GL Class (X164) 2007-2012: GL320CDI, GL420CDI, GL450, GL550

2007 GL450 interior door pull bar/handle broke

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old 03-25-2024, 07:35 AM
  #26  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
texas008's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 264
Received 55 Likes on 50 Posts
2007 GL450
Originally Posted by eric_in_sd
It is glossy. I suspect ABS. @texas008 have you inspected carefully for type identification? If it is ABS, you can get cement for it at the hardware store.
haven't got a chance to do it, will inspect carefully for the type identification,
Old 03-26-2024, 08:31 AM
  #27  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
texas008's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 264
Received 55 Likes on 50 Posts
2007 GL450
Originally Posted by eric_in_sd
It is glossy. I suspect ABS. @texas008 have you inspected carefully for type identification? If it is ABS, you can get cement for it at the hardware store.
I checked again, could not find any marking on the black plastic.
Old 03-26-2024, 09:21 AM
  #28  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
eric_in_sd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Emmett, ID, USA
Posts: 2,657
Received 593 Likes on 499 Posts
2007 GL450
Originally Posted by texas008
I checked again, could not find any marking on the black plastic.
The plastic identifier would be near the part number.

Since your next step is to install a mechanical support, you might want to try ABS cement anyway. Just dab a little bit on some out of the way location and see if it fuses with the plastic as it hardens.
The following users liked this post:
texas008 (03-26-2024)
Old 03-26-2024, 09:52 AM
  #29  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
texas008's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 264
Received 55 Likes on 50 Posts
2007 GL450
thanks for the info. will try it.
ABS cement seems to be the purple solvent/glue that the plumber uses to connect pvc pipes/connectors
Old 03-26-2024, 10:17 AM
  #30  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
eric_in_sd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Emmett, ID, USA
Posts: 2,657
Received 593 Likes on 499 Posts
2007 GL450
Originally Posted by texas008
thanks for the info. will try it.
ABS cement seems to be the purple solvent/glue that the plumber uses to connect pvc pipes/connectors
No, those are two different things entirely.

ABS is typically black and is used for drain lines. PVC is typically white and is used for cold water supply lines (e.g. sprinklers). The purple is a primer that is used to "roughen" the surface of PVC prior to gluing. The only reason it is purple is to indicate that primer has been applied. ABS glue is black.

Incidentally, the V stands for vinyl. You can use PVC glue for many products that appear to be rubber or leather. I glued in a sprinkler line junction that was offset by about a half inch; no PVC fittings would work, but vinyl tubing did.
The following users liked this post:
texas008 (03-26-2024)
Old 03-26-2024, 10:46 AM
  #31  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
DennisG01's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Allentown, PA
Posts: 1,853
Received 277 Likes on 243 Posts
'08 GL 320 CDI
Originally Posted by texas008
thanks for the info. will try it.
ABS cement seems to be the purple solvent/glue that the plumber uses to connect pvc pipes/connectors
When you go to HD or Lowes, it will tell you right on the container if it works with ABS. No need to waste time researching
The following 2 users liked this post by DennisG01:
eric_in_sd (03-26-2024), texas008 (03-26-2024)
Old 03-27-2024, 09:32 AM
  #32  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
texas008's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 264
Received 55 Likes on 50 Posts
2007 GL450
Thanks for the info. about different glues for different plastic.
btw., I'm trying to seal off the water jet holes of a bathtub, since they are not working and not needed. The bathtub is made of thick creamy color plastic (is it acrylic?) and I'm planning to glue round pieces of rigid vinyl (wall protectors) to cover the jet holes. wondering which glue should I use? I could probably secure it using screws too, and seal the edge using water proof calking. Thanks a lot.
Old 03-27-2024, 12:00 PM
  #33  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
eric_in_sd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Emmett, ID, USA
Posts: 2,657
Received 593 Likes on 499 Posts
2007 GL450
Originally Posted by texas008
Thanks for the info. about different glues for different plastic.
btw., I'm trying to seal off the water jet holes of a bathtub, since they are not working and not needed. The bathtub is made of thick creamy color plastic (is it acrylic?) and I'm planning to glue round pieces of rigid vinyl (wall protectors) to cover the jet holes. wondering which glue should I use? I could probably secure it using screws too, and seal the edge using water proof calking. Thanks a lot.
Oh boy. Gluing unknown plastic is a nightmare; gluing two different plastics is waking up screaming and soaked with sweat.

You have to be scientific about it. Start with a hypothesis, e.g. "it is acrylic", and test that hypothesis.

I bet a far easier and quicker method would be to mechanically fasten, e.g. with screws, and seal with silicone caulk. Spa manufacturers may sell appropriate cover plates. A plate with a rubber gasket wouldn't be bad.
The following users liked this post:
texas008 (03-27-2024)
Old 03-27-2024, 12:50 PM
  #34  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
DennisG01's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Allentown, PA
Posts: 1,853
Received 277 Likes on 243 Posts
'08 GL 320 CDI
People paint acrylic bathtubs with epoxy paint - so you could certainly use marine (this is my field), 2-part epoxy to do it. Although getting that in small amounts is hard to do so it would be expensive. Polyester resin would be cheaper and work just as well. But you could really use just about anything halfway decent. Something like PC-11, 3M5200 or even some two-part epoxies available at HD/Lowe's. This will also stick to rigid vinyl pieces. Lightly sand both contact surfaces. Completely/fully tape the piece in it's spot - then use a razor knife and trace the perimeter to remove the piece. You know have a perfect "squish out" area to avoid a mess.
The following 2 users liked this post by DennisG01:
eric_in_sd (03-27-2024), texas008 (03-27-2024)
Old 05-22-2024, 09:59 AM
  #35  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
texas008's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 264
Received 55 Likes on 50 Posts
2007 GL450
Originally Posted by eric_in_sd
Oh boy. Gluing unknown plastic is a nightmare; gluing two different plastics is waking up screaming and soaked with sweat.

You have to be scientific about it. Start with a hypothesis, e.g. "it is acrylic", and test that hypothesis.

I bet a far easier and quicker method would be to mechanically fasten, e.g. with screws, and seal with silicone caulk. Spa manufacturers may sell appropriate cover plates. A plate with a rubber gasket wouldn't be bad.
Just found out a video made by Scotty Kilmer on how to glue broken plastic tabs on car parts. He used "K Tool international 90002 Q Bond Ultra Strong Adhesive Kit for Garages, Repair Shops and DIY, repair hard plastics/PVC/Metals"
available at Amazon for $14. will also use it to repair broken front grill.
seems very promising, will give it a try.
Old 05-22-2024, 08:01 PM
  #36  
Member
 
Sallad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 165
Received 38 Likes on 35 Posts
08 GL320 CDI
I've watched a bunch of his vids... pretty weird dude, but his vids can be interesting.
Old 05-23-2024, 02:25 PM
  #37  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
DennisG01's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Allentown, PA
Posts: 1,853
Received 277 Likes on 243 Posts
'08 GL 320 CDI
Originally Posted by texas008
Just found out a video made by Scotty Kilmer on how to glue broken plastic tabs on car parts. He used "K Tool international 90002 Q Bond Ultra Strong Adhesive Kit for Garages, Repair Shops and DIY, repair hard plastics/PVC/Metals"
available at Amazon for $14. will also use it to repair broken front grill.
seems very promising, will give it a try.
Looks like it's plain old Super Glue with just a powder thickener. Lots of household stuff can be used as thickeners, FYI. Baby powder, for example.

It's not as strong as what I mentioned, but may work just fine on the type of plastic you have.
The following users liked this post:
texas008 (05-24-2024)
Old 06-12-2024, 07:58 AM
  #38  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
texas008's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 264
Received 55 Likes on 50 Posts
2007 GL450
Got the handles fixed, with a very simple solution (1-inch wood screws).
The black plastic, although broken at certain locations (probably due to fatigue loading), is actually pretty strong and can hold tightly wood screws.
I went ahead strengthened all other three door handles, two of which have already developed cracks at the same location.




The following users liked this post:
eric_in_sd (06-12-2024)
Old 06-12-2024, 01:38 PM
  #39  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Max Blast's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 2,478
Received 599 Likes on 507 Posts
Now just one GL450 with EORP.
Originally Posted by texas008
Got the handles fixed, with a very simple solution (1-inch wood screws).
The black plastic, although broken at certain locations (probably due to fatigue loading), is actually pretty strong and can hold tightly wood screws.
I went ahead strengthened all other three door handles, two of which have already developed cracks at the same location.

sorry, I don’t want to dig through this wall of text to find out why they were broken in the first place, but were they broken off by someone replacing the rear shocks?
Old 06-12-2024, 02:03 PM
  #40  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
texas008's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 264
Received 55 Likes on 50 Posts
2007 GL450
Over the years that pull bars gradually became loose and squeaky.
Their structural strength comes only from these black plastic bars, which developed cracks due to repeated loading.
I'm surprised that I'm the only one reporting this issue on GL450.
Old 06-12-2024, 03:43 PM
  #41  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
eric_in_sd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Emmett, ID, USA
Posts: 2,657
Received 593 Likes on 499 Posts
2007 GL450
Originally Posted by texas008
I'm surprised that I'm the only one reporting this issue on GL450.
I also am surprised. I wonder if you got a bad batch of plastic, like they put a bunch of air bubbles in the injection moulds.
Old 06-12-2024, 04:41 PM
  #42  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Max Blast's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 2,478
Received 599 Likes on 507 Posts
Now just one GL450 with EORP.
Originally Posted by Max Blast
sorry, I don’t want to dig through this wall of text to find out why they were broken in the first place, but were they broken off by someone replacing the rear shocks?
wrong door, disregard my comment.
If this doesn’t work out just go looking at eBay/junkyards for a replacement door handle.
Old 06-13-2024, 07:58 PM
  #43  
Member
 
Sallad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 165
Received 38 Likes on 35 Posts
08 GL320 CDI
lame... you couldn't find three Robertsons screws, only two and a Torx?

haha

Kidding, glad you got it to work. And yes this is the first I've heard of this failure on these vehicles.
The following users liked this post:
texas008 (06-14-2024)

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.

Quick Reply: 2007 GL450 interior door pull bar/handle broke



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:28 PM.