Reliability
Just saw this on the other forum and looks to be a good upgrade if you are looking to keep the truck for a while. Don't think it is worth it just for Bluetooth music streaming but hey you never know..
https://avinusa.com/mercedes-benz-ml...on-system.html
I sure wouldn't mind replacing the head unit. I hate the COMAND interface, along with its ridiculous MP3 unit. I had no idea this was an option.
I sure wouldn't mind replacing the head unit. I hate the COMAND interface, along with its ridiculous MP3 unit. I had no idea this was an option.
Maybe the MB GPS is more reliable. Before I plunk down the cash for the unit - $600 + $150 for the HK interface + $15 for the GPS interface - I'd want to understand better how it works.
I like the HK audio in my truck, but man - that head unit is an insult.
Maybe the MB GPS is more reliable. Before I plunk down the cash for the unit - $600 + $150 for the HK interface + $15 for the GPS interface - I'd want to understand better how it works.
I like the HK audio in my truck, but man - that head unit is an insult.
Their support seemed friendly and helpful, though.
Boy, I'd love to be able to store my music on my phone. I jumped through hoops to pack MP3's on a CD, but still have to use the clunky COMAND interface. Can't even fast forward or rewind a song, and if I restart a song, it doesn't update the track title when it goes on to the next. My kids like to use Spotify, but have to go through the Aux connector. We're reaching levels of retardedness that shouldn't even be possible.
I think there are two wins here.
1. You can probably connect via Bluetooth audio and just play off your phone's playlist.
2. GPS - curious what their GPS system is based off? Garmin or Tom Tom. I am a Garmin user from day one but anything will be an upgrade from MB'a clunky GPS interface.
The Android based systems have a ton of functionality - they operate just like your cell phone. I believe they can also operate as a wifi hotspot if you add them to your cellular service plan. I know also are able to use your cell phone's wireless connection to get access to the Internet.
Because the new headunit is internet connected, it means you get Google maps for navigation - and all other google apps. You can download and run any apps you want - Torque is a popular one. You can stream music or video from the internet, or you can stream from your phone. Your kids can play games and watch video.
The new units connect to your existing GPS antenna. Not the GPS system - that is part of the COMAND head unit.
What you lose is your satellite radio, and I think you also lose the ability to change the time on your dashboard clock. The lack of satellite radio and general laziness is why I haven't pulled the trigger...
Fortunately I'm uninterested in satellite radio. But the clock adjustment is a weird thing to mess up. Do you have sources for further research?
The Best of Mercedes & AMG
that will bring up a ton of threads about head unit replacement...
http://rennlist.com/forums/porsche-c...ll-review.html
The market may have settled. Looks like Avin is trying to recover from prior bad press.
Some people have mentioned firm ware updates from MB for the comand head unit. That's 100% crap too! There is NONE, nor will there ever be. The version of this comand went to pasture in 2012 for the GL series. MB is NOT spending any more time on going backwards on this. FAKE NEWS!! Also some have reported going into the comand setting and activating the music Bluetooth as well. Again FAKE NEWS!! On some head units yes, you can go into the comand and change settings but it will revert back to the default settings once you turn the vehicle off.
I've tried aftermarket made in china crap and it too does not work. Either the phone or the comand does not recognize it. Thus it does not work. I've tried VW and Audi cables. Again got no where with it. I've ordered current cables from MB, no go on that too!
My mind processes this as a WTF moment! I've just spent some unworldly amount of money on a vehicle that is so far behind the times on technology, I should have had my brain examined when I bought it. At the time it was a no brainer so to speak. I could have cared less. But as my kids put it. It's an old farts car and some other words which I won't post. They gave for Christmas this year a BT devise that plugs into the power outlet and I tune my radio to a station. And that's as far as I've gone with it. Yes it works but I've not done any thing else other than using it a few miles down the road.
When it's time for the Benz to retire, it won't be another one.
This entire saga is a egg on Mercedes face as far as I'm concerned. Nor do I think Mercedes cares. My other vehicles are older and both have Bluetooth capabilities for music and the phone. Why Mercedes had the lack of technology is beyond my thinking. Marketing, R&D, ect... I'm sure played a huge roll in this.
As I see it any automaker can't sit idly by and play wait and see game. The Korean's are literally kicking some serious **** on this! Granted you get what you pay for. But this technology is available to everyone why is it not being deployed?
Like I said earlier, this just boggles my mind paying this kind of money and it's lacking the basic tech stuff. I listen to my SAT radio most of the time. So the BT of music was not really a show stopper at the time of purchase. Had I had to do it all over again it would not have been the Benz!
My grand kids like the DVD player in the back seat so they can watch movies, by the time they realize the full scope of things, the Benz will be long gone and then it's someone else's issue.
With an 07, is there actually a doohickey I can plug into the weird little connector in the secret pocket of the armrest and I can bluetooth stream music?
Or not?
When it's time for the Benz to retire, it won't be another one.

You know, I always had such mixed emotions about the GL. Then I took it on a two-day offroad clinic in Anza Borrego. Highlight was when they asked for a volunteer for recovery training. I ran that GL straight up a dune, stopping just over the sharp lip, on maybe a 20 degree slope, resting comfortably on a pad of sand right about under the middle pillar. I stepped out onto the sand, level with the sill. The instructor and I were surprised to agree that I could easily have made it had I not purposefully stopped.
Challenge that GL to not let you down in adverse conditions, and it won't be an old fart's car anymore. Be like most losers insisting on ONLY THE BEST for their GL-CLASS and yeah, I can see why you'd be rankled.
Last edited by eric_in_sd; Jan 11, 2017 at 03:33 PM.
The OEM dongle has the old iPod hook up as well as the 3.5 plug that goes in the ear bud jack.
The VISEEO dongle you can purchase on Amazon or eBay. The same dongle fits the VW, Audi outlet. Yes, you can Bluetooth music through it. Although not the best solution it does work.
If you have an outlet in your armrest console. I'm not up to speed on your year. I know Mercedes had some contraption that went into the console but that does not apply to the 2012. They had some other contraption for the BT that came along, but not sure of what it actually did either.
The OEM dongle has the old iPod hook up as well as the 3.5 plug that goes in the ear bud jack.
If you have an outlet in your armrest console. I'm not up to speed on your year. I know Mercedes had some contraption that went into the console but that does not apply to the 2012. They had some other contraption for the BT that came along, but not sure of what it actually did either.
So does this look like what's in your glove box? My 3.5mm plug (for Aux) is in the glove box.
Those stupid pucks cost like 0ver $200. I remember something also about them only being for Nokia phones, but maybe there's a later version.
And I see upthread that the Ipod jacks are only 09-12. Sigh.
Maybe I will get one of those Android tablet inserts. I tell ya, tho, I'm not super keen on a device that gets access to the CAN bus. I've heard more stories about people hacking car operating systems.
Thanks for all the info, guys.
Those stupid pucks cost like 0ver $200. I remember something also about them only being for Nokia phones, but maybe there's a later version.
And I see upthread that the Ipod jacks are only 09-12. Sigh.
Maybe I will get one of those Android tablet inserts. I tell ya, tho, I'm not super keen on a device that gets access to the CAN bus. I've heard more stories about people hacking car operating systems.
Thanks for all the info, guys.






