GL Class (X164) 2007-2012: GL320CDI, GL420CDI, GL450, GL550

Which engine oil and filter for 2008 GL320 CDI

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old Mar 7, 2009 | 03:23 PM
  #1  
anb957's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 39
Likes: 0
From: Denver, CO
2008 GL320CDI
Which engine oil and filter for 2008 GL320 CDI

The mercedes manual specifies a 229.51 compliant oil and lists 3 for the CDI. It also states that you must use a "fleece" oil filter.

Mobil 1 ESP M 5W-40
Valvoline SynPower MST 5W-30
ELF Solaris LSX 5W-30

My question is can I use the following available at autohausaz.com.

Elf TOTAL Quartz INEO MC3 5W30 for $36.42 for 5 qts--It is 229.51 compliant and fully synthetic.

They list a Mann oil filter for $11.30

Obviously I would prefer to use the MB listed oils and a filter from the dealer, but if the autohaus stuff is just as good, I will go with it.
Reply
Old Mar 7, 2009 | 04:45 PM
  #2  
Fourdiesel's Avatar
Super Member
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 711
Likes: 11
From: NW corner of CONUS
2008 GL 320 CDI, 2004 VW V10 Touareg TDI
Elf Solaris LSX is an old designation. It may have been superseded by the Total Quartz stuff listed. Check with a knowledgeable Elf supplier. The fact that it states on the bottle(s) that it meets 229.51 is important. The word 'compliant' vs 'meets' may be critical.

I have NEVER found a fleece oil filter for the 320 CDI engine. I even got the dealer to take one off the shelf for me and I opened the box and looked at it. It was NOT a fleece filter. Use the Mann filter.
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2009 | 12:32 AM
  #3  
dgiturbo's Avatar
Super Member
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 898
Likes: 9
From: Woodstock, IL
His 2019 RAM Cummins Turbo Diesel Laramie; Her's 2007 ML320 CDI P3; Mine BMW R1200R
I personally stick with 9 quarts of Mobil 1 ESP and a dealer filter. Never had an issue in 47000 miles.
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2009 | 02:11 PM
  #4  
anb957's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 39
Likes: 0
From: Denver, CO
2008 GL320CDI
dgiturbo...

where do you source the ESP Mobil?
and how much does it cost?

I presume you are paying about $18 for the dealer filter or have you found a better supplier?
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2009 | 02:12 PM
  #5  
anb957's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 39
Likes: 0
From: Denver, CO
2008 GL320CDI
fourdiesel...thanks. I will check with Elf. Would prefer to use the elf oil as it can be delivered to my door with free shipping from autohausaz.
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2009 | 02:48 PM
  #6  
Danno4x4's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 405
Likes: 1
From: Scottsdale, AZ
2007 GL320 CDI, 2001 TJ Rockcrawler, 2005 Scoobie STI
ANB...

That is the very same stuff I use... From the same supplier as well.

Elf and Total are the same company. They merged back in 2000. In some cases they maintained separate brands, but Elf Solaris LSX and Total Quartz INEO MC3 is the same oil packaged and sold as two different brands...

Also the Mann filter from Autohaus is the same one that you would get from the dealer... I bought both and they are exactly the same down to the shiny MB parts holographic sticker on the box.
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2009 | 03:52 PM
  #7  
dgiturbo's Avatar
Super Member
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 898
Likes: 9
From: Woodstock, IL
His 2019 RAM Cummins Turbo Diesel Laramie; Her's 2007 ML320 CDI P3; Mine BMW R1200R
This link will take you to AV Lubricants. They have a pretty good selection of Mobil1 oils. As for the filter, I do pay around $18.00. Will check around next time if there is a better deal, time permitting.
Reply
Old Mar 9, 2009 | 04:11 AM
  #8  
stickygreen's Avatar
Super Member
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 597
Likes: 1
From: Monterey, CA
'97 E320
I personally stick with 9 quarts of Mobil 1 ESP and a dealer filter. Never had an issue in 47000 miles.
Is this with the factory recommended 10k mile OCI's? Any idea what dealers charge for the 5w40 ESP?
Reply
MB World Stories

The Best of Mercedes & AMG

story-0

Six Gift Ideas Your AMG Loving Dad or Grad Will Cherish

 
story-1

7 Craziest Things AMG Gas Ever Built

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

New Electric Mercedes-AMG GT 4-Door Coupe Unveiled: 10 Things You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Mar 9, 2009 | 06:40 AM
  #9  
scottybdiving's Avatar
Super Member
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 603
Likes: 0
From: Spicewood, TX
2008 GL 320, 2007 Silverado LTZ C3500 Duramax Turbo Diesel
Originally Posted by stickygreen
Is this with the factory recommended 10k mile OCI's? Any idea what dealers charge for the 5w40 ESP?
My dealer charges $6.25.
Reply
Old Mar 9, 2009 | 10:30 PM
  #10  
stickygreen's Avatar
Super Member
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 597
Likes: 1
From: Monterey, CA
'97 E320
My dealer charges $6.25.
Wow, that's $0.02 less per quart than WalMart charges for regular Mobil 1.
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 07:48 AM
  #11  
scottybdiving's Avatar
Super Member
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 603
Likes: 0
From: Spicewood, TX
2008 GL 320, 2007 Silverado LTZ C3500 Duramax Turbo Diesel
Originally Posted by stickygreen
Wow, that's $0.02 less per quart than WalMart charges for regular Mobil 1.
Actually, that was when I bought a couple quarts from their parts counter last summer. I just looked at my last service invoice from Nov '08, and they charged 5.90/qt.
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 03:59 PM
  #12  
ima55r2's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 1,436
Likes: 11
From: Treasure Coast
2018 Mclaren 720s, 2021 Aston Martin DBX
I met a Motul rep and now there is a Motul 5w30 that is 229.51. Mostly available at performance shops, and not retail outlets. http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/m...r-p-46223.html
Reply
Old Apr 6, 2009 | 12:49 PM
  #13  
scottybdiving's Avatar
Super Member
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 603
Likes: 0
From: Spicewood, TX
2008 GL 320, 2007 Silverado LTZ C3500 Duramax Turbo Diesel
Just bought some at my dealer today. $6.79 / qt, up a few cents. Still cheaper than any other place I have found when you factor shipping.
Reply
Old Apr 6, 2009 | 06:51 PM
  #14  
CGMKCM's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
From: Central N.C.
08 GL320
http://www.schaefferoil.com/supreme_9000.html
Another option that is a little over $6.00 per quart. I have been using it in all my vehicles including my ATVs.
So far I am very happy with the results.
Reply
Old Apr 6, 2009 | 10:42 PM
  #15  
scottybdiving's Avatar
Super Member
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 603
Likes: 0
From: Spicewood, TX
2008 GL 320, 2007 Silverado LTZ C3500 Duramax Turbo Diesel
Originally Posted by CGMKCM
http://www.schaefferoil.com/supreme_9000.html
Another option that is a little over $6.00 per quart. I have been using it in all my vehicles including my ATVs.
So far I am very happy with the results.
There are many very good lubricants, but only a couple that meet the 229.51 spec. I use Rotella in all my other diesels and have never had an engine issue. It meets the requirements of my Silverado's specs. That goes for our entire fleet of Fords and Chevy's. However, I will use a an oil that meets MB's specs at least until the warranty is out.
Reply
Old Apr 6, 2009 | 10:45 PM
  #16  
BETO's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 141
Likes: 0
From: LAS VEGAS
ML500
wow, you are lucky.
They charged me $7/quart last time, in January. But I guess it's cheaper than buying online and shipping, and faster.
Now you can get the Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel Truck 5W-40 for $8/quart.
I get the Mann filter for $11.30 from Autohaus Arizona, free delivery on orders over $50, and most of the time is next business day.
Reply
Old Apr 7, 2009 | 08:26 AM
  #17  
Fifth Ring's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,513
Likes: 0
C32 AMG
Originally Posted by BETO
wow, you are lucky.
They charged me $7/quart last time, in January. But I guess it's cheaper than buying online and shipping, and faster.
Now you can get the Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel Truck 5W-40 for $8/quart.
I get the Mann filter for $11.30 from Autohaus Arizona, free delivery on orders over $50, and most of the time is next business day.
Maybe it's BS, but the 229.51 spec is created for engines with particulate filters. I have to assume that there is something in the formulation that is beneficial or necessary to the proper function of the particulate filters. I would not just switch to a good oil because it is specific to turbo-diesel-truck engines. At least not while the warranty is in effect.
Reply
Old Apr 7, 2009 | 10:42 AM
  #18  
CGMKCM's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
From: Central N.C.
08 GL320
Originally Posted by CGMKCM
http://www.schaefferoil.com/supreme_9000.html
Another option that is a little over $6.00 per quart. I have been using it in all my vehicles including my ATVs.
So far I am very happy with the results.
Just for clarification, this oil meets and exceeds 229.51.
Reply
Old Apr 7, 2009 | 11:01 AM
  #19  
ima55r2's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 1,436
Likes: 11
From: Treasure Coast
2018 Mclaren 720s, 2021 Aston Martin DBX
Originally Posted by CGMKCM
Just for clarification, this oil meets and exceeds 229.51.
Isn't 229.51 is a newer spec than the 229.1/.2? Schaeffer might be okay but there are other choices available that do meet it.

"Supreme 9000 Racing Oil SAE 5W-30 meets and exceeds the following specifications and manufacturers’ requirements: MIL-PRF- 46152E, CID A-A-52039B, API Service Classification SM/CF, ILSAC GF-4, ACEA A1/B1, ACEA A5/B5-04, JIS K 2202, Ford WWS M2C929-A, General Motors 6049M, General Motors 4718M, Chrysler MS 6395, Daimler Chrysler MB 229.1 and MB 229.2, TD-9003."
Reply
Old Apr 7, 2009 | 02:35 PM
  #20  
BETO's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 141
Likes: 0
From: LAS VEGAS
ML500
The Mobil One Turbo Diesel Truck 5W-40 Meets CJ-4, CI-4, and CH-4 which are equivalent to 229.51 and must be used in conjuction with fleece oil filters which the stealer never used, they always used the paper filter.
According to the Factory Approved Service Products dated April 2007 that came with my truck on page 4 that's what they need to use or the MB Limited Warranty won't cover any engine damage.
After three MB trucks, and many oil changes performed at home, I learned that as long as I used Mobil 1 Synthetic oil and OEM oil filter the engines can take it.
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/...uck_5W-40.aspx
Reply
Old Apr 7, 2009 | 03:06 PM
  #21  
CGMKCM's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
From: Central N.C.
08 GL320
Originally Posted by ima55r2
Isn't 229.51 is a newer spec than the 229.1/.2? Schaeffer might be okay but there are other choices available that do meet it.

"Supreme 9000 Racing Oil SAE 5W-30 meets and exceeds the following specifications and manufacturers’ requirements: MIL-PRF- 46152E, CID A-A-52039B, API Service Classification SM/CF, ILSAC GF-4, ACEA A1/B1, ACEA A5/B5-04, JIS K 2202, Ford WWS M2C929-A, General Motors 6049M, General Motors 4718M, Chrysler MS 6395, Daimler Chrysler MB 229.1 and MB 229.2, TD-9003."
Schaffers clearly meets or exceeds MB standards in the 5W-40 viscosity. 229.51 is low ash with anti wear additives. My Point in posting was to give options other than Dealer supplied Mobile 1. In the synthetic oil world Mobile one is not a top tiered brand. It meets the loose definition of synthetic but the base stock is petroleum.

Supreme 9000 SAE 5W-40 is formulated to meet and exceeds the following
manufacturers’ specifications and requirements: Military Specifications MIL-PRF-
2104G and A-A-52306A, API Service Classifications CJ-4/CI-4/SM, CI-4 Plus
and CI-4/CH-4/SM, Global Specification DHD-1, JASO DH-1 and DH-2, Mack
EO-O Premium Plus-07, Caterpillar, Caterpillar ECF-1-a, ECF-2 ECF-3:
Cummins CES 20081; Detroit Diesel 7SE 270, Detroit Diesel Power Guard Oil
Specification 93K218, Detroit Diesel Series 2000/4000 Category 1 MTU
Category Type II, Navistar, ACEA E-7-04, Duetz, Mercedes-Benz MB228.3
MB228.5, MB228.31 MB228.51, MB 229.1, MB229.3, MB229.5, MB229.51;
Volvo VDS-4, MAN 271, MAN 3275, MTU Oil Category Type 2, Scania LD-F and
LDF-2, Inveco, DAF and Volkswagen 502.00, 505.00, 505.01.
Reply
Old Mar 13, 2019 | 06:55 PM
  #22  
charjan's Avatar
Newbie
 
Joined: Mar 2019
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
ML320
Did the original question about oil filter get sabotaged? It is interesting that Sprinter diesel requires fleece oil filters, but the ML320 bluetec diesel (relatively the same engine) requires a shorter oil filter that does not come in fleece, only pleated paper. I went to Napa Auto to confirm Mann is different for the Sprinter and indeed is fleece, but for the ML diesel, it is a different Mann filter, shorter and pleated paper construction. Does anyone know the reasoning for fleece for one diesel and not the other when they are the same except for length?
Reply
Old Mar 14, 2019 | 05:22 PM
  #23  
lkchris's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 6,192
Likes: 242
From: Albuquerque
'10 CL550, '12 GL550
Originally Posted by charjan
Did the original question about oil filter get sabotaged? It is interesting that Sprinter diesel requires fleece oil filters, but the ML320 bluetec diesel (relatively the same engine) requires a shorter oil filter that does not come in fleece, only pleated paper. I went to Napa Auto to confirm Mann is different for the Sprinter and indeed is fleece, but for the ML diesel, it is a different Mann filter, shorter and pleated paper construction. Does anyone know the reasoning for fleece for one diesel and not the other when they are the same except for length?
Nothing you’ve related above means the filter you get at Mercedes dealer isn’t fleece.
Reply

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:24 AM.

story-0
Six Gift Ideas Your AMG Loving Dad or Grad Will Cherish

Slideshow: Six gift ideas your AMG loving dad or grad will cherish.

By | 2026-06-03 17:26:18


VIEW MORE
story-1
7 Craziest Things AMG Gas Ever Built

Slideshow: Sometimes AMG builds fast sedans. Other times, it builds twin-turbo V12 land missiles and six-wheeled off-road monsters.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-26 17:59:58


VIEW MORE
story-2
New Electric Mercedes-AMG GT 4-Door Coupe Unveiled: 10 Things You Need to Know

Slideshow: Mercedes-AMG's new electric GT 4-Door Coupe trades combustion for software, synthetic noise, and more than 1,100 horsepower.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-20 20:08:15


VIEW MORE
story-3
6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

Slideshow: Not every Mercedes design becomes timeless, some feel stuck in the era they came from.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:09:07


VIEW MORE
story-4
Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

Slideshow: Yes, Mercedes built manual cars, and some of them are far more interesting than you'd expect.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-02 12:36:58


VIEW MORE
story-5
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

Slideshow: A one-of-one U.S.-spec Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren Roadster became even rarer after a factory-backed transformation at McLaren's headquarters.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 11:19:28


VIEW MORE
story-6
8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

Slideshow: Before curves took over, Mercedes mastered the art of the straight line, and some of those shapes still look right today.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-25 12:05:49


VIEW MORE
story-7
Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

Slideshow: The 190E Evolution II shows how a homologation necessity became a six-figure collector icon.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-22 17:53:47


VIEW MORE
story-8
Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

Slideshow: Mercedes is turning one of its core nameplates electric, and the details show just how serious this shift is.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:58:06


VIEW MORE
story-9
Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

Slideshow: Faster charging, longer range, and a controversial steer-by-wire system define the latest evolution of Mercedes-Benz EQS.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-15 10:35:34


VIEW MORE