I just ordered Continental Extreemcontact all season tires for the stock 20" rims. I wanted new rims to keep the stock package for summer and track but couldn't stomach the cost.
Hoping for the decent improvement with the Conti's, the stock tires SUCK in 0 degree temperatures! Lol.
I just ordered Continental Extreemcontact all season tires for the stock 20" rims. I wanted new rims to keep the stock package for summer and track but couldn't stomach the cost.
Hoping for the decent improvement with the Conti's, the stock tires SUCK in 0 degree temperatures! Lol.
I put the Conti DSW 06's on my CLK55 last year; I do drive the car during the winter, on the weekends. They have been excellent with grip in all conditions; also smoothing out some of the harsh bumps (old school harsh suspension w/ plus 1 wheelset) and handle damn good on the tight back roads, which I tend to hit aggressively. These Conti's feel very forgiving, progressive; make the car more stable around corners - maybe it was the tires all along? They didn't have Michelins in the sizes I needed, but I am happy I got these.
I just ordered Continental Extreemcontact all season tires for the stock 20" rims. I wanted new rims to keep the stock package for summer and track but couldn't stomach the cost.
Hoping for the decent improvement with the Conti's, the stock tires SUCK in 0 degree temperatures! Lol.
Got the Conti's installed and the crabbing is gone, but it was only 30 degrees F this morning. With the original tires the crabbing was bad at that temp, gone with these tires. The sound/jolt from the cracks in the highway pavement is better and the stone/gravel pick up is reduced. AND they are rated for snow. All good things and glad we changed.
Well, then merc falls behind in their "handling" design pretty bad coz there r many cars that handle better and don't have this stupid flaw in em.
Im not an easy to scare dood but i used to precisely pilot my cars half an inch from other objects and other cars and every time it crabs with this terrible sound and feedback in a whole body and steering wheel i lay a brick in my pants thinking damn i got old and hit something when im not. My wife really freaks out when it happens and it doesn't add any faith into brand and this kind of design. I know nothing is perfect, could buy a macan and enjoy way better ride and handling but this issue with crabbing is really really bad and they had enough time to work it out on at least facelift cars.
EXACTLY HOW I FEEL AND MY SHORTY TOO.
it scares her when it happens.
also, $120k bc of market correction. i paid $109 with taxes.
Do you happen to have more details on suspension fix for GLC43? I've just started the battle with Mercedes Gosford after I decided I'd had enough, cars done 10,000kms and this has been happening since at least 2,000kms and only getting worse. Response from Merc was needed new tyres, lost my **** and have started the process given they advised its a "feature" and not a safety issue. Taking the route of misinformed sale and should have been advised of this issue and accepted it prior to purchase in Sep 2021. They're already playing hard ball, service dept was a bunch of muppets and said I would have signed an acceptance of this feature at purchase, negative, didn't happen. Will advise how this continues, but don't see it being a smooth resolution based on calls had today with service and sales.
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G’Day mate, I feel your pain as does every owner who has the GLC platform…more so those that have the 63/ 63s models as they exhibit this tire juddering/ grabbing in a more aggressive manner.
For the non-63/ 63s models - aka the 43AMG and others; do actually have a suspension fix with replacing the various components via Merc through your warranty as a car defect (from what I’ve been told, please check though).
For the GLC 63/ 63s models there is no suspension remedies to be had via Merc through any warranty or defect claim as of writing this to my knowledge. As a result the only fix is to change the stock high performance 4s runflat tires to performance oriented all season tires.
My car has and never will be out on a race track or road course because I never bought it for that reason even though it’s plenty capable of doing so, I don’t day dream of thinking I’m a race driver with an over inflated ego so the driving I do, is merely spirited driving when and where the opportunity arises, meaning when my wife and kids are not in the car he he he.
So in a nutshell there are fixes for the normal GLC’s whereas the 63/ 63’s AMG GLC models must obfuscate this issue with all season tires, which does actually work.
RHD market different to USA. No diesels in USA either.
UK, due to number of RHD sales is best source for RHD versions re suspension.
UK was working with Germany on a new knuckle (for 43 & 63 series) I believe back in 2018/2019, but never heard anything else - think power ratio of front and rear set up for 43, 63 and 350D could not be sorted.
new AS tyre options limited in Oz as we are seen as a small market not needing such tyres. Continental or Michelin have a new one, great test results in UK/Europe annual review, but Company not interested in importing any !! Vredestein were interested in importing a pallet load if some owners got together and agreed to buy casings, at a good discount = Goodyear stepped in and cornered market with MB. Each major tyre brand in Oz has a tech/sales person dedicated to discussing tyre and model options with major car brands.
20”, 21” and 22” rims only make it worse for profile, there were some 18” and 19” rims imported into Oz, never seen 17” rims avail in Europe.
Tyre / rim balance and increased PSI to around 38-40 will help, as too rotation, side to side for staggered rim set up.
I haven't read through the entire thread but just thought I'd share my experience. I have a GLC 250d that also suffered from the crabbing issue. I had Bridgestone Dueller tyres on it and recently change to Aplus A919 tyres. Since I got the new tyres the crabbing issue has disappeared completely. I'm also very happy sofar (3 000km) with the new tyres and they were quite a bit cheaper than the Bridgestones.
Went from Pirelli PZero summer tires on 21 factory MB rims to 20 inch aftermarket same width winter tires and problem is gone.
As many have stated, tires are the main change to remedy. Here in MD right now, avg temp is 40-50 degrees as high temps.
I’ve always been a big advocate of winter tires, as they basically are drag radials in 60 degree weather. Grip so much better than summer or all weather tires, and with a 63 you know traction is always a problem
Went from Pirelli PZero summer tires on 21 factory MB rims to 20 inch aftermarket same width winter tires and problem is gone.
As many have stated, tires are the main change to remedy. Here in MD right now, avg temp is 40-50 degrees as high temps.
I’ve always been a big advocate of winter tires, as they basically are drag radials in 60 degree weather. Grip so much better than summer or all weather tires, and with a 63 you know traction is always a problem
@banks18glc43 What tire size 21" summers did you come from and what tire size 20" winters did you change to?
Staggered 295/40/20 in rear and 265/45/20 in front avant-garde wheels and Michelin pilot alpin 5 winter.
The summer factory rims and tires are staggered 295/35/21 rear and 265/40/21 fronts.
May end up running the 20 combo (changing the tires in summer of course) and selling the stock 21s with tires. The benefit of 21s is only looks and cornering, which is minimal. I’d rather have an edge with quarter mile times and smaller rims are definitely better for that.
GLC 43 Coupe Crabbing 21” Conti Summer - Does DWS06 Fix It?
Dear AMG GLC 43 Coupe Owners,
Is anyone able to let me know if they have switched over to the 21” Continental DWS06 all season tires and if those tires solved the crabbing issue when the tires are cold?
I still have the 21” OEM Conti UHP Summer tires and they are crabbing like crazy.
Thanks in advance.
Dear AMG GLC 43 Coupe Owners,
Is anyone able to let me know if they have switched over to the 21” Continental DWS06 all season tires and if those tires solved the crabbing issue when the tires are cold?
I still have the 21” OEM Conti UHP Summer tires and they are crabbing like crazy.
Thanks in advance.
As a glc63s owner ( same suspension, same issues) can confirm, dws06+ fixed all the crazy crabbing car had with factory supplied ps4 tires. Original tires used to start crabbing with temp around 20C wet or 15C dry and around 10C it turned really ugly. . Outer side on the front ones were almost shot in like 8k kms while dws had lots of life in em left after 25k kms and they were looking like they are good for 10-15k more. Traction wise they are very good for what they are, i have piece of windy road with turns i used to fly through at 110-115kph with ps4 and dws were still holding there at 100+ and they held all the launches with 0 slipping. Comfort and noise wise dws were noticeably better so imo unless u want to bring it to the track or you drive at 180+ kph speeds often dws is a much better tire for daily driving.
Tire update - I just had Continental DWS06 Plus tires installed on my GLC 43 coupe this week.
265/40/21 and 295/35/21 on the OEM wheels.
So far, I have not felt any crabbing when the tires are cold (unlike the Continental ContiSportContact 5 UHP summer tires which crabbed like crazy below 70°F).
After 2018 MB redesign the steering knuckles and crabbing problems gone I heard. They was replacing by the warranty at first than stop it. If you have 21" setup any tyres make won't help. I run fresh Conty and crabbing still there.
After 2018 MB redesign the steering knuckles and crabbing problems gone I heard. They was replacing by the warranty at first than stop it. If you have 21" setup any tyres make won't help. I run fresh Conty and crabbing still there.
I’m not sure if Mercedes did any redesign on the knuckles on my particular model, but Fletcher Jones Mercedes mentioned to me that it was a known issue, but would not be covered under warranty. I have 21” wheels. The stock Conti summer tires crabbed at any temperature below 70°F. Once I replaced them with the DWS06 all season tires, the crabbing issue completely wet away at all temperatures.
