most states consider a car 'new' until titled right?

 

very agree!

 

A fair price for anything is determined when a person selling a product has access to a market to sell said product AND potential buyers have access to all pertinent information about the product being sold. In this case, you arrived at a true market price for a new GL63 prior to being offered all of the information about the product you were buying. That negotiated price was no special deal. If the fact that the vehicle had 1000 miles on it was not an issue it would have been disclosed to you. Was it driven by the GM, who the heck knows? All you know is that a very pertinent piece of info was withheld from you.

Why do some of us buy new vehicles? Is it because we love taking a 20% depreciation hit when we drive off the lot? No, I'm willing to take that hit because I know that purchasing a German vehicle can be a real roll of the dice when it comes to reliability and dependability. I've owned three GLs so trust me, I know what you are getting into. Plus, I take exceptional care of my cars and I know that no one, including the dealership is going to take any better care of a car. If I didn't take exceptional care of my cars, then I would be more inclined to purchase used. With a new vehicle, you are paying a hefty premium for knowing the history and getting a car with zero wear. That means no wear to paint, leather, tires, drivetrain, etc.

If I were you, I would have two issues. First I think this dealership or at least the salesperson is dishonest and I don't know for sure why you would trust anything they say about this car. This is an expensive purchase and the transaction should have been honest and professional. It wasn't. The other problem is the price. I just don't think $1800 off is enough for the 1000 miles. If it were me, I would move on. Your original negotiated price seems fair for a GL63 approaching the end of the model year.

If you still want the car, find out what the production date was from the placard on the inside of the driver's door jam. My guess is that this GL has been sitting on the lot for quite a while. If you are okay with their story, I would ask for a lot more than $1800 off. I would probably want at least another $5000-7000 if it were me. You need to receive a significant discount for not knowing how the vehicle was treated during the break-in period. They can tell you all day that their 70 year old GM babied the car back and forth from home but why should you believe that nonsense. The break-in period is important and Mercedes devotes special attention to it in the owner's manual. Buying a car this expensive is a special purchase and the vehicle should be treated as such prior to sale. It is beyond me why a GM would need to tool around for 1000 miles in a $120,000+ SUV and if indeed this was the case, the car should have been clearly advertised with the miles disclosed.

 

Yes, the car is technically new but that does not release the dealership from the responsibility of fully disclosing the condition of the car PRIOR to negotiating a price. I've been through this exact same scenario with a BMW 3 series. It wasn't my car but a relatives. Exact same story. Turns out, prior to being titled, the car had damage to the driver's side door. The car door was repainted (not disclosed of course) and sold under the same guise. For the remainder of the time the car was owned, every time you walked up to the car in the correct sunlight you could see the difference in paint. Buyer beware.

 

So very true. And then when they give you reason to not trust them...run.

 

In addition to the $1800 off I would tell them to add another 5000 miles to the end of the warranty.

 

I called off the deal. Also discovered the car has been on (or off in this case) their lot for over 8 months. This was basically someone's random daily driver. Not cool!!

Thank you everyone for your input. I may be securing a deal for a nearly identical car at another deal. . . Let's hope for no drama on this one.

 

I bet they will call you back, begging.

 

We will see. . . .

 

All great points!

 

Smart move! No telling what the various drivers of this vehicle put it through on those 1,000 miles. You don't need the headache. You can find a really new vehicle from a more reputable dealership.

 

Is it $1800 off msrp or $10,000 off?

 

Mike I believe it was $1800 worth of free maintenance.

 

Did they title the car or are they selling as a "dealer demo" only "executive driven" and "babied" its whole 1000 mile life?? Ever see how those stealers with dealer plates drive their cars?? I'd also check the AutoCheck/CarFax for damage too???

 

I have to agree with you on how "the stealers with dealer plates" drive those cars. Don't buy the "babied by our caring staff" story. Especially anything AMG or equivalent in other brands. I drive with a few groups on weekends and "the stealers" really beat the hell out of their cars. What do they care? So long as they don't crash it, the car will be someone else's problem down the road. Every few weeks they just pick another car off the lot, slap the dealer plates on, and do it all over again. Any "new" car a dealership is selling you, with more than 10 or 15 miles on it, has probably been run hard.

 

Bought my '14 GL550 from a dealer with 14k on it, was used by a family member of the dealer owners. It was immaculate - with the exception of the tires, if the odometer had shown 100 miles I might have believed it. Had the comfort of knowing the primary driver personally, but he babied this car knowing it was going back to the dealer to be sold. After 7 mos/10k miles, no issues - just joy.

 

I think you would have been alright - it's probably a little tougher to move a 100K+ car so sometimes dealerships will use them as a demo to put some miles on them which allows them to discount them a bit further. 1000 miles for that motor is nothing... I'd deal but push them for a little more off. Take the 3yr maintenance plan and ask for $15K off.

 

Someone mentioned the word "honesty". No disrespect to car salesmen and dealerships but where I come from, the words honesty and car salesman do not belong in the same sentence. I've purchased 6 new MBs so far (numerous other cars too) and I can confidently say that each and everyone of them would say pretty much anything to sell a car. They appear nice but nothing else drives them but $, period. Get everything in writing. No, I'm not cynical!

 

Putting GM-mileas aside for the moment - the value of this particular GL63 is color, interior, and most importantly the options - "rarer" and unique 2015 GL63's are closer to MSRP - in stick GL63's more "average" for a GL63 wise - are hitting the time frame where some dealer accomdation/discount may be possible.

Titled as new - with 4yrs/49K left on the warranty - that's where you're at.

Depending on ownership plan - time/mileage - prepaid service for a AMG does have a value for the new owner.

Order a 16 GL63 now - and in Sept/early October you could by driving a "younger" GL63 - facelist will be MY17 - and for AMG GLS's - most likely Oct/Nov next year - and the jury is out whether MY17 GLS AMG will be changeover to the new "GTS"/"C63" twin turbo..

Keep the beat !

 

I'm still confused as to whether he is getting $1800 off msrp or $10k as stated in one post by OP.

Anywho, engine break-in style is the most argued internet topic, right after do you prefer Kim Kardashians big *** or not.

There is no evidence that rings seat better with a hard or soft style, so we'll just leave that alone. The only fact we are sure of is that all AMG engines are dyno run to redline before being installed. Engine oil and filter condition is paramountly more important than whether you ran the car to redline, engine braked properly, or avoided long drives before 500 miles.

If I bought this car, I'd dumonthenoil and filter to make myself feel better, and then probably forget about it.

So... I think some here are putting a little to much emphasis on how the car was driven for 1k miles. If the discount meets the situation, and $10-$15k off msrp just might, I don't see a 1k miles being any issue with long term effects.

If $1800 is accurate, tell them good luck. They'll be looking at it another 8 months.

 

So the saga continues. . .

I've never dealt with such crooked dealers before.

After I cancelled the deal at the first dealership, I called a local "competitor" who happened to have a nearly identical car. I explained the situation and the pricing/financing options I had negotiated. They call me back and say "DEAL!"

Great. . . Well, not until the GM and Finance Manager call me to tell me that they want to double the interest rate and that there is no way the other dealership was going to be able to give me that rate. I have to finance with MBFS because I am trading in my lease using the Lease Accelerator Program.

I know this is just a ploy to recoup some of the discount by essentially getting another $5-6k in interest!

Anyway, I'm just out...No more...I'll wait and order a new MY16 GL63 with exactly what I from my local dealer that has been relatively straightforward with me over the years.

Anyone know who or how I can contact MB Corporate to let them know about how terrible this experience was?

Thanks again for all your input and comments. It was an interesting discussion to say the least.

 

Wow! You are doing absolute the right thing by just saying enough is enough with these two slimeball dealerships. Wait for the MY16 GL63 and get exactly what you want with none of this bait and switch nonsense. The last number I have for MB corporate is 1-800-367-6372.

 

Run, don't walk. This is a trust issue and this dealer advertised a demo vehicle as new.

 

I'll never understand why dealers are such shiesters......guess there are more Dumbo's buying cars?

 

They have a another car that's a different color that they are now trying to sell me. . . That didn't take very long!