jjparkusa

This tire is rated a summer truck tire but it has an M&S rating. I am totally confused as to whether or not this is an all season tire or not. Any help is much appreciated.

cmginc

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...ossContact+UHP

jjparkusa

Tirerack is actually where it is rated a summer tire and also M&S- so is there something I missed there?

jlim

see here:

Several Original Equipment (O.E.) sizes are branded with the M+S symbol to identify they meet all-season design standards and are suitable for driving in occasional light snow. These sizes are identified as M+S on the tire's Specs tab.

jjparkusa

Thanks. I did see that but it seems like a contradiction that a summer tire would have a M&S rating but guess it is all season then.

jlim

i don't think it is considered all season. From the desc, it is mainly a summer tire. But in light snow dusting, it may be ok for short drive. I wouldn't drive a summer tire in below freezing temperature for sure.

cmginc

I think the language is clear. If you want a true all-season tire, as I did, then purchase a true all-season tire. I chose the Conti DWS06 and have not had any issues.

Chedman13

I think the dws is a far superior tire all around, I would highly recommend it.

anothercar

I used the DWS on a Porsche 911 and Audi S6 with great results. It's an excellent alternative to UHP tires.

DC-BENZ

I don't recommend DWS' they were nothing but trouble on my wifes c230 sport. Every year or so one would need to be replaced because of sidewall bubbles. Also, the wear was pretty quick. She would wear down to the "s" (snow) of DWS in about 1.5 years.

It took us about 3 years to realize we were sending back or ordering new tires like Amazon.com packages.

But as far as ride, they were quiet and well manured in dry and wet except in emergency slalom situations.

srfrboy

The GL has very few "good" choices of tires, especially in the 21" size. The DWS is probably the best all around tire. I have had the Conti's, the Pirelli's and the DWS's. Conti's are terrible in the winter, the Pirelli's are loud and heat up too much in the summer and wear fast, and the DWS's are good in the winter and good in the summer. Don't wear too fast and aren't too loud. IMHO

4everalone

I love the DWS. It is currently on my Audi A6 as well. Its such a great combination of features and warranty.

That is sad indeed. However, our experience with the DWS has been a very positive one, especially compared to the OEM Conti tires on my other cars.

I concur.

anothercar

Last fall I put new tires on my GL model yr. 2015 with 20" wheels. The DWS was not an available choice as far as I could tell. Ended up with Michelins and so far they perform well.
Although I'm not a Pirelli fan I got 33k miles out of the OEM Pirellis and could've stretched another 5k miles out of them. Had no issues whatsoever.

4everalone

The tire selection on the 20" is far superior and has many desirable options to choose from from almost all tire manufacturers. For the 21" owners though, I can't think of a better rated All Season tire than the DWS. The DWS is also highly rated on several car enthusiast forums for various brands/cars. I have personally seen it recommended over and over again on at-least 10 different forums I can think of right away. That's not to say its a good fit for every vehicle, just that its usually a loved option for many.

jlim

Where are you guys buying the DWS in 275/50/20? I can't find it on Tirerack.

Can't find same size tire on Costco for the Michelin LTX either.

Thanks.

anothercar

Agree as I couldn't find it either when I put new rubber on my GL last fall. I ended up with Michelins.

jlim

I stopped by my local Costco as I couldn't find any on Costco online. Tire guy searched their entire inventory (US wide) and told me he found 1 in 275/50/20. Looks like they sold out on this size at Costco. He wouldn't know until he calls Michelin to see if it is available (since it was 8pm when I visited).

So, looks like Costco is out. Tirerack does not have the DWS nor Michelin LTX either

edit ... I checked again this morning and Tirerack does have it available now for the Michelin LTX.

anothercar

I ended up at Discount Tire. Ordered the Michelin LTX on their website. Within 30 minutes I received a phone call from my local Discount Tire store manager. He located the tires in Dallas. Asked me for a $40 deposit which I gave him. Had the tires installed about 10 days later. They had the best price and their service was first class. Overall a good experience.

4everalone

Getting new DWS installed today on my 21" wheels.

jlim

Yes, I did see it at Discount Tire as well. I've been a long time customer of Discount Tire since my first car. I've always gotten tires from them except the last time for the last car which I got the same Michelin LTX from Costco since Costco was running the $60 or $70 off. They are doing the same again.

Looks like Discount Tire / Michelin is also having a $70 mail-in rebate for Michelins as well, good until Mar 18. I've 25k miles in the Pirelli Scorpion Verde. When I got the CPO when it was at 16k miles, the thread was still good. I thought it could easily get more miles out of them. Almost 10k miles later, I won't want to drive them over snow/winter. Fortunately it is almost Spring/Summer season now.

Wish I could buy them from Costco still though. Or even the DWS in 20" as an option.

scholz22

Feedback on the new tires?

4everalone

Honestly, i only drove on them for a Day before commencing a 4 week international trip. I should know more at the end of April. Buy I've had these tires on my second car for a while and they are absolutely neutral in all driving conditions I've encountered thus far. I couldn't ask for more from an all season tire.

SlickRM

I've had great experiences using the site https://www.tires-easy.com/ everything comes really quick and the prices are some of the best I've seen. At this point probably ordered 3-4 sets of tires for various vehicles from there. Side note just joined the forum 1st post ha, looking to get a 2018 GTR