W205C43PFL

Hmmm if so then it was a facelift which should be the improved one, there is still a possibility of poor fuel that was put in the vehicle you test driven but ya the C 300 has a TCT. The DCT you mentioned does help with acceleration though.

Zik Mir

I am open to both sedans and SUV though where i live we get 30-60 cm of snow and obviously SUV would be a safer bet due to road clearance. My MB dealership is discounting $8000 on a brand new C300 Avantgarde Edition. It is brand new, but they are slapping me basically the exact same amount for my trade in so at the end they have the same deal as BMW, $4000 cheaper.
So i have to decide, buy the:

• 2021 X3 demo car that has 6k on it for an additional $25,000 @ 2.99 interest rate
• 2021 C300 Avantgarde Edition. NEW for an additional $21,000 @ 1.49 interest rate.

Both are pretty much fully loaded but c300 is missing the self parking and adaptive cruse control. BMW is fully maxed out including headsup display but it is USED car for 6000 km with $4000 more and worse interest rate. (I can pay cash to solve that issue)
So what it comes down to is what is more reliable here and better to OWN for a long term. Im already losing $20k - $25k because i have to forcefully trade in and pay up. What ever i buy now, i will keep it 7-8 years until the extended warranty for both of them end. How reliable is C300??

Vladimir Livson

Both cars probably have similar reliability, since the model years are been around for awhile, especially if you purchase extended warranty. And like other members stated, test drive Audi, you might like it even more.
But are you setting yourself for disappointment again? I do not think you should expect Lexus relatability from German cars. I love my GLB for the way it drives, not because it is most reliable car. For that reason, like you, I purchased 6 year extended warranty, and I do not keep my cars longer then that anyway. I owned number of new Toyotas and Hondas over the years. They were good and reliable cars, but I did not love them .

Zik Mir

One question about C300 since its hard to divorce MB, is it a rear wheel drive? Yes i know its 4Matic but GLB is technically front wheel and only power on demand for rear wheel 60/40 or something. How about C300? I mean it would be more fun to play with the car if it can send all power or more power to rear wheels for having some fun.
PS. They knocked off another $2100 since i found they were sneekely trying to sell me snow tires. Now they are asking $18,000 which is MUCH cheaper than X3. I hope the sound system is decent in the C300.

Vladimir Livson

Yes. C300 is predominantly rear wheel drive vs. A and B classes being front wheel drive. Show the dealer $50K trade in offer from BMW, you might get something out of it. I did not spent enough time in C300 to comment on sound system. I believe the standard is 7 speakers and Burmester is 12.

Zik Mir

i did show them the bmw quote and thats how it all started. As of right now they are giving straight $8000 discount. So instead of giving me more for my car, they are doing it via the cost of car. as of this moment, this is a lot cheaper than x3 and at only 1.49% interest rate. I love my GLB's sound, deep bass and good quality. Though i think GLB has only 4 speakers. Wondering if this is good with bass.

Vladimir Livson

Standard GLB system consists of 6 speakers, 4 in doors and 2 in A pillar. Standard C class has same plus subwoofer. Burmester fills all the fake speaker covers you have (front, rear, etc.)

Zik Mir

I didnt know about the A pillars lol. Good catch. So on paper C class should be better due to the subwofer.

Vladimir Livson

On paper C class is an upgrade from B class. However, since I do not own C300 it's hard to say if sound system is better. Your best bet is to ask someone on C300 forum.

W205C43PFL

I am sorry about the late reply as I have been busy but I am glad everyone else was able to answer your questions that followed. I again am sorry for that.

I didn't know the difference in cost of borrowing is that high for the C 300 compared to the BMO in Montreal, it is opposite where I am and matter of fact MB has been raising the interest rate here compared to BMW. In that case for pretty much the same tier of vehicles, the C 300 is the better buy. Do you like the looks of the C 300 though? Since you mentioned you don't want to part with MB I am not sure if I should continue doing research on other brands for you, it is up to you, let me know.

As others mentioned, yes the C 300 with 4MATIC is rear-wheel bias AWD and IIRC it is at 45/55 torque split. Keep in mind, the C 300 doesn't have MBUX, it has COMAND so test that out too on a test drive, it is basically an older system compared to the GLB you had. The GLC 300 however does have MBUX.

The C-Class is a tier above the A-Class and B-Class (in your case, the GLB) like someone else already mentioned so you would find better quality materials in the interior that you would likely appreciate.

Glad they knocked that amount off the C 300 avantgarde edition. Thankfully, that is basically the last model year for the W205 so most likely all problems and glitches has been resolved (in your case the S205 for the wagon).

Like everyone else mentioned though, test drive it so there is no chance of buyer's remorse as someone mentioned the C 300 doesn't accelerate as fast as the GLB despite the lower horsepower which they further explained how one has a TCT and another had a DCT.

For the C 300 test drive, see if they let you test drive the one that they are actually selling to you. The W205 has infamous interior rattles and creeks but not all vehicles suffer from this problem, my 2017 C 43 suffers it but I heard the facelift improved a lot in this regards. So try to drive the vehicle on a bumpy road, have a feel of the suspension, make sure you find it comfortable. Listen for noises (if any). I assume you will be putting snow tires on the vehicle right after you pick up? If that is the case you would be likely be replacing the optioned (if optioned) 19 inch with 18 inch winters? If you live in pothole city, the 19 inch might get damaged (unless your vehicle comes with 18 inch which you won't have this issue) If you want to improve the ride quality, get rid of those run-flats.

Still, I am sorry to hear that you are losing money swapping the GLB, I was hopeful that you were able to come ahead and get more than what you paid for it because the GLB I believe is in relatively high demand. That being said, the deal you are getting isn't bad (for the C 300) so I am glad you got that type of deal. If only they can appraise your GLB higher then it would be better but you are doing alright in this market either way.

You mentioned about the speakers and I am glad someone else were able to explain the technical stuff and hardware differences. Did your GLB have base speakers or was it also Burmester? Since you care about speaker quality, be sure to test those out with some music you like as well during the test drive. Do this after you tested the vehicle for noises (if any) like rattles and you had a feel of the suspension, is it comfortable enough? Better yet, you can always test the speakers when you are parked. You may also ask your dealership if they can downgrade to 18 inch but since they tried to sneak you into snow tires I am guessing it will be better to not mention it at all and get snow tires yourself.

You did mention your vehicle is pretty much fully loaded but make sure they specify what features are omitted (if any) because of the chip shortage.

I wish you good luck and hope you enjoy the test drive, please keep us updated on your experience and feel free to ask if you have any questions. Still test drive that Q5 and A4/A5 like someone else mentioned so you have more options to consider.

W205C43PFL

Forgot to mention, the C 300 doesn't have a touchscreen either. The GLC 300 does.

Odd Piggy

Unless it’s 4matic all wheel drive, the C300 is rear wheel drive.
Just curious:
If it’s loaded except for Parktronic & Distronic, wouldn’t the 10.3 inch display be a touch screen?

Vladimir Livson

It's not. 2021 C300 is the last model year for the the older Command interface. New 2022 C300 was redesigned and has large touch screen and MBUX.

hyperion667

If you're so unhappy with the brand why not buy a Honda?

W205C43PFL

Ya I was shocked too but touch screen came with MBUX and the facelift W205 didn't get MBUX. That is most likely because the A-Class just got it not long ago and they want to see how the market responses first before putting it in one of the best selling model (the C-Class) when the C-Class got its facelift in 2018 as a MY19.

Odd Piggy

I’ve been dealing with the German brands doing this since 1979. I think that’s why you need the VIN when buying parts. They must use up what’s in the parts bin and change over on the assembly line when it’s gone.
The debate goes on about what’s better. My grandson and my neighbor said no more BMWs. The neighbor went through a Lexus and now has an Acura. My grandson says that to him my C250 is a disappointment and he left the Germans completely and bough a Ford. I had coworkers who loved their BMWs. My boss bought a W212 because he liked my W211 but he traded a year later for a Cadillac. I know 2 indie mechanics. One swears by Audi, the other prefers BMW but says Benzes are less expensive to maintain as they age.
I read your post thinking OMG I bought one of these things! I would tend to prefer the C300 because it is the end of a model run and most of the quirks should be worked out. MBUX is nice, though. We went with the GLB for pure practicality. We needed place for 7 and the GLS didn’t fit where we would have to park it.
Best of luck.

Isawelvis

I have Mercedes ML350 and bought a 2021 X3 in Feb last year. Its a good car, I chose it over a GLC due to engine and more room in cargo area. Also, the GLC seem cramped to me in the front as compare to the X3. the refresh mentioned is not really a lot, new front end and rear end. same inside except it has some other options like remote start. Not much difference, same engine, trans and interior.

Drive the X3, don't worry about it being a 2021. It probably has some options (due to the chip shortage) you can no longer get on the 2022.It also is as fast as the GLC, it just has one extra gear in the transmission

W205C43PFL

OP, everything going well with your test drive? Haven't heard back from you. Looking forward to an update.

Zik Mir

https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...ml#post8494452

(Click the link to the other forum where im asking about the wheels, bonus you get to see the new car!)
BOUGHT IT! BOUGHT THE C300!!!! Now just wondering i can swap the winter wheels/tires form my GLB since i have a set from it.

W205C43PFL

Nice, how was the test driving experience? I am guessing you didn't check out the audi at all since the dealership offered an additional discount.

Zik Mir

I did check it out, sat in the car and got out in 1 min. Everything was plastic and seemd like a toyota. Sorry just not my pick lol. And i didnt like the exterior either.

W205C43PFL

Ya no problem at all, glad you made a decision at the end. So when is delivery?

Zik Mir

Next week! Weather permitting. 5-7 days from now. Very excited!

W205C43PFL

Nice, look forward to it : )