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Old Jan 27, 2025 | 04:02 PM
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Funny exhaust smell

2011 GL550 with 90k miles .. new plugs and filters at 80k.. Got out of the GL today after running 50 miles of errands and the driver side exhaust has a burnt toast smell and it is definitely the exhaust smell itself while the passenger side has a little oil smell. When I changed the plugs everything looked great.. no engine codes or lights on?
Any thoughts or similiar experiences? Thanks Bill
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Old Jan 27, 2025 | 11:26 PM
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If you smell oil, it's likely burning oil. Valve stem seals go hard with age and leak oil into combustion chambers.
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Old Jan 28, 2025 | 11:16 AM
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I am concerned more about the burnt toast smell . I am going to hookup and read the voltage readings from the catalytic converters O2 sensors . I am concerned about the converters possibly blocking. Also the car has only been driven once in the last two weeks while I had Covid????
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Old Jan 28, 2025 | 02:19 PM
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Italian tuneup - then read codes. The cats about to be clogged, getting them really nice and hot and blowing the carbon out might rejuvenate them. Of course, if the core matrix is melted, that might be the smell.

That is of course that you don’t have any other significant mechanical damage going on that will grenade the engine at 6000 RPM.
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Old Jan 28, 2025 | 03:41 PM
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I wouldn't call burning oil a "funny" smell. Nor would it likely only come out of one exhaust pipe if the engine is burning oil.
Maybe some fluid or piece of plastic landed on the exhaust pipe. Generally, they will check/top off fluids when you bring the car in for service. It's possible they spilled something that landed on the exhaust pipe or manifold.
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Old Jan 28, 2025 | 09:15 PM
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I wouldn't call burning oil a "funny" smell. Nor would it likely only come out of one exhaust pipe if the engine is burning oil.
Maybe some fluid or piece of plastic landed on the exhaust pipe. Generally, they will check/top off fluids when you bring the car in for service. It's possible they spilled something that landed on the exhaust pipe or manifold.
I do all my own service and nothing has spilled ..thanks for thoughts. I was reading the O2 sensors tonight and strongly believe I have the start of Catalytic blockages… the outboard sides of the sensors are bouncing (voltage ) all over the place especially the driver side that has the funny burnt toast smell. I am going to try some catalytic converter cleaner and read the voltages again . Will publish the results thanks again
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Old Jan 28, 2025 | 10:04 PM
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Italian tuneup - then read codes. The cats about to be clogged, getting them really nice and hot and blowing the carbon out might rejuvenate them. Of course, if the core matrix is melted, that might be the smell.

That is of course that you don’t have any other significant mechanical damage going on that will grenade the engine at 6000 RPM.
No codes yet but definitely some bouncing O2 sensor voltages on the outboard side especially the driver side that has the burnt toast smell… this all came on suddenly ? Car was driven once in two weeks and the burning smell was the second drive in two weeks. No codes yet?
First going to go with a Moly product and than Cataclean later in the week. Will read the voltages on the sensors next week.
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Look for cat temperatures on your scan tool and maybe do a comparison with others?
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Look for cat temperatures on your scan tool and maybe do a comparison with others?
I have contacted a friend that I sold my 2008 GL550 to and he has the same scan tool.. he is going to check O2 sensor voltages and temp… Should know later tonight thanks again .
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Originally Posted by vesiadog
No codes yet but definitely some bouncing O2 sensor voltages on the outboard side especially the driver side that has the burnt toast smell… this all came on suddenly ? Car was driven once in two weeks and the burning smell was the second drive in two weeks. No codes yet?
First going to go with a Moly product and than Cataclean later in the week. Will read the voltages on the sensors next week.
I would not add the moly until after this issue is figured out. I do support something that can help clean the cats, something like a pea fuel additive and high rpm.

Generally the smell of bad cat is likened to eggs or sulphur. Burnt toast would be more likened to carbon, or oil issues.

You said the plugs were good, were they all dry?
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Old Jan 29, 2025 | 09:11 PM
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I would not add the moly until after this issue is figured out. I do support something that can help clean the cats, something like a pea fuel additive and high rpm.

Generally the smell of bad cat is likened to eggs or sulphur. Burnt toast would be more likened to carbon, or oil issues.

You said the plugs were good, were they all dry?
All plugs were close to perfect and replaced 10k miles ago. My older GL550 (friend owns it now) checked the O2’s today and they were practically identical to mine…. .9v on both inlet and the right outboard .600-700 but both cars bounce on the left side outboard from .1 to .600v
Watching some youtube videos I am going to run some cleaner and see if that stabilizes the outboard side .
Since I have barely ran the car for two weeks tomorrow I am also going to search for any rodent nest??? It would not be the first time in my garage that mice found a new home????
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Originally Posted by vesiadog
I have contacted a friend that I sold my 2008 GL550 to and he has the same scan tool.. he is going to check O2 sensor voltages and temp… Should know later tonight thanks again .
I have essentially the same on the W164 if you want another set of numbers to compare to.
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I have essentially the same on the W164 if you want another set of numbers to compare to.
How steady are your voltage on both catalytic converters after .. both of my before numbers are good. My converter combustion temps are 444C.
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How steady are your voltage on both catalytic converters after .. both of my before numbers are good. My converter combustion temps are 444C.
Ill check tomorrow and let you know.
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Ill check tomorrow and let you know.
Sorry its taken a few days. Here are screenshots of my ML550 data. Cat temps at 394 degrees C on both sides, noting a very hot day here with tempreture about 37 degrees C. Car was at operating temp after a drive and engine was running when the data was taken. There's a bit of double up in the data as they were taken from different screens that sometimes duplicate information. Hope this helps.
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Sorry its taken a few days. Here are screenshots of my ML550 data. Cat temps at 394 degrees C on both sides, noting a very hot day here with tempreture about 37 degrees C. Car was at operating temp after a drive and engine was running when the data was taken. There's a bit of double up in the data as they were taken from different screens that sometimes duplicate information. Hope this helps.
Thank you for all the readouts. The biggest difference with the readouts is the Cat temps..741 F vs 831 F… with mine being hotter. ??? thanks again for taking the time.
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Going south

Not going very well as a few predicted it might go south. On startup today it threw 5 codes
P0300…P0303 cylinder 3…P0304…P0306…P0307…
Hookup the Icarsoft and cleared them .. not coming back on yet but running very on the catalytic exhaust… let it high idle at 3000 rpm in the driveway and it reached over 1000 f …. definitely having catalytic issues… any thoughts… thinking of putting it on a lift tomorrow and putting a camera into the converter’s ????
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Just wondering now - if the cats are stuffed, you'd imagine:

High cat temperatures
Large variance between before and after O2 readings with the after cat reading should be stable and in theory shouldn't fluctuate.
Heat - in theory the after cat tempratures should be higher than before cat temps, so if theyre blocked, they should theoretically be lower after the cat with more heat mid-cat. Maybe a temperature gun to read the temps?

I've read (but not seen) that a pressure test can be done before and after the cat by removing the O2 sensors and using the bungs as the access points. If they're blocked, you'd expect much less pressure after it, but I've got no idea what the differential would be. Hope this helps.



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