2019 GLE Guide - Not what I wanted - here's the info
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2019 GLE Guide - Not what I wanted - here's the info
Not what I wanted - but here is the info - as a fover please don't mention forum name - or my name - with your local dealer people - please..
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Thank you very much for making this available to us fabbrisd1!!!
If i'm reading this correctly, Active LED Headlamps are no longer a stand alone option and are only available in Premium Package 2 ????
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If i'm reading this correctly, Active LED Headlamps are no longer a stand alone option and are only available in Premium Package 2 ????
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WTF! - a 2019 W166 chassis is coming? Has the W167 been delayed to a 2020 model for the US? I thought the 2019 was to be the W167?
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This is unprecedented for Mercedes, as this model has always been on a 7-year cycle, and I've had the first of them all ('98, '05, '12). I could conjecture that the switch to the straight 6 with mild hybrid and 48v electrical is taking them extra time to refine, and sales of the existing are still good, but that's just a guess. I cannot see them going a full model year with this. Maybe a debut of the now 2020 W167 at the LA show in November/December, with late Winter launch?
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Omission? Or undecided?, or hiding?
Noticed that the 19’ guide pictures don’t show the center stack, or the nav screen? Perhaps the “ refresh” of W166 get the new dash in 19, and the new motor in 20’? W167
or... they are not proud to show the older current dash remains...just wondering....Puuchase decision looming with uncertainty...
or... they are not proud to show the older current dash remains...just wondering....Puuchase decision looming with uncertainty...
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Noticed that the 19’ guide pictures don’t show the center stack, or the nav screen? Perhaps the “ refresh” of W166 get the new dash in 19, and the new motor in 20’? W167
or... they are not proud to show the older current dash remains...just wondering....Puuchase decision looming with uncertainty...
or... they are not proud to show the older current dash remains...just wondering....Puuchase decision looming with uncertainty...
2. Certainly the driver's instruments would change to a new digital display at the same time (with likely optional full-width digital dash)
3. If it was new they would highlight it, not hide the fact
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I hope this changes considerably or I may have to go to something else. Mine will be at the sweet spot for me to upgrade in about 8-9 months and I was really hoping to get into a new model GLE.
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I was in MB Manhattan yesterday for my annual inspection and my salesman did tell me that the 2019 will be a short run and that 2020 is expected March of 2019. I don't know if that means announced date, but since my lease ends in April he said if needed we would extend a month or two if we need to wait for the 2020 which it appears will be the W167. When I ordered my 2016 GLE it was 2/9/2016 and I picked it up 4/9/2016 so I hope it will be the same lead time next year, or there will be stock to choose from.
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I was in MB Manhattan yesterday for my annual inspection and my salesman did tell me that the 2019 will be a short run and that 2020 is expected March of 2019. I don't know if that means announced date, but since my lease ends in April he said if needed we would extend a month or two if we need to wait for the 2020 which it appears will be the W167. When I ordered my 2016 GLE it was 2/9/2016 and I picked it up 4/9/2016 so I hope it will be the same lead time next year, or there will be stock to choose from.
My 2016 lease is up Dec '18 so I don't think they'll let us extend it for that long. Adding with the increased chance we would go over the lease mile cap, it seems we will fall short of getting the MY2020 :-(
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A 2019 March release seems very early for a MY2020 vehicle but i'll admit it's not unheard of.
My 2016 lease is up Dec '18 so I don't think they'll let us extend it for that long. Adding with the increased chance we would go over the lease mile cap, it seems we will fall short of getting the MY2020 :-(
My 2016 lease is up Dec '18 so I don't think they'll let us extend it for that long. Adding with the increased chance we would go over the lease mile cap, it seems we will fall short of getting the MY2020 :-(
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I've thought about the Velar but i've read/heard many times where people left Benz & BMW for Range Rover and vowed never to lease a Range Rover again and came back to Benz/BMW.
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Yeah I haven't spoken to anyone that has a LR/RR and loved it, I figure its a new model and next year they would have ironed out the kinks maybe? We looked at the X3 and decided it was too small and the X5 was too much money (once optioned) compared to the GLE. Also, the GLE was a better ride. I have to hope the W167 will have LED headlights as standard, the option we will all want will be the full LCD instrument cluster. Time will tell.
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Yeah I haven't spoken to anyone that has a LR/RR and loved it, I figure its a new model and next year they would have ironed out the kinks maybe? We looked at the X3 and decided it was too small and the X5 was too much money (once optioned) compared to the GLE. Also, the GLE was a better ride. I have to hope the W167 will have LED headlights as standard, the option we will all want will be the full LCD instrument cluster. Time will tell.
Not sure if Benz saw that people like us on forums like this one warn people that they will regret not ordering their vehicles with LED headlights and figured they'd hit us for more $ by removing it as a stand alone option (Lighting Package $1300 in the past) and forcing us to pay for P2. In my opinion, the options in the P2 package are mostly silly and I prefer not to have them.
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The LED headlights not being standard burns me. What's worse, it's now a P2 option! GRRRRR! Want to hear another kicker? Dealer told me It's not even standard an the GLE AMG!!!!
Not sure if Benz saw that people like us on forums like this one warn people that they will regret not ordering their vehicles with LED headlights and figured they'd hit us for more $ by removing it as a stand alone option (Lighting Package $1300 in the past) and forcing us to pay for P2. In my opinion, the options in the P2 package are mostly silly and I prefer not to have them.
Not sure if Benz saw that people like us on forums like this one warn people that they will regret not ordering their vehicles with LED headlights and figured they'd hit us for more $ by removing it as a stand alone option (Lighting Package $1300 in the past) and forcing us to pay for P2. In my opinion, the options in the P2 package are mostly silly and I prefer not to have them.
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I was contacted by my dealer in in mid-February to be put on an "order list" for the upcoming W167. I was surprised to not hear anything from them since then, and after coming across this thread, I reached out and was told the same thing: short 2019 MY, late 2018 or early 2019 calendar year release for the W167 (as 2020 MY).
I'm sure the dealers are almost as disappointed as the consumers (mine was), but I'm hopeful that the delay will address the typical growing pains that accompany both face lifts and chassis changeovers. This is simply conjecture, but the future models section of MBUSA's website is rather crowded at the moment, and most of the models there aren't your typical 3-year face lift. As Mercedes continues its move to a more modular design approach, I see the MHA delay as a way to spread the risk of dramatic change over a greater period in time. I don't know about you guys, but the service drive at my local dealership is always packed, and I can only imagine how much worse it could get if all these new models released in such a short period of time. While this is just my opinion, it's probably a combination of things, including some things that we'll never know.
Regardless, I can only hope that a rather bland ordering guide for the 2019 MY indicates the time frame we've been told is accurate.
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The 3rd generation Porsche Cayenne will be all new for the 2019 model year. Both the Cayenne 1st and 2nd generation ran for 8 years and now the W166 is a 8 year chassis with the W167 now coming as a 2020 model. I wonder if this has something to do with the change from 7 to 8 years for the W166 and moving the W167 to 2020?
2019 Cayenne Review:
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/porsc...-drive-review/
2019 Cayenne Review:
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/porsc...-drive-review/
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Additionally,
"BMW is expected to introduce its redesigned X5 this year, as a 2019 model. The X5 M should arrive a year later, most likely as a 2020 model. Arriving around the same time should also be an X6 M."
https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...hots-and-video
"BMW is expected to introduce its redesigned X5 this year, as a 2019 model. The X5 M should arrive a year later, most likely as a 2020 model. Arriving around the same time should also be an X6 M."
https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...hots-and-video
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The 3rd generation Porsche Cayenne will be all new for the 2019 model year. Both the Cayenne 1st and 2nd generation ran for 8 years and now the W166 is a 8 year chassis with the W167 now coming as a 2020 model. I wonder if this has something to do with the change from 7 to 8 years for the W166 and moving the W167 to 2020?
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Others release schedule is considered and the reason MBZ, BMW and Audi introduce their latest executive sedans, the E-Class, 5-Series and A6 in staggered years. 2017 (E-Class), 2018 (5-Series) and 2019 (A6) respectively. It's not a coincidence - manufactures rarely introduce competing models in the same year. I've seen this done for the last 3/4 generations of the German Manufactures and others makers. Heck, Ford would never introduce a new Mustang the same year Chevy introduces a new Camaro and vice-versa. New F-150 not released same year as new Silverado etc. etc. etc. Research will show the same for competing models like C-Class (2015), 3-Series (2012), A4 (2016) and throw in the Guilia (2017).