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Old Aug 11, 2021 | 09:54 PM
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I put the Alpine 5 on my vehicle a month ago and yesterday Pittsburgh was hit with the Nor'easter going up the coast. Drove through 7-8 inches of snow fine and even through the packed deeper crude the snowplow leaves at top of the driveway. Thanks for the recommendation
...and you can also go 149 mph when there's not snow on the ground (or can you?)?
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Just signed up to look for some guidance on getting winter tire/wheel setup for the wife's 2019 GLE 43. We live on 10 acres in rural WA state and will have a mix of snow and wet/icy conditions.

Stock wheels are 22" but looking to pick up a wheel/tire combo for the winters here. I've read through here and some folks are running 19x8.5 it looks like for winter setups, wasn't sure that would clear the rotors and brakes though. Tirerack doesn't show many options and I know a lot of tires are backordered. Any guidance is very much appreciated.
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Old Oct 13, 2021 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by shaggy1
Just signed up to look for some guidance on getting winter tire/wheel setup for the wife's 2019 GLE 43. We live on 10 acres in rural WA state and will have a mix of snow and wet/icy conditions.

Stock wheels are 22" but looking to pick up a wheel/tire combo for the winters here. I've read through here and some folks are running 19x8.5 it looks like for winter setups, wasn't sure that would clear the rotors and brakes though. Tirerack doesn't show many options and I know a lot of tires are backordered. Any guidance is very much appreciated.
The 2019 is the prior Gen so you might get better feedback on that Forum. There is nothing wrong with 20”…they work and there is a large tire selection. Discount tire is another source of fitment options. Since you have staggered wheels on the 43 the fitment options they list are limited unless you look at the non AMG model options that will probably also work on your car. I would check the non AMG and then use the Tire Size Calculator to compare to stock…http://www.rimsntires.com/specspro.jsp
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Old Oct 13, 2021 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Ron.s
The 2019 is the prior Gen so you might get better feedback on that Forum. There is nothing wrong with 20”…they work and there is a large tire selection. Discount tire is another source of fitment options. Since you have staggered wheels on the 43 the fitment options they list are limited unless you look at the non AMG model options that will probably also work on your car. I would check the non AMG and then use the Tire Size Calculator to compare to stock…http://www.rimsntires.com/specspro.jsp

Thanks! That's helpful and I'll check the other forum too.
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Old Oct 13, 2021 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by shaggy1
Just signed up to look for some guidance on getting winter tire/wheel setup for the wife's 2019 GLE 43. We live on 10 acres in rural WA state and will have a mix of snow and wet/icy conditions.

Stock wheels are 22" but looking to pick up a wheel/tire combo for the winters here. I've read through here and some folks are running 19x8.5 it looks like for winter setups, wasn't sure that would clear the rotors and brakes though. Tirerack doesn't show many options and I know a lot of tires are backordered. Any guidance is very much appreciated.
As Ron.s says, the W166 wheel and tire specs are different. The V167 upsized tires (except for the 19s for some odd reason) and the wheel lug bolts and lug cap are different size, not to mention offset differences.
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Old Oct 14, 2021 | 02:52 PM
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Old Oct 14, 2021 | 03:17 PM
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Just had mine mounted today...
Are those the stock GLE53 20" wheels?

Does anybody know if they would fit the Red Calipers (ARC suspension package)?

I need to find a winter combo soon, as everything I look at is already Out of Stock or Back-ordered. Short supplies!
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Old Oct 14, 2021 | 03:20 PM
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Are those the stock GLE53 20" wheels?

Does anybody know if they would fit the Red Calipers (ARC suspension package)?

I need to find a winter combo soon, as everything I look at is already Out of Stock or Back-ordered. Short supplies!
No they aren't. These are 3rd party wheels and I bought them from my dealer.
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Old Oct 14, 2021 | 05:30 PM
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Just had mine mounted today...
Those are what I and Ron.s are running - work great.
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Old Nov 10, 2021 | 08:07 PM
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Switched on the Winters today - headed over the mountain pass to Central Oregon on Friday.


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Old Nov 11, 2021 | 12:19 AM
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Welp, wife decided to buy a Tesla so I ended up purchasing snow tires and wheels for that. Given the way she tries other cars and then comes back to MB I'm sure I'll be asking for suggestions on snow tires for her new GLE in about 12 months
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Old Nov 11, 2021 | 10:05 AM
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Old Nov 11, 2021 | 10:43 AM
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Costco & Discount Tire have rebates on some tires also. Costco listed Michelin’s at $150 as I recall.
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Old Nov 11, 2021 | 10:48 AM
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Costco & Discount Tire have rebates on some tires also. Costco listed Michelin’s at $150 as I recall.
Yeah, $70 on the tires and $80 worth of mounting. I was able to get the full $150 on the tires a couple years ago and had them mounted elsewhere.
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Old Nov 12, 2021 | 10:33 AM
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Hakka R3's on 20x9 Mandrus Ottos, ET45 on the front and ET25 on the rear to maintain the staggered look and keep the tires flush. I expected the rears to be more concave than the fronts, but rather than changing the spoke design, Mandrus adjusts the offsets by simply varying the thickness of the hub. In my case, the rears basically have 20mm spacers built in. Unfortunately, since MB changed the lug bolt spec for the V167, the factory bolts wouldn't work -- something I didn't learn until I first attempted to bolt them on. Had I known I was going to need new bolts, I might have widened my search to include other brands. Regardless, the wheel look is acceptable, and past experience tells me the tires will work great. Now I need to figure out why the sensors aren't communicating with the car.






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Old Nov 12, 2021 | 10:41 AM
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Hakka R3's on 20x9 Mandrus Ottos, ET45 on the front and ET25 on the rear to maintain the staggered look and keep the tires flush. I expected the rears to be more concave than the fronts, but rather than changing the spoke design, Mandrus adjusts the offsets by simply varying the thickness of the hub. In my case, the rears basically have 20mm spacers built in. Unfortunately, since MB changed the lug bolt spec for the V167, the factory bolts wouldn't work -- something I didn't learn until I first attempted to bolt them on. (That's going to cause some headaches for TSW, who promotes their Mandrus brand wheels as direct bolt-on fitments for MB models.) Had I known I was going to need new bolts, I might have widened my search to include other brands. Regardless, the wheel look is acceptable, and past experience tells me the tires will work great. Now I need to figure out why the sensors aren't communicating with the car.
You can drill out the lug holes on the wheels (something you probably won't want to do on new wheels). Worked for me on my W166 wheels. I got custom titanium bolts for the rears which I use 12mm spacers with to maintain stock offset.


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[QUOTE=HotRodW;8453661]Hakka R3's on 20x9 Mandrus Ottos, ET45 on the front and ET25 on the rear to maintain the staggered look and keep the tires flush. I expected the rears to be more concave than the fronts, but rather than changing the spoke design, Mandrus adjusts the offsets by simply varying the thickness of the hub. In my case, the rears basically have 20mm spacers built in. Unfortunately, since MB changed the lug bolt spec for the V167, the factory bolts wouldn't work -- something I didn't learn until I first attempted to bolt them on. (That's going to cause some headaches for TSW, who promotes their Mandrus brand wheels as direct bolt-on fitments for MB models.) Had I known I was going to need new bolts, I might have widened my search to include other brands. Regardless, the wheel look is acceptable, and past experience tells me the tires will work great. Now I need to figure out why the sensors aren't communicating with the car.

I bought my sensors from Tire Rack and they automatically reset but it takes about a mile, maybe two, after changeover. Most aftermarket wheels are shaped for conical bolt heads (Mercedes has ball seat) so it’s more than the bolt length or diameter in many cases.
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Old Nov 12, 2021 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by HotRodW
Hakka R3's on 20x9 Mandrus Ottos, ET45 on the front and ET25 on the rear to maintain the staggered look and keep the tires flush. I expected the rears to be more concave than the fronts, but rather than changing the spoke design, Mandrus adjusts the offsets by simply varying the thickness of the hub. In my case, the rears basically have 20mm spacers built in. Unfortunately, since MB changed the lug bolt spec for the V167, the factory bolts wouldn't work -- something I didn't learn until I first attempted to bolt them on. (That's going to cause some headaches for TSW, who promotes their Mandrus brand wheels as direct bolt-on fitments for MB models.) Had I known I was going to need new bolts, I might have widened my search to include other brands. Regardless, the wheel look is acceptable, and past experience tells me the tires will work great. Now I need to figure out why the sensors aren't communicating with the car.

I bought my sensors from Tire Rack and they automatically reset but it takes about a mile, maybe two, after changeover. Most aftermarket wheels are shaped for conical bolt heads (Mercedes has ball seat) so it’s more than the bolt length or diameter in many cases.
To clarify, the distributor assured me the factory bolts would work when I placed the order. I should have questioned it, because the Mandrus wheels on our GLC uses different bolts even though they're designed specifically for Mercedes. Whether it was his mistake or bad info in his database really doesn't matter. The correct bolts are shorter, and they are indeed conical.

I drove the car 10 miles, as I always do after a changeover, but rather than automatically resetting, I got the message below. I know how to manually reset our GLC from the steering wheel if I need to, but the procedure for the GLE is not the same. If anybody knows how to reset, please save me some time and chime in.



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You can drill out the lug holes on the wheels (something you probably won't want to do on new wheels). Worked for me on my W166 wheels. I got custom titanium bolts for the rears which I use 12mm spacers with to maintain stock offset.
The bolt diameter wasn't the problem - that was fine. It was bolt length and seat type that caused me problems.

I applaud your creativity. I'm pretty handy in the garage, but that's not something I would have done. Did you do it because you couldn't find wheels that fit properly, or because you really liked that wheel design?
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I’m going to guess you don’t have compatible sensors. They may have changed with the new Gen…someone bought a set from the Dealer for a prior Gen that didn’t work. You can do a reset by using the left steering wheel pad…home swipe to service, down to tire pressure, hold a few seconds for reset. I think the car has to be on Acc or running.
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I’m going to guess you don’t have compatible sensors. They may have changed with the new Gen…someone bought a set from the Dealer for a prior Gen that didn’t work. You can do a reset by using the left steering wheel pad…home swipe to service, down to tire pressure, hold a few seconds for reset. I think the car has to be on Acc or running.
Already tried that, too. It will not reset - probably because it's not finding any sensors to reset. Discount Tire screwed up everything else on the order, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised that they installed the wrong sensors, too.

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Originally Posted by HotRodW
The bolt diameter wasn't the problem - that was fine. It was bolt length and seat type that caused me problems.

I applaud your creativity. I'm pretty handy in the garage, but that's not something I would have done. Did you do it because you couldn't find wheels that fit properly, or because you really liked that wheel design?
I used those because I had them left from my previous ‘15 ML. Where did you end up getting bolts from?
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I used those because I had them left from my previous ‘15 ML. Where did you end up getting bolts from?
I ordered Bimecc bolts through Discount Tire.
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I ordered Bimecc bolts through Discount Tire.
Bimecc doesn’t show any M15 ball seat bolts in their catalog - must be new.
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Bimecc doesn’t show any M15 ball seat bolts in their catalog - must be new.
The Mandrus use a cone seat lug. Discount Tire incorrectly thought they would use the factory bolts.
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