be ok if what you're saying is true.
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The true proof will be when one of us with vehicles built before April 2 at sea (I think there are 3-4 of us on this thread) actually takes delivery and everything is as promised. I agree with you, that is a lot for an individual dealership, so they must have some sort of agreement with Mercedes Benz USA who actually pays the tariffs.

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This is great news! Logistically I can see MBUSA eating the cost, but I cannot see individual dealerships happily taking on these tariffs without MB reimbursing them. I agree sounds like MBUSA will take care of the tariffs upon entry into the country and invoice the dealers as usual.
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Originally Posted by Angus4x4
The true proof will be when one of us with vehicles built before April 2 at sea (I think there are 3-4 of us on this thread) actually takes delivery and everything is as promised. I agree with you, that is a lot for an individual dealership, so they must have some sort of agreement with Mercedes Benz USA who actually pays the tariffs.
Count me in with the group who has a G63 ordered prior to April 2, built and sitting at the port waiting to be loaded on a ship since March 27th. Spoke to my dealer today and the best he would give me is “I am optimistic Mercedes will be covering the cost of the tariff”.
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Count me in with the group who has a G63 ordered prior to April 2, built and sitting at the port waiting to be loaded on a ship since March 27th. Spoke to my dealer today and the best he would give me is “I am optimistic Mercedes will be covering the cost of the tariff”.
That’s not bad! Better than my guy will give me! Hopefully MBUSA announces their official position soon… within a few days vehicles clearing customs as of today will start being purchased by consumers.
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Welcome to the group with G wagons on the water! It is kind of fun for us all to be in the same "boat", no pun intended. At least your dealer told you that, it would be great if they were willing (like my dealership) to put it in writing.

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Count me in with the group who has a G63 ordered prior to April 2, built and sitting at the port waiting to be loaded on a ship since March 27th. Spoke to my dealer today and the best he would give me is “I am optimistic Mercedes will be covering the cost of the tariff”.
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