12.74 @ 105.77mph!!!!!
11-11-2006, 11:23 AM
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[QUOTE=Ted Baldwin;1836037]............Based on trapspeed and 1/4 mile times, the car is making arround 540WHP and 560WHP respectively. My car went through the dreaded MB ECU reflash and had to be reworked. I have not dynoed it since the rework but have gained almost 3mph in trapspeedand shed .26secs from the 1/4 mile time, making the above figures probably correct. What I liked about the runs was that I ran several 12.7's back to back. Previous dyno was prior to all the work and was 496WHP, and at the time trapspeed was 103mph with 1/4 mile time of 12.998
......... I use the break-torque method to launch and on one occassion I locked the differential. I don't know if the Cayenne has locking diffs. The NA G55 with Kleemann s/c is not in the same league as the 05 G55. As you may remember, I have had both.
..........your Cayenne sounds incredible. Congratulations!
Ted,
I agree, the '03 and '05 G55's are not in the same league. Your G55 is truely incredible.
The track here is closed for the winter but here are some videos of my Cayenne racing a 2004 Cayenne Turbo that's stock except for an exhaust. The stock Cayenne is the camera car and he's at WOT.
http://media.putfile.com/MOV04221-37
http://media.putfile.com/MOV04223
http://media.putfile.com/MOV04225-39
......... I use the break-torque method to launch and on one occassion I locked the differential. I don't know if the Cayenne has locking diffs. The NA G55 with Kleemann s/c is not in the same league as the 05 G55. As you may remember, I have had both.
..........your Cayenne sounds incredible. Congratulations!
Ted,
I agree, the '03 and '05 G55's are not in the same league. Your G55 is truely incredible.
The track here is closed for the winter but here are some videos of my Cayenne racing a 2004 Cayenne Turbo that's stock except for an exhaust. The stock Cayenne is the camera car and he's at WOT.
http://media.putfile.com/MOV04221-37
http://media.putfile.com/MOV04223
http://media.putfile.com/MOV04225-39
11-14-2006, 05:06 AM
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The track here is closed for the winter but here are some videos of my Cayenne racing a 2004 Cayenne Turbo that's stock except for an exhaust. The stock Cayenne is the camera car and he's at WOT.
http://media.putfile.com/MOV04221-37
http://media.putfile.com/MOV04223
http://media.putfile.com/MOV04225-39[/QUOTE]
you guys are ****in nuts (Ted & G55K)
congrats on some very very fast ****in suv's
http://media.putfile.com/MOV04221-37
http://media.putfile.com/MOV04223
http://media.putfile.com/MOV04225-39[/QUOTE]
you guys are ****in nuts (Ted & G55K)
congrats on some very very fast ****in suv's
11-14-2006, 08:35 AM
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............my car is definitely not faster than an E55K as a general matter. I stated that my car is faster than some stock E55K's. It is probably faster than most E55K's to the 330 mark because of the 4wheel drive. This is all in fun. A really fast SUV is the Dodge SRT8 with Hennessey Twin turbo that runs 12.2xxx. Because of the creation of of the category sports SUV's like the G55, ML63, the Dodge SRT8 and Cayenne turbo, you can no longer assume that the sports car you are driving won't be left behind by an SUV.
.........at the track I ran head to head against an SL55 in a friendly competition. He beat me to 1/4, I beat him to 330. He ran a 12.45 and I ran 12.76 in that run. There was an E63, CLS63, modified and stock E55's, an SLK55, CLK55 that I did not run directly against. I'll let them post their own times. It was a lot of fun.
.........The G55 absolutely blasts off from zero to 330 mark, but it takes it more than 2.2secs to go from 1/8 to the 1/4. This is the major point of weakness for the car. I am not sure that this can be improved due to the arerodynamics of the tank. But it is an area I will concentrate on for next racing season. The car is limited to 130mph, so by 100mph, the computer is shutting the car down. I can feel the car running out of gas by then. If This can be improved, I think this can easily be a 12.1-12.2 sec car.
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.........at the track I ran head to head against an SL55 in a friendly competition. He beat me to 1/4, I beat him to 330. He ran a 12.45 and I ran 12.76 in that run. There was an E63, CLS63, modified and stock E55's, an SLK55, CLK55 that I did not run directly against. I'll let them post their own times. It was a lot of fun.
.........The G55 absolutely blasts off from zero to 330 mark, but it takes it more than 2.2secs to go from 1/8 to the 1/4. This is the major point of weakness for the car. I am not sure that this can be improved due to the arerodynamics of the tank. But it is an area I will concentrate on for next racing season. The car is limited to 130mph, so by 100mph, the computer is shutting the car down. I can feel the car running out of gas by then. If This can be improved, I think this can easily be a 12.1-12.2 sec car.
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Why is yours limited to 130?
11-14-2006, 01:21 PM
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...........As you know unlike the sedans Mercedes SUV's are top speed limited at 130mph from the facory. Since my ECU flash fiasco, my ECU has been programmed and reprogrammed and re-reprogrammed a gazillion times. I have now gained 3mph in trapspeed and shed .27 secs from my previous pre-flash 1/4 mile time of 12.98 secs. So I am happy. I think through all this my speed limiter is back on, either deliberately by Mercedes or an oversight by Kleemann. I don't really mind since I seldom drive the G55 at that speed. What I don't know is if having the limiter affects acceleration from 100mph to 130mph. I think it does because, I would think that the computer will start shutting the car down as it nears 130mph, otherwise the car will accelerate past it. I maybe wrong.
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11-15-2006, 06:36 AM
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Ted, can you give me a rough idea of what the K4 costs and time required? Also, what's the ECU fiasco? I'm guessing it went in for service and came back minus the Kleeman programming? Did you have to pay to get that reflashed afterward?
12-13-2006, 02:30 PM
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.........This was my best time at the Atlanta meet this past weekend. I was posting the previous times as a build up to this. Just to put in perspective, this is faster than stock M5, E63, CLS63, stock C6 vette, all the mustangs, SLK55, CLK55, CLK63 and many stock W211 E55's. I think this tank ia capable of low 12's. I will post all the time slips this pm.
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12-13-2006, 06:49 PM
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...........unfortunately everything Kleemann costs quite a bit. Best way to get an idea is to go through a Kleemann dealer. I am not saying this to be evasive. The cost of the parts are uniform but the installation costs can vary widely. No, the ECU fiasco is not just a loss of the Kleemann programming. It involves placement of a load limit in the ECU preventing you from additional HP and torque gains. Unfortunately if your car has been stock, you may not know if you have the problem. Lets just say that this problem is worse than being raped by an angry ape. Paying to get the Kleemann program put back is not relevant since there is no charge. If you have this ECU problem, you will have such a problem on your hands that paying for a Kleemann ECU reflash will be nothing. You will wellcome it the way you would a super model to your bed.
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...........unfortunately everything Kleemann costs quite a bit. Best way to get an idea is to go through a Kleemann dealer. I am not saying this to be evasive. The cost of the parts are uniform but the installation costs can vary widely. No, the ECU fiasco is not just a loss of the Kleemann programming. It involves placement of a load limit in the ECU preventing you from additional HP and torque gains. Unfortunately if your car has been stock, you may not know if you have the problem. Lets just say that this problem is worse than being raped by an angry ape. Paying to get the Kleemann program put back is not relevant since there is no charge. If you have this ECU problem, you will have such a problem on your hands that paying for a Kleemann ECU reflash will be nothing. You will wellcome it the way you would a super model to your bed.
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Will the ECU issue be resolved by the Kleeman installers when it goes in or is it something I have to look out for and get resolved should it occur? I'm guessing that going from stock to modded, my only way to know if Ive got the issue would be a dyno showing less HP/torque than what should be there based on what they install?
12-14-2006, 12:05 AM
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I'm trying to get in touch with Mercedes of Sarasota, they're the closest Kleeman dealer, just having some difficulty with that.
Will the ECU issue be resolved by the Kleeman installers when it goes in or is it something I have to look out for and get resolved should it occur? I'm guessing that going from stock to modded, my only way to know if Ive got the issue would be a dyno showing less HP/torque than what should be there based on what they install?
Will the ECU issue be resolved by the Kleeman installers when it goes in or is it something I have to look out for and get resolved should it occur? I'm guessing that going from stock to modded, my only way to know if Ive got the issue would be a dyno showing less HP/torque than what should be there based on what they install?
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You should definitely do research before doing any mods. One of the best kleemann installers is C2 design and they are located in Tampa. www.c2dusa.com
I'll take a second look though, thanks.
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Ted, how do you launch your G? Do you rev it up with a foot on the brake? And do you just stomp and go or do you force it to shift at certain points with the +/-?
12-14-2006, 09:55 PM
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