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Old 02-08-2017, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Philamg
Dealer has just phoned me to say that their motor group will NOT be asking customers to sign the disclaimer, not sure if it is me they are saying that to or everyone, I had already told them I won't be signing.
My car has arrived at dealers and salesman has taken it around the site, forward and backwards on full lock and he says it doesn't have the issue. He said I could go over and drive the car but I declined, I trust him and he knows if it has the problem he will be getting it back.
Good luck!
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Originally Posted by dejongj
Good luck!
Is there a hint of Sarcasm in the post?.
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Originally Posted by Philamg
Is there a hint of Sarcasm in the post?.
Sorry Phil, I probably gone all 'Dutch' on you there. I meant it literal
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No problem Dejongj, I can really appreciate your frustration and emailed a copy of your video to the salesman telling him if mine was like that he would find it parked on his desk.
He is a really down to earth guy and not like most car salesmen in that I actually believe him as he has been very honest with me. It may be a really bad decision but only time will tell.
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http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/authors...dering-9801544

Tabloid style, but hey what has to be done has to be done Watch out for more national press coverage soon.
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Nice work, Delongj.

Just curious, did you ever put on the snow tire set (I remember you were asking about it)???
if you did, did it help with your crabbing issues?
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Originally Posted by ble2716
Nice work, Delongj.

Just curious, did you ever put on the snow tire set (I remember you were asking about it)???
if you did, did it help with your crabbing issues?
Not yet - I'm taking it into Wheels-In-Motion in Chesham for a full alignment. This company is highly recommended in the UK as knowing what they are doing. Communication channels with my supplying dealer have also been opened again following some persistent complaining by myself. But most importantly, my wife just doesn't trust the vehicle at all, so we are taking our little VW Golf R on this trip instead.

As such I've been holding off spending my own hard earned cash.
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It's such a shame that you're experiencing this kind of problem with your car and the responses from MB.
One of the main reason I bought my GLC43 because of the experience I received from my local MB in the past.
If I received such lousy response from MB ( or any brand for that matter) like you did, I would abandon the whole brand altogether.
I hope the outcome is in favour.

On the side note, I did experience a slight judder when I backing out a parking space with a full lock steering.
I did that on purpose. The ground was wet at the time.
To my surprise, I tried again and could not duplicate the same problem.
I even did a few number "8" turns in the same parking lot and still could not duplicate the judder.
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Originally Posted by ble2716
On the side note, I did experience a slight judder when I backing out a parking space with a full lock steering.
I did that on purpose. The ground was wet at the time.
To my surprise, I tried again and could not duplicate the same problem.
I even did a few number "8" turns in the same parking lot and still could not duplicate the judder.
Thanks for this^^.
It still appears that the issue is confined to RHD models. We have a LHD US model on order and I've been getting a little nervous about this.
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I think I mentioned this before but here is an interesting read. I wonder if the RHD front suspension was designed differently on purpose (for some reason, intentional or not)?

My 2014 Vette jumps/hops like crazy in parking garages etc especially when wet or cold.

FWIW, may be interesting to some.

http://blog.patmcgrathchevyland.com/...ette-stingray/
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Originally Posted by ArcticWhiteZ51
I think I mentioned this before but here is an interesting read. I wonder if the RHD front suspension was designed differently on purpose (for some reason, intentional or not)?

My 2014 Vette jumps/hops like crazy in parking garages etc especially when wet or cold.

FWIW, may be interesting to some.

http://blog.patmcgrathchevyland.com/...ette-stingray/
Something many keep saying, lets not forget this is a 168Bhp family car we are talking about. Not some track monster dedicated to getting around the track correctly.
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A little tongue in cheek video

https://www.mercedescrabbing.org/201...-mercedes-glc/
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Something many keep saying, lets not forget this is a 168Bhp family car we are talking about. Not some track monster dedicated to getting around the track correctly.
JP - I think you need to start a whole new thread about missing or stolen horsepower. if your AMG43 only has 168hp, where's the other 200hp or so that was there when you bought it?
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Originally Posted by Matteus GLC AMG
JP - I think you need to start a whole new thread about missing or stolen horsepower. if your AMG43 only has 168hp, where's the other 200hp or so that was there when you bought it?
Very funny

I could buy the argument a little if just the GLC43 AMG was affected. But as also the 2.0L 4-cyl 300 and the 2.0L 4-cyl diesel 220d are affected, you can hardly call those track cars.
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[QUOTE=Matteus GLC AMG;7054944]JP - I think you need to start a whole new thread about missing or stolen horsepower./QUOTE]
He was referring to the front wheels only as that is where the problem appears to be☺
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[QUOTE=decorily;7054994]
Originally Posted by Matteus GLC AMG
JP - I think you need to start a whole new thread about missing or stolen horsepower./QUOTE]
He was referring to the front wheels only as that is where the problem appears to be☺
ROFLMAO Very good
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My GLC43 started doing the tire scrubbing thing, so far only tested on tight left hand U-turns in a dry, paved parking lot where doing so is required to get out. I have 20" Good Year all-seasons and left-hand drive. It feels similar to the full-time lockers on my off-roading Wrangler, but it's nowhere near as bad as the binding that happens with 4WD cars. It certainly doesn't feel right though.
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Originally Posted by cahiil55k
My GLC43 started doing the tire scrubbing thing, so far only tested on tight left hand U-turns in a dry, paved parking lot where doing so is required to get out. I have 20" Good Year all-seasons and left-hand drive. It feels similar to the full-time lockers on my off-roading Wrangler, but it's nowhere near as bad as the binding that happens with 4WD cars. It certainly doesn't feel right though.
Wow! Could you take a video of your vehicle when this happens.

Sorry to to hear that
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Originally Posted by cahiil55k
My GLC43 started doing the tire scrubbing thing, so far only tested on tight left hand U-turns in a dry, paved parking lot where doing so is required to get out. I have 20" Good Year all-seasons and left-hand drive. It feels similar to the full-time lockers on my off-roading Wrangler, but it's nowhere near as bad as the binding that happens with 4WD cars. It certainly doesn't feel right though.
Our 2017 LHD GLC300 did it (slight skid/slip) the other day a bit when the wife turned full lock pulling into a parking space. It was warm and dry outside. Maybe there was some gravel or something, not sure. Personally I don't consider what it did a big deal as she was at full lock going real slow. The car has 18" Pirelli's. All this being said I am used to a car that does it BAD and it is normal (C7 Corvette).

I'm not knocking what is happening to you folks but I figured I'd chime in with our LHD GLC.
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Originally Posted by ArcticWhiteZ51
Our 2017 LHD GLC300 did it (slight skid/slip) the other day a bit when the wife turned full lock pulling into a parking space. It was warm and dry outside. Maybe there was some gravel or something, not sure. Personally I don't consider what it did a big deal as she was at full lock going real slow. The car has 18" Pirelli's. All this being said I am used to a car that does it BAD and it is normal (C7 Corvette).

I'm not knocking what is happening to you folks but I figured I'd chime in with our LHD GLC.
yeah, it happens in my LHD GLC as well, but not to often. biggest thing is in the parking garage at my work when it is wet. then it does it tons and you almost move sideways from the skipping then the direction you are turning to.
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Originally Posted by ArcticWhiteZ51
Our 2017 LHD GLC300 did it (slight skid/slip) the other day a bit when the wife turned full lock pulling into a parking space. It was warm and dry outside. Maybe there was some gravel or something, not sure. Personally I don't consider what it did a big deal as she was at full lock going real slow. The car has 18" Pirelli's. All this being said I am used to a car that does it BAD and it is normal (C7 Corvette).

I'm not knocking what is happening to you folks but I figured I'd chime in with our LHD GLC.
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yeah, it happens in my LHD GLC as well, but not to often. biggest thing is in the parking garage at my work when it is wet. then it does it tons and you almost move sideways from the skipping then the direction you are turning to.
Does it happen as violently as in my latest video linked above?
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Does it happen as violently as in my latest video linked above?
i would say so. it was quite violent. i also noticed it recently on the streets because of the cold/snowy/slushy weather. though my work parking garage, it is crazy when wet in there. interestingly enough, my GLK and ML never did this in the same conditions in the same garage.
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Originally Posted by dejongj
Does it happen as violently as in my latest video linked above?
Nope, don't think so.

My Corvette absolutely does this. They all do.

Sorry about your situation : (.
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Originally Posted by ArcticWhiteZ51
Nope, don't think so.

My Corvette absolutely does this. They all do.

Sorry about your situation : (.
I think the point you are making is that you can't get away from Ackerman. And I agree. But there are different gradations as to what can be reasonably expected in making design decisions.
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Originally Posted by dejongj
I think the point you are making is that you can't get away from Ackerman. And I agree. But there are different gradations as to what can be reasonably expected in making design decisions.
I agree. No MB (unless maybe super sporty coupe) should have this severity of the Ackermann effect. I guess on the RHD they made geometry decisions that left some of it in the design. Sorry for your issues. I'd be beside myself.
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