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Old Mar 8, 2017 | 08:54 AM
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On many, if not most vehicles when you order Adaptive Cruise Control regular (non radar) cruise control is deleted. When you order Distronic on a GLC is regular cruise control deleted?

I like having both as sometimes I prefer to use regular cruise control. I know, for example, that on many Chrysler products, including Jeeps, when you order Adaptive Cruise Control, regular cruise control is not deleted.

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Old Mar 8, 2017 | 09:03 AM
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Old Mar 8, 2017 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Shark
On many, if not most vehicles when you order Adaptive Cruise Control regular (non radar) cruise control is deleted. When you order Distronic on a GLC is regular cruise control deleted?

I like having both as sometimes I prefer to use regular cruise control. I know, for example, that on many Chrysler products, including Jeeps, when you order Adaptive Cruise Control, regular cruise control is not deleted.

Thanks in advance for your help.
Just out of curiosity, what would be a situation in which you'd want the regular cruise control over adaptive?
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Old Mar 8, 2017 | 10:15 AM
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Just out of curiosity, what would be a situation in which you'd want the regular cruise control over adaptive?
I have ACC on one of my vehicles now, and wish I had the choice between both types.

While I do like ACC (with stop and go) in bumper to bumper traffic, as well as when the traffic is very light, for example on a two lane (one lane in each direction) road if the car in front of me is slowing and turning off the road and there is no deacceleration lane, ACC of course does not recognize the car in front of me has it's turn signal on and brakes far more than needed. Also in moderate traffic (on a two lane road or on an expressway) if someone passes you and changes lanes a bit too closely in front of you, ACC will needlessly deaccelerate and/or brake. And there's likely other scenarios that don't immediately come to mind. Finally I've a had a couple of instances where ACC has not be operable because the radar unit on the front of the vehicle needed to be cleaned. Would have been nice to have regular cruise control as a backup versus nothing.

Candidly if I had to choose one or the other I'm not sure I'd chose ACC again. Unfortunately on the GLC, ACC is bundled with some other options I'd like to have.

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Old Mar 8, 2017 | 10:20 AM
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I have ACC on one of my vehicles now, and wish I had the choice between both types.

While I do like ACC (with stop and go) in bumper to bumper traffic, as well as when the traffic is very light, for example on a two lane (one lane in each direction) road if the car in front of me is slowing and turning off the road and there is no deacceleration lane, ACC of course does not recognize the car in front of me has it's turn signal on and brakes far more than needed. Also in moderate traffic (on a two lane road or on an expressway) if someone passes you and changes lanes a bit too closely in front of you, ACC will needlessly deaccelerate and/or brake. And there's likely other scenarios that don't immediately come to mind. Finally I've a had a couple of instances where ACC has not be operable because the radar unit on the front of the vehicle needed to be cleaned. Would have been nice to have regular cruise control as a backup versus nothing.
Ah, makes sense. I have found some instances in which the ACC tries to be more careful than I would normally. I thoroughly enjoyed using it in heavy traffic last night, but in moderate traffic, I have found it to require adjustments as people cut in and out of lanes.
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Old Mar 8, 2017 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Shark
On many, if not most vehicles when you order Adaptive Cruise Control regular (non radar) cruise control is deleted. When you order Distronic on a GLC is regular cruise control deleted?

I like having both as sometimes I prefer to use regular cruise control. I know, for example, that on many Chrysler products, including Jeeps, when you order Adaptive Cruise Control, regular cruise control is not deleted.

Thanks in advance for your help.
I have the Distronic Plus, and you engage the adaptive if you want. But I can't imagine why you would not want it as it helps you not run into forward traffic going slower than you. Or if a car cuts in front of you.

when would you not want adaptive on?
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Old Mar 8, 2017 | 03:48 PM
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I have the Distronic Plus, and you engage the adaptive if you want. But I can't imagine why you would not want it as it helps you not run into forward traffic going slower than you. Or if a car cuts in front of you.

when would you not want adaptive on?
See post #4 above.
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Old Mar 8, 2017 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Shark
See post #4 above.
I don't know if this is different, but with Distronic Plus you can determine the distance between your car and the front car.

In my experience, the car has never braked in a situation I considered it not to be necessary.

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Old Mar 8, 2017 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel BG
I don't know if this is different, but with Distronic Plus you can determine the distance between your car and the front car.

In my experience, the car has never braked in a situation I considered it not to be necessary.

Check this one

https://youtu.be/RCsyk-KajCQ
Yes, but the driver in the video did not encounter the situations I mentioned in post #4 above.
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Old Mar 8, 2017 | 04:59 PM
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I should also mention that in the instances I described in post #4 above several times drivers behind me had to slam on their brakes because ACC needlessly applied the brakes and/or applied them harder than I would have, despite me having the ACC set at minimum distance.

While in general I like the idea of Distronic, I guess all systems like this have their limitations. All they know is what they can "see". For example, if there is a rapid slow down of expressway traffic, Distronic is not going to see the traffic several cars in front of you start to hit their brakes...it's focused only on the vehicle immediately in front of you.
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Old Mar 8, 2017 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Shark
I should also mention that in the instances I described in post #4 above several times drivers behind me had to slam on their brakes because ACC needlessly applied the brakes and/or applied them harder than I would have, despite me having the ACC set at minimum distance.

While in general I like the idea of Distronic, I guess all systems like this have their limitations. All they know is what they can "see". For example, if there is a rapid slow down of expressway traffic, Distronic is not going to see the traffic several cars in front of you start to hit their brakes...it's focused only on the vehicle immediately in front of you.
This is exactly the situation that I was explaining to a friend on the limitations of the system. We can see many vehicles ahead and know that even if the car in front of us is speeding up, it's best to just coast, as breaking will be occurring shortly. I know manufacturers are moving towards the multi-car viewing systems, like Tesla's radar bouncing underneath the car ahead, but until vision/logic systems are on par with our abilities (or all cars are talking to each other), that's a challenging problem to fix.
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Old Mar 8, 2017 | 05:12 PM
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Yes, but the driver in the video did not encounter the situations I mentioned in post #4 above.
I know what you mean.

I never had the car break if a car faster than me would cross over my lane. If it was slower than mine it would make mine brake.
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Old Mar 8, 2017 | 07:00 PM
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I agree that the Distronic Plus is not perfect, and there are situations where it's overly cautious, and others where it doesn't 'see' far enough ahead, but overall I'd much rather have it than not. Once you understand its weaknesses you can adjust for them. We recently picked up a well-optioned B200 as a second car, and Distronic Plus is one of the C-class features that I really miss (otlhers being HUD, 3D camera, and electronic steering wheel adjustment).
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Old Mar 9, 2017 | 01:12 PM
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I agree that the Distronic Plus is not perfect, and there are situations where it's overly cautious, and others where it doesn't 'see' far enough ahead, but overall I'd much rather have it than not. Once you understand its weaknesses you can adjust for them. We recently picked up a well-optioned B200 as a second car, and Distronic Plus is one of the C-class features that I really miss (otlhers being HUD, 3D camera, and electronic steering wheel adjustment).
Again, it's not that I dislike Distronic, I would just prefer to be able to have both Distronic and regular cruise control in the same vehicle as some others manufacturers offer.
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Old Mar 9, 2017 | 01:14 PM
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I wish the Distronic had a fall back mode to go into regular cruise control.

Over Christmas I was driving through a storm and the Distronic Plus went off line. I could not stop and had to drive without any cruise control until I found an area where I could pull off. A leaf stuck to the sensors in the grill star area causing it to fail.

if you get a warning that the sensors are out and you now have just "normal" cruise control, I would rather have the normal cruise control rather than losing all cruise control. In other words a graceful degradation rather than a total failure FWIW.
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Old Mar 9, 2017 | 01:22 PM
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I wish the Distronic had a fall back mode to go into regular cruise control.

Over Christmas I was driving through a storm and the Distronic Plus went off line. I could not stop and had to drive without any cruise control until I found an area where I could pull off. A leaf stuck to the sensors in the grill star area causing it to fail.

if you get a warning that the sensors are out and you now have just "normal" cruise control, I would rather have the normal cruise control rather than losing all cruise control. In other words a graceful degradation rather than a total failure FWIW.
Yep, that's one of the reasons I wish Mercedes would off both Distronic and regular cruise together.
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Mercedes is not the only manufacturer with adaptive cruise control (ACC) with no backup. I currently drive an Audi A6 and on a cross country trip last summer got into heavy rain, sensors got dirty and ACC quit working, no regular/legacy cruise as a backup. I believe the manufacturers do this because of liability. If people get used to the ACC braking for them and maintaining distance to car in front, then those features become unavailable possibility for rear end collision increases.
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Originally Posted by Robert Sullivan
Mercedes is not the only manufacturer with adaptive cruise control (ACC) with no backup. I currently drive an Audi A6 and on a cross country trip last summer got into heavy rain, sensors got dirty and ACC quit working, no regular/legacy cruise as a backup. I believe the manufacturers do this because of liability. If people get used to the ACC braking for them and maintaining distance to car in front, then those features become unavailable possibility for rear end collision increases.
I agree the liability issue is probably what drives them but if it gives you a warning and cuts off the Distronic Plus but allows you to engage "normal" cruise control and again warns you in the center console display I would think this would protect them.
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I believe the manufacturers do this because of liability.
Not so sure about that. If that was the case I really doubt Chrysler's attorneys would allow them to market cars with both systems. It would be especially risky if most other manufacturers don't offer both systems together because if Chrysler was ever sued due to an accident Plaintiff would no doubt point out the other manufacturers that don't offer it.

Can't say that I've thoroughly looked to see who else offers it but the only other car I've seen it on other than some Chrysler products was a Mazda.

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Yes, but the driver in the video did not encounter the situations I mentioned in post #4 above.
Guys ACC is an "AID". MB is very clear about that. I tend to look at ACC as cruise control on steroids. I didn't you cruise control in bad weather and I don't use ACC.
I use it a lot but I am very aware that it can make mistakes or rather misjudgments that only us humans can correct. Ex. Car stopped at a light. You are doing 35 mph. If I didn't have it turned on I would take my foot off the petal long before ACC starts to slow. That said in slow and go commuting it's great in keeping a fixed distance between cars.
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