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Old 01-20-2013, 12:23 PM
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Systems Complexity...

I don't have my new GL as yet, so I can't speak from experience.....But I have read the manual ( some sections several times....very convoluted!) and it is increasingly clear that the electronics on this vehicle....particularly if its loaded up with all of the "driving asst. options" ..... is a very complex system! All of it....from the Distronic and ESP to the traction control and various automated braking, steering, wind gust compensation, etc. etc. has to work together and not conflict with the "good and proper" efforts of the driver to drive the car! Think about it...... cameras, radar system, yaw sensors and all the rest.... I am impressed by the tech engineers who can design all of this to function and then by the assembly guys that can bolt it all together, push it out the door and it works! Not sure there are any other vehicles quite as complex? At least we hope it works....... you guys that have your cars and the multitude of options: have you found that it works as advertised or are you having any annoyances? My present 2011 seems "simple" compared to what's coming!
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There are driver dwitchable systems, then there are integrated systems - there is a whoile lot to learn/explore when your get your new truck.

One of the hardest thing for me to grasp - is that there is more features to come a year/two down the road ! (figuratively)
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There are driver dwitchable systems, then there are integrated systems - there is a whoile lot to learn/explore when your get your new truck.

One of the hardest thing for me to grasp - is that there is more features to come a year/two down the road ! (figuratively)
My thoughts as well......makes you wonder if there is an "overload" point! ( in terms of practicality for either for the system or the driver )
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Originally Posted by blittle
I don't have my new GL as yet, so I can't speak from experience.....But I have read the manual ( some sections several times....very convoluted!) and it is increasingly clear that the electronics on this vehicle....particularly if its loaded up with all of the "driving asst. options" ..... is a very complex system! All of it....from the Distronic and ESP to the traction control and various automated braking, steering, wind gust compensation, etc. etc. has to work together and not conflict with the "good and proper" efforts of the driver to drive the car! Think about it...... cameras, radar system, yaw sensors and all the rest.... I am impressed by the tech engineers who can design all of this to function and then by the assembly guys that can bolt it all together, push it out the door and it works! Not sure there are any other vehicles quite as complex? At least we hope it works....... you guys that have your cars and the multitude of options: have you found that it works as advertised or are you having any annoyances? My present 2011 seems "simple" compared to what's coming!
Porsche Cayenne and Panamera is even more complex IMO, more tech in those vehicles for sure, in 2014 features that are on the 2014 E-class will be on the GL as well, you can count on it 100%
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They are amazing machines. I find new stuff about mine all the time. I can see a day when you go to school to learn your vehicle, kind of like they have with smartphones.
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They are amazing machines. I find new stuff about mine all the time. I can see a day when you go to school to learn your vehicle, kind of like they have with smartphones.
Like the AMG driving academy.
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A oldie-lower-tech-goodie - how many owners have set their reverse settings for the side-view miroors ? Where the side view mirrors lower to a angle where you can watch out for rear-wheel scrapes ? I bet you would be hard pressed to find a salesman that knows about that anymore..
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Originally Posted by fabbrisd1
A oldie-lower-tech-goodie - how many owners have set their reverse settings for the side-view miroors ? Where the side view mirrors lower to a angle where you can watch out for rear-wheel scrapes ? I bet you would be hard pressed to find a salesman that knows about that anymore..
I had a problem with mine malfunctioning and the service advisor told me with zero doubt that it never lowered to begin with, I hear they make bout $80 an hour in Canada
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Originally Posted by fabbrisd1
A oldie-lower-tech-goodie - how many owners have set their reverse settings for the side-view miroors ? Where the side view mirrors lower to a angle where you can watch out for rear-wheel scrapes ? I bet you would be hard pressed to find a salesman that knows about that anymore..
Interesting...... I originally set mine to do that, however.....I am an "old school" backer upper and use the mirrors extensively when I need to back down some narrow Vermont roads or wherever .....I found that I'd rather have the view be of the upper part of the vehicle rather than the wheel view, so .... Deactivated that. But definitely a plus if you do a lot of parallel parking.
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Question Gl450 malfunctioning passenger side view mirror to show curb

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I had a problem with mine malfunctioning and the service advisor told me with zero doubt that it never lowered to begin with, I hear they make bout $80 an hour in Canada
I have the same problem in my new Gl450. I am not able to store the passenger side view mirror position where it will tilt to show the curb as soon as the reverse gear is engaged. I followed all instructions in the manual and spoke to their engineer who was surprised that a thing as simple as this would malfunction.....anybody having similar issues?.....for me it is very important to see the curb ESP on a vehicle of this size. Rear view camera does not show area immediately next to the wheel.

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