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2013 GL450 (traded for 2015 Escalade), 2012 Corvette, 2014 Ford Fusion, Previous: 2007 GL450, 2011
Off to the Lexus dealer I go! Ha. You are right most problems are dealer problems. With as much “STUFF” on the GL vs. Camry I would expect a few more issues. I guess it’s all about the Dealer and how they handle it. I have a close friend whose wife has an E 320 and has high praise for my local dealer. I guess it’s going to me a 70K dice roll!
ALL vehicles are a dice roll.........70K does not guarantee you a flawless car........it does mean there might be a higher probability that the car will be of higher quality and have FEWER issues than cars costing less. The common factor is mass production and the concern for the "bottom line." My 450 is the finest vehicle, in all respects, that I have owned.........the 70K factor is clearly evident. However, I have no doubts that some electronic control board or module costing very little and mass manufactured somewhere in Asia could cause me great grief
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Well.....I stopped by the Lexus Dealer......not much chance of a LX this year PLUS.....they *()*&_ me off .......so....all of those LEXUS vibs...went Poof!! I could be in my GL Wed if the dealer trade works and the unit wasn't sold.....if not....still waiting on a Dec 11 build date!
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Off to the Lexus dealer I go! Ha. You are right most problems are dealer problems. With as much “STUFF” on the GL vs. Camry I would expect a few more issues. I guess it’s all about the Dealer and how they handle it. I have a close friend whose wife has an E 320 and has high praise for my local dealer. I guess it’s going to me a 70K dice roll!
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Well.....I stopped by the Lexus Dealer......not much chance of a LX this year PLUS.....they *()*&_ me off .......so....all of those LEXUS vibs...went Poof!! I could be in my GL Wed if the dealer trade works and the unit wasn't sold.....if not....still waiting on a Dec 11 build date!
12/11 build date is not too far away...hang in there!
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2004 RX330, 2008 Scion xB, 2001 Honda Insight Hybrid, 2010 Toyot Prius v ATP
It's truly a shame when a person's impressions about a cars quality and utility end up being based on a crappy dealership or salesman. It was nearly my experience at Schumacher Mercedes in Scottsdale, and then I went to Phoenix Motor Company to buy. Then my service experience at PMC turned sour, so I went to Schumacher's service and had a great experience. Neither one of these guys engineered, designed or built my car.
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#1 rule on selling a vehicle…never NEVER knocks the competition…just tell my why you think yours is better. They almost acted if they were doing me a favor. When I walked in the Mercedes dealership today the first voice I heard was the Sales manger and owner. I felt like I was dealing with a friend, this is the same guy that I offered 1K over invoice he said he’d take $500. Outside a fund raiser was going on for Ronald McDonald house, and that didn’t hurt!! It felt like the right place to do business!!
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#1 rule on selling a vehicle…never NEVER knocks the competition…just tell my why you think yours is better. They almost acted if they were doing me a favor. When I walked in the Mercedes dealership today the first voice I heard was the Sales manger and owner. I felt like I was dealing with a friend, this is the same guy that I offered 1K over invoice he said he’d take $500. Outside a fund raiser was going on for Ronald McDonald house, and that didn’t hurt!! It felt like the right place to do business!!
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I do have to say how surprised I am that your Toyota pickup was the least reliable. The standard cab 2-wheel drive 5-speed Toyota pickup truck has been one of the most reliable, longest-lived vehicles on the road ever, discounting specially treated antiques. If you ever watch a show on BBC America called "Top Gear," you'll see one they burned, crushed, wrecked, flooded, and buried which is still running and working (and it was very used when they bought it!) Did you buy it new?
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I bought it brand new. It was an 1986 4cyl 5spd 4x4 reg cab. It had body rust after three years. I had to replace the clutch and rear synchonizer around 60k miles (no reverse.) I had repeated burnt out tail/brake lights (1-2/yr.) I even had two broken lug bolts. There was also an issue with the control panel, but I quite remember the particulars. I got rid of it a 87k miles, and replaced it with a Chevy S10 V6 5spd which went 127k miles with only two problems - vent fan around 100k & the tranny had a TSB for a zirc for the idler which started to chatter around 50k. I replaced that with a Ford F150 V6 5spd and had only a bad electric window switch before I replaced it at 76K miles. I replaced that with a Dodge Ram V8 5spd auto and had no problems. So, I'm a firm believer that a "brand" or particular model may improve your odds a getting an error free vehicle, but every car is different and that's what warranties are for. I have 51 month lease on my GL, so I'll be on my own (without a warranty) for 3 months before I turn it in.
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My best buying experiences were at my local Lexus dealer - which is probably why they're ranked #1 in customer satisfaction among Lexus dealers.
It's truly a shame when a person's impressions about a cars quality and utility end up being based on a crappy dealership or salesman. It was nearly my experience at Schumacher Mercedes in Scottsdale, and then I went to Phoenix Motor Company to buy. Then my service experience at PMC turned sour, so I went to Schumacher's service and had a great experience. Neither one of these guys engineered, designed or built my car.
It's truly a shame when a person's impressions about a cars quality and utility end up being based on a crappy dealership or salesman. It was nearly my experience at Schumacher Mercedes in Scottsdale, and then I went to Phoenix Motor Company to buy. Then my service experience at PMC turned sour, so I went to Schumacher's service and had a great experience. Neither one of these guys engineered, designed or built my car.
Ok, if I am totally honest, I visited a MB dealer in Fremont, CA that were total jerks, too. Didn't stop me from buy the GL, just stopped me from buying from THEM. 2 other Mercedes dealers treated me great.
I would buy another Lexus in a heartbeat if they had the right truck for me. But I will never go back to the dealer I had such a bad experience with.
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GL450, 99 Road King
Dealer trade completed…..Truck will bring my new GL to Bakersfield tomorrow morning…..and I should have it by late in the day. I called Calchrome and have a 10am appointment Wed for a wheel exchange!![Smilie](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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I can't wait to hear about it!
I guess my dealer doesn't use calchrome as my wait for my wheel exch is 1-2 months! boo hoo!
You MUST post photos of the wheels so I can be jealous and cry even more!
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'07 GL 450, '02 S 80 T6
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I guess my dealer doesn't use calchrome as my wait for my wheel exch is 1-2 months!
If you want chrome so bad, you can have my 18 inch wheels for your 21 inch wheels. I will even pay for chroming of the 18
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CalChrome is an exchange shop. So you go in, they take your wheels off and put on same style wheels that are chromed. Since you have a 550, I am guessing they don't have too many wheels available for exchange, hence, the wait.
If you want chrome so bad, you can have my 18 inch wheels for your 21 inch wheels. I will even pay for chroming of the 18![Big Grin](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
If you want chrome so bad, you can have my 18 inch wheels for your 21 inch wheels. I will even pay for chroming of the 18
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They were a great dealership when they were Claridge. Bought a porche, 2 bimmers and my 97 E320 from them (which I still have). A class act. I believe the current owners also run the MB dealership in LV who I don't have much regard for either when I tried to discuss a deal on the phone. Lower level folks were great. The senior mangement were very arrogant. NJ can probably comment a lot better than I on the treatment he gets from FJ.
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They were a great dealership when they were Claridge. Bought a porche, 2 bimmers and my 97 E320 from them (which I still have). A class act. I believe the current owners also run the MB dealership in LV who I don't have much regard for either when I tried to discuss a deal on the phone. Lower level folks were great. The senior mangement were very arrogant. NJ can probably comment a lot better than I on the treatment he gets from FJ.
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GL450, 99 Road King
'Twas the night before GL, when all through the house
Not a creature was stirring, not even a mouse;
The aerowings had been ordered UPS special care,
in hopes that Formymerecedes would soon deliver here;
the dogs were nestled all snug in their beds,
While visions of car rides dancing in their heads;
and mamma in her 'nightie, and I in me in my shorts,
A wink of her eye and a twist of her head,
soon gave me to know I had nothing to dread;
I awoke and to the window I flew like a flash,
Tore open the shutters and threw up the sash.
The moon on the breast of the new-fallen snow
Gave the luster of mid-day to objects below,
When, what to my wondering eyes should appear,
A new Black GL450 ready to stir!!!
Not a creature was stirring, not even a mouse;
The aerowings had been ordered UPS special care,
in hopes that Formymerecedes would soon deliver here;
the dogs were nestled all snug in their beds,
While visions of car rides dancing in their heads;
and mamma in her 'nightie, and I in me in my shorts,
A wink of her eye and a twist of her head,
soon gave me to know I had nothing to dread;
I awoke and to the window I flew like a flash,
Tore open the shutters and threw up the sash.
The moon on the breast of the new-fallen snow
Gave the luster of mid-day to objects below,
When, what to my wondering eyes should appear,
A new Black GL450 ready to stir!!!
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'Twas the night before GL, when all through the house
Not a creature was stirring, not even a mouse;
The aerowings had been ordered UPS special care,
in hopes that Formymerecedes would soon deliver here;
the dogs were nestled all snug in their beds,
While visions of car rides dancing in their heads;
and mamma in her 'nightie, and I in me in my shorts,
A wink of her eye and a twist of her head,
soon gave me to know I had nothing to dread;
I awoke and to the window I flew like a flash,
Tore open the shutters and threw up the sash.
The moon on the breast of the new-fallen snow
Gave the luster of mid-day to objects below,
When, what to my wondering eyes should appear,
A new Black GL450 ready to stir!!!![Smilie](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Not a creature was stirring, not even a mouse;
The aerowings had been ordered UPS special care,
in hopes that Formymerecedes would soon deliver here;
the dogs were nestled all snug in their beds,
While visions of car rides dancing in their heads;
and mamma in her 'nightie, and I in me in my shorts,
A wink of her eye and a twist of her head,
soon gave me to know I had nothing to dread;
I awoke and to the window I flew like a flash,
Tore open the shutters and threw up the sash.
The moon on the breast of the new-fallen snow
Gave the luster of mid-day to objects below,
When, what to my wondering eyes should appear,
A new Black GL450 ready to stir!!!
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We have talent on this forum beyond our greatest expectations...:-)
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'07 GL 450, '02 S 80 T6
Originally Posted by triggca
'Twas the night before GL, when all through the house
Not a creature was stirring, not even a mouse;
The aerowings had been ordered UPS special care,
in hopes that Formymerecedes would soon deliver here;
the dogs were nestled all snug in their beds,
While visions of car rides dancing in their heads;
and mamma in her 'nightie, and I in me in my shorts,
A wink of her eye and a twist of her head,
soon gave me to know I had nothing to dread;
I awoke and to the window I flew like a flash,
Tore open the shutters and threw up the sash.
The moon on the breast of the new-fallen snow
Gave the luster of mid-day to objects below,
When, what to my wondering eyes should appear,
A new Black GL450 ready to stir!!!![Smilie](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Not a creature was stirring, not even a mouse;
The aerowings had been ordered UPS special care,
in hopes that Formymerecedes would soon deliver here;
the dogs were nestled all snug in their beds,
While visions of car rides dancing in their heads;
and mamma in her 'nightie, and I in me in my shorts,
A wink of her eye and a twist of her head,
soon gave me to know I had nothing to dread;
I awoke and to the window I flew like a flash,
Tore open the shutters and threw up the sash.
The moon on the breast of the new-fallen snow
Gave the luster of mid-day to objects below,
When, what to my wondering eyes should appear,
A new Black GL450 ready to stir!!!
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