Brakes, How many miles are you getting??




Thanks for your insight
Jim










Active lane keeping consumes brakes.
I avoid use of these driver assist systems for the reason that they consume brakes, and do not increase my sense of driving enjoyment.
Driving style has a large influence on brake pad life. I allow a large following distance to the next vehicle, and use engine braking, both habits aimed toward extending brake pad life. Also avoid jackrabbit starts because it often requires hard braking at the next red traffic light.
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Some dealerships won't share this, or say they can't, but they absolutely can. Sometimes the sales agent needs to request a printout from the service department, but if they know you're serious about the car they'll do it. See attached for an example.
Some dealerships were putting the information in the listing, some in the ipacket. But most were able to see in their cost how much they had into the car. It's good to know this information because it helps you understand what your first couple of years costs could be, and helps you compare car to car. Like if one CPO is $2k less but didn't have brakes/tires replaced when the other one did - which one is actually 'cheaper'?
Also, you know how much wiggle room they have in the price. If the car is a lease return from their dealership (i.e. they didn't have to pay to ship it) and they didn't have to replace brakes/tires etc, they have tons of room on the price. If they shipped it after an MBFS auction and had to replace tires pads and rotors, they're going to be very tight on wiggle room.
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Seems from the forum that they might be jumping the gun. I don't commute and drive using brakes as little as possible by keeping distance, etc.
Also was told I need 4 new tires. The scorpions are rated at 50K miles or higher. Of course I don't qualify for a claim to Perelli because a detail sign-off by the dealer was not kept. Details of the warranty state that more often than your 10K service is required. Can anyone give me some advice on both of these issues? Should I just get the work done and be done with it?
Meanwhile my dealer is hounding me for a review of the service!
Seems from the forum that they might be jumping the gun. I don't commute and drive using brakes as little as possible by keeping distance, etc.
Also was told I need 4 new tires. The scorpions are rated at 50K miles or higher. Of course I don't qualify for a claim to Perelli because a detail sign-off by the dealer was not kept. Details of the warranty state that more often than your 10K service is required. Can anyone give me some advice on both of these issues? Should I just get the work done and be done with it?
Meanwhile my dealer is hounding me for a review of the service!

Brake life, somewhat like tire life, is very dependent on driving style. The same vehicle driven differently could get 20k miles out of brakes, or 50K miles. More pedal pressure creates more heat (and more friction), so if your style is to "enjoy the ride", your pad life will be lower. Alternatively, if you coast up to traffic lights, don't stop short, drive lots of highway miles for longer stints, your pad life will be better.
While tire live is less dependent on style than brakes, driving style does contribute. Long highway journeys tend to cause less wear than lots of turns/cornering. That said, the one thing I learned pretty quickly before picking up my GLC is to not expect more than 30k on the tires. So 29k is probably right near average. You can feel the little tread depth markers (little nubs) in the grooves if you run your fingers through them. They are 2mm protrusions, which indicates your usable tread is fully used up. When you get close to the wear markets, the car will handle very poorly in wet weather and isn't really safe to drive anymore any long distances or in bad weather. if your tread is pretty close to the wear markers, it's time for tires.
Regarding the warranty, if these are the original tires -- you don't get a tread warranty. Every new car sold with OEM tires that I am aware of gives up the tread warranty (buying in bulk by the manufacturer). So even with records, they probably won't honor the 50k mile warranty. Also, 50k for any SUV is very impressive, even with good maintenance/rotations. I got 45k out of a set of Michelins on an Acura RDX and I was thrilled. The replacement tires are 55k mile warranty and I doubt we'll cross 40k on them before getting really close to the markers. We like the tires so we'll probably buy them again and hope for a little warranty relief, but again those weren't the original tires...
As far as the original poster's Pirelli Scorpions, those are horrible tires. They are extended mobility, which anyone will tell you are heavy, have horrible handling, poor traction, and rarely last over 25,000 miles (we got 19,000 on ours....currently 37,000 on our Continentals (not extended mobility).

FWIW, I hated run-flats on my ‘14 BMW due to the harsh ride, and resigned myself to similarly swap out fir non-RF if I disliked the GLC ride, but I am very happy this far.
If not the Contis again, Costco has something that I think are Bridgestone.
Extended Mobility is Mercedes-speak for run-flat. Since the sidewalls are ridged, the ride is harsher and the tires tend to wear out a bit faster (since the sidewalls can’t compress/flex as much, much stress on the tire treads over bumps).




As far as the original poster's Pirelli Scorpions, those are horrible tires. They are extended mobility, which anyone will tell you are heavy, have horrible handling, poor traction, and rarely last over 25,000 miles (we got 19,000 on ours....currently 37,000 on our Continentals (not extended mobility).




GLC 250 diesel, 4Matic - constant 4WD.
42,000 kilometres front pads and disc and rear pads. 80, 000 kilometres on rear discs.
driving style semi relaxed - extensive use of driving aids, disctronic, lane departure etc. Lots of single and dual lane roads in heavy traffic at 40-80 KPH speed.
Tyres can recommend Goodyear All Season Eagle MOE
I have been driving the 2018 GLC 300 4Matic CPO for the past one year and it now has 45,000 Km. Got the warning message two days ago saying "Check Brake Pads Wear". I had the major service at the MB dealership two weeks ago and they didn't even suggest changing. So I had to look at their service notes and here are the measurements they noted: Font pads: 10 mm (83% left), Front Rotor: 31.3 mm
Rear pads: 3 mm (25% left), Rear rotor: 23.2 mm
It certainly looks like the rear pads and rotors are gone! I don't like MB pads as they are soft hence creating a lot of dust. When I had my C300, I put Akebono Euro Ceramic pads with MB rotors...was great and never had to change for 7 years! I am thinking about doing the same here.
Questions:
1) Has anyone moved away from MB pads to Akebono? What rotors did you use?
3) I think I will have to change pads and rotors together. Should I change all together, front and rear, or changing only rear is enough?
4) I think the brand new pads have 12mm thickness. Do you know what the thickness is for brand new rotors?
Thank you
that Mercedes often makes it difficult for manufacturers to make parts with the right specifications. The blades do not look easy to replace even if I found the right set. Calls to a couple of parts stores
came back with no winter wiper blades that fit the car. Has anyone had the same experience? Current wipers are not in bad shape but I will be driving in snowstorms and would prefer a more heavy duty set if available.
Also, I will be buying a new set of all season non run flat tires. I have read others have purchased and liked Continentals and Michelins. Please let me know if you have non run flats that you like.
Thanks in advance for your comments.




that Mercedes often makes it difficult for manufacturers to make parts with the right specifications. The blades do not look easy to replace even if I found the right set. Calls to a couple of parts stores
came back with no winter wiper blades that fit the car. Has anyone had the same experience? Current wipers are not in bad shape but I will be driving in snowstorms and would prefer a more heavy duty set if available.
Also, I will be buying a new set of all season non run flat tires. I have read others have purchased and liked Continentals and Michelins. Please let me know if you have non run flats that you like.
Thanks in advance for your comments.
As far as tires go, there are may threads here with a lot of good info. I have about 15k on Michelin CrossClimate 2 (18") and absolutely love them and would not hesitate to buy them again. Great in the rain, quiet, and look like they will last a while. Have not tried them in snow but they are supposed to be good in snow as well.



