2020 V167 GLE
#26
MBWorld Fanatic!
I hope so. The details must be in the front and rear exterior visuals as the side looks exactly like what I have now LOL. Also, sure hope it has a flat load floor when the rear seats are folded down - that is a huge disappointment to me - I can't believe MBZ could not engineer a flat load floor.
#27
Senior Member
What do you mean by the term "flat load floor"?
#28
MBWorld Fanatic!
#29
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Lake Oswego, OR
Posts: 6,610
Received 1,189 Likes
on
856 Posts
2020 GLE 450; 2023 BMW M2 Coupe
Flat load floor
It's only the 5" thick folded seat bottoms, which nest against the back of the front seats, that protrude. The fuel tank is under the rear seats for safety, so I don't see how it would be done. Everything is a tradeoff. There are only a few times I've found the current arrangement a hindrance.
#31
MBWorld Fanatic!
I didn't know the seat bottoms go forward - just tried it and learned something - thanks nbukrey and fellow forum brothers. Don't know if rear seats folding is different in a GLE550e due to the huge trunk electric battery but I first purchased the PHEV and that's how the salesman demonstrated it and stated that was the as far as the seat backs went flat so I assumed all W166 were like that. I guess I love my W166 a little better now.
#32
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Lake Oswego, OR
Posts: 6,610
Received 1,189 Likes
on
856 Posts
2020 GLE 450; 2023 BMW M2 Coupe
OT: Rear seat folding
Well I'll be a monkey's uncle LOL Bet you guys haven't heard that statement in a while.
I didn't know the seat bottoms go forward - just tried it and learned something - thanks nbukrey and fellow forum brothers. Don't know if rear seats folding is different in a GLE550e due to the huge trunk electric battery but I first purchased the PHEV and that's how the salesman demonstrated it and stated that was the as far as the seat backs went flat so I assumed all W166 were like that. I guess I love my W166 a little better now.
I didn't know the seat bottoms go forward - just tried it and learned something - thanks nbukrey and fellow forum brothers. Don't know if rear seats folding is different in a GLE550e due to the huge trunk electric battery but I first purchased the PHEV and that's how the salesman demonstrated it and stated that was the as far as the seat backs went flat so I assumed all W166 were like that. I guess I love my W166 a little better now.
Last edited by GregW / Oregon; 05-15-2018 at 09:43 AM.
#36
MBWorld Fanatic!
I hope sooner than that! My dealer is saying world release in October with deliveries in the US in the December time frame. But as this thread has shown, information is scant and MBUSA is not exacting forthcoming about what they're working on. They want people to keep buying the current model as opposed to delaying a purchase for the new one, right?
#37
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Lake Oswego, OR
Posts: 6,610
Received 1,189 Likes
on
856 Posts
2020 GLE 450; 2023 BMW M2 Coupe
I hope sooner than that! My dealer is saying world release in October with deliveries in the US in the December time frame. But as this thread has shown, information is scant and MBUSA is not exacting forthcoming about what they're working on. They want people to keep buying the current model as opposed to delaying a purchase for the new one, right?
Last edited by GregW / Oregon; 05-21-2018 at 11:13 PM.
#38
Member
This is confusing.
According to this thread: https://mbworld.org/forums/gle-class...re-s-info.html
It states the 2019 W166 launch would be Summer 2018. Some of your are saying they will release the W167 in the fall 2018, some say spring 2019.
Would Mercedes (or any car manufacture) release an improved model only to release a newer improved model in such a short amount of time?
What's more of a head scratcher is why we haven't even seen a full reveal of the 2019 W166 model. Especially if it is supposed to be available
Summer 2018....which technically Summer starts in about a month!
According to this thread: https://mbworld.org/forums/gle-class...re-s-info.html
It states the 2019 W166 launch would be Summer 2018. Some of your are saying they will release the W167 in the fall 2018, some say spring 2019.
Would Mercedes (or any car manufacture) release an improved model only to release a newer improved model in such a short amount of time?
What's more of a head scratcher is why we haven't even seen a full reveal of the 2019 W166 model. Especially if it is supposed to be available
Summer 2018....which technically Summer starts in about a month!
Last edited by phoenixone; 05-22-2018 at 08:57 AM.
#39
MBWorld Fanatic!
#40
Member
There is no reveal of a 2019 W166 because there is nothing new to see - no real changes. The 2019 W166 ordering guide is posted here - https://mbworld.org/forums/gle-class...re-s-info.html
That's the same link that I posted with the same ordering guide for 2019 W166. It shows in the guide of a launch date of Summer 2018.
Even though there's no major changes to W166, supposedly it will have the new dash along with updated headlights and tail lights.
Also a few of our sales people also mentioned that 2019 W166 will be released in the summer but also mentioned it will be a short run model. :-)
#41
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Lake Oswego, OR
Posts: 6,610
Received 1,189 Likes
on
856 Posts
2020 GLE 450; 2023 BMW M2 Coupe
Upcoming GLE model schedule
This is confusing.
According to this thread: https://mbworld.org/forums/gle-class...re-s-info.html
It states the 2019 W166 launch would be Summer 2018. Some of your are saying they will release the W167 in the fall 2018, some say spring 2019.
Would Mercedes (or any car manufacture) release an improved model only to release a newer improved model in such a short amount of time?
What's more of a head scratcher is why we haven't even seen a full reveal of the 2019 W166 model. Especially if it is supposed to be available
Summer 2018....which technically Summer starts in about a month!
According to this thread: https://mbworld.org/forums/gle-class...re-s-info.html
It states the 2019 W166 launch would be Summer 2018. Some of your are saying they will release the W167 in the fall 2018, some say spring 2019.
Would Mercedes (or any car manufacture) release an improved model only to release a newer improved model in such a short amount of time?
What's more of a head scratcher is why we haven't even seen a full reveal of the 2019 W166 model. Especially if it is supposed to be available
Summer 2018....which technically Summer starts in about a month!
- 2019 W166 models start production in August, probably released September 1.
- 2020 W167 models out Q2 2019
Last edited by GregW / Oregon; 05-22-2018 at 12:15 PM.
#42
MBWorld Fanatic!
It just doesn't make much sense to have a 2019 with a limited run, but then who am I to question anything? I sure hope I don't have to wait till Q2 2019, but I'm not in a super hurry. I would place my order for the W167 tomorrow if I could. I think anyone who buys a 2019 and in just a few months sees a totally new, redesigned, inside and out GLE just a few months later will feel quite cheated and they'd have every right to feel that way. MB has had years now to get a new GLE ready for production. Both BMW and Audi will be releasing the new X5 and Q7 this fall. Mercedes will lose out as they are all new cars over the current models. Mercedes marches to their own beat anyway. The 2019 C class will finally have Car Play integration with Comand. The GLC for 2019 still won't. For the GLC it's still going to be one or the other, but not both. Seems unbelievable when you can buy a Honda for tens of thousands less that already offers that.
#43
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Lake Oswego, OR
Posts: 6,610
Received 1,189 Likes
on
856 Posts
2020 GLE 450; 2023 BMW M2 Coupe
W167 release schedule
It just doesn't make much sense to have a 2019 with a limited run, but then who am I to question anything? I sure hope I don't have to wait till Q2 2019, but I'm not in a super hurry. I would place my order for the W167 tomorrow if I could. I think anyone who buys a 2019 and in just a few months sees a totally new, redesigned, inside and out GLE just a few months later will feel quite cheated and they'd have every right to feel that way. MB has had years now to get a new GLE ready for production. Both BMW and Audi will be releasing the new X5 and Q7 this fall. Mercedes will lose out as they are all new cars over the current models. Mercedes marches to their own beat anyway. The 2019 C class will finally have Car Play integration with Comand. The GLC for 2019 still won't. For the GLC it's still going to be one or the other, but not both. Seems unbelievable when you can buy a Honda for tens of thousands less that already offers that.
#44
MBWorld Fanatic!
As far as the schedule goes, I'm sure M-B would have preferred a normal release date this year for the W167 (it's always been a 7-year model run); we may never know the reason it slipped but I think, as I've said before, the all new drivetrain with I-6, 48v electrical and mild hybrid function took longer to integrate than a normal update. Frankly, I bet half of Mercedes buyers have no clue about the model changeovers and just go to the showroom and buy what they like. It's still important even for those to have a 2019 with a few differences from the previous year. I just put in a W167 preorder with my salesperson.
#45
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Lake Oswego, OR
Posts: 6,610
Received 1,189 Likes
on
856 Posts
2020 GLE 450; 2023 BMW M2 Coupe
Pre-orders mean you are getting in an advance list with the dealer that hopefully prioritizes you when real ordering becomes available. Some dealers take maybe a $500 deposit, some don’t. I’ve done this on all my M-Class (GLE) and BMW Ms for the last 21 years. I often get the first customer car delivered at the dealer. At this point you are not negotiating price but the “order” is cancellable without penalty.
#46
MBWorld Fanatic!
Hey KEV. Thanks for replying.
That's the same link that I posted with the same ordering guide for 2019 W166. It shows in the guide of a launch date of Summer 2018.
Even though there's no major changes to W166, supposedly it will have the new dash along with updated headlights and tail lights.
Also a few of our sales people also mentioned that 2019 W166 will be released in the summer but also mentioned it will be a short run model. :-)
That's the same link that I posted with the same ordering guide for 2019 W166. It shows in the guide of a launch date of Summer 2018.
Even though there's no major changes to W166, supposedly it will have the new dash along with updated headlights and tail lights.
Also a few of our sales people also mentioned that 2019 W166 will be released in the summer but also mentioned it will be a short run model. :-)
I doubt there will be a new dash especially anything related to the E-Class dash and screens especially since the W167 with E-Class dash and screens is due in Q2 of 2019.
Last edited by E55 KEV; 05-23-2018 at 12:43 AM.
#47
MBWorld Fanatic!
Pre-orders mean you are getting in an advance list with the dealer that hopefully prioritizes you when real ordering becomes available. Some dealers take maybe a $500 deposit, some don’t. I’ve done this on all my M-Class (GLE) and BMW Ms for the last 21 years. I often get the first customer car delivered at the dealer. At this point you are not negotiating price but the “order” is cancellable without penalty.
#48
MBWorld Fanatic!
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Dallas TX
Posts: 4,846
Received 290 Likes
on
203 Posts
2013 650i Coupe, 2010 IS250 AWD, 1999 S500
It just doesn't make much sense to have a 2019 with a limited run, but then who am I to question anything? I sure hope I don't have to wait till Q2 2019, but I'm not in a super hurry. I would place my order for the W167 tomorrow if I could. I think anyone who buys a 2019 and in just a few months sees a totally new, redesigned, inside and out GLE just a few months later will feel quite cheated and they'd have every right to feel that way. MB has had years now to get a new GLE ready for production. Both BMW and Audi will be releasing the new X5 and Q7 this fall. Mercedes will lose out as they are all new cars over the current models. Mercedes marches to their own beat anyway. The 2019 C class will finally have Car Play integration with Comand. The GLC for 2019 still won't. For the GLC it's still going to be one or the other, but not both. Seems unbelievable when you can buy a Honda for tens of thousands less that already offers that.
M
#49
MBWorld Fanatic!
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Dallas TX
Posts: 4,846
Received 290 Likes
on
203 Posts
2013 650i Coupe, 2010 IS250 AWD, 1999 S500
As far as the schedule goes, I'm sure M-B would have preferred a normal release date this year for the W167 (it's always been a 7-year model run); we may never know the reason it slipped but I think, as I've said before, the all new drivetrain with I-6, 48v electrical and mild hybrid function took longer to integrate than a normal update. Frankly, I bet half of Mercedes buyers have no clue about the model changeovers and just go to the showroom and buy what they like. It's still important even for those to have a 2019 with a few differences from the previous year. I just put in a W167 preorder with my salesperson.
M
#50
MBWorld Fanatic!
If I purchased a 2019 at the beginning of the new model year and 3 or 4 months later, my new car was replaced with a newer model, I'd feel cheated. Mercedes is certainly hoping people don't do their due diligence and read about the upcoming future models. They don't want people [like us] holding off purchasing a car in anticipation of a completely redesigned model. As it is, your shiny new car is current for one model year. The next model year and your car is outdated. But if you bought a 2019 to find just a few short months later it was redesigned as an all new model, you didn't even get a full year of newness. Of course this is how I would feel and doesn't necessarily have to be how anyone else feels.