Safety Recall (Interior Switch Illumination) makes no sense
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Safety Recall (Interior Switch Illumination) makes no sense
"If the driver were to activate the hazard lights while the ignition is switched off, the hazard light would continue to flash as intended" but other illumination might be deactivated ... increasing the risk of a crash.
How do you crash if the ignition is off?
I think this one can wait until the pandemic is over. I'll just tell wife not to operate the hazard lights and drive with the ignition off...
How do you crash if the ignition is off?
I think this one can wait until the pandemic is over. I'll just tell wife not to operate the hazard lights and drive with the ignition off...
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"If the driver were to activate the hazard lights while the ignition is switched off, the hazard light would continue to flash as intended" but other illumination might be deactivated ... increasing the risk of a crash.
How do you crash if the ignition is off?
I think this one can wait until the pandemic is over. I'll just tell wife not to operate the hazard lights and drive with the ignition off...
How do you crash if the ignition is off?
I think this one can wait until the pandemic is over. I'll just tell wife not to operate the hazard lights and drive with the ignition off...
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"If the driver were to activate the hazard lights while the ignition is switched off, the hazard light would continue to flash as intended" but other illumination might be deactivated ... increasing the risk of a crash.
How do you crash if the ignition is off?
I think this one can wait until the pandemic is over. I'll just tell wife not to operate the hazard lights and drive with the ignition off...
How do you crash if the ignition is off?
I think this one can wait until the pandemic is over. I'll just tell wife not to operate the hazard lights and drive with the ignition off...
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Nah, because the part I left out was "If the interior light switches are not illuminated, they may be more difficult to find and operate, increasing the risk of a crash."
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Here is the full message:
So in short, if someone start the engine after they have the hazard light on, the interior light will remain off.
Mercedes-Benz AG, (“MBAG”), the manufacturer of Mercedes-Benz vehicles, has determined that in certain Model Year (“MY”) 2020-2021 CLA-Class (118 platform), GLE-Class (167 platform) and GLS-Class (X167 platform) vehicles, the instrument cluster software might not meet current production specifications. If the driver were to activate the hazard lights while the ignition is switched off, the hazard light switch would continue to flash as intended, but the illumination of the additional switches in the vehicle (e.g. switch bar, overhead control unit, steering wheel, etc.) might be deactivated. If the driver were to switch off the hazard lights during this ignition-off, the switch illumination would be activated again throughout the vehicle as soon as the ignition is switched on. However, if the driver were to start the engine while the hazard lights are still switched on, the illumination of the vehicle interior switches would stay deactivated until the hazard lights are switched off and a new ignition cycle initiated. If the interior light switches are not illuminated, they may be more difficult to find and operate, increasing the risk of a crash. Furthermore, the switch illumination might not comply with all the requirements of FMVSS 101 5.3.1. The functions of the hazard lights and the overhead control unit as well as all switches would not be affected. All interior cabin lighting remains fully functional.
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I went out and tested. Nothing else to do right?
Turned on hazards. Then turned on car. No difference. I opened car door and red light still on. Maybe I'm not affected?
Plus, there are NO INTERIOR SWITCHES of any importance. There's nothing to touch that isn't also on the touch screens. Window switches, cruise control on the wheel, HVAC. Big whoop. What switch would I need to activate?
Can't believe they had to issue a recall over this one.
Turned on hazards. Then turned on car. No difference. I opened car door and red light still on. Maybe I'm not affected?
Plus, there are NO INTERIOR SWITCHES of any importance. There's nothing to touch that isn't also on the touch screens. Window switches, cruise control on the wheel, HVAC. Big whoop. What switch would I need to activate?
Can't believe they had to issue a recall over this one.
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According to the recall, there are only 2101 cars affected spanning across CLA, GLE, and GLS. And out of those, only about 1000 of them are sold/leased.
Also, I think its not the light that doesn't work, but the "illumination of the additional switches in the vehicle" that might stop working. So gear lever, windows switch, etc?
Here is the link to the recall
https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/202...0V089-7146.pdf
Also, I think its not the light that doesn't work, but the "illumination of the additional switches in the vehicle" that might stop working. So gear lever, windows switch, etc?
Here is the link to the recall
https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/202...0V089-7146.pdf
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Thanks for this information.
My "not yet delivered" GLE 350 4M was held up at my dealer because of this recall. Then COVID19 shut down all sales departments in NJ. I guess MBUSA views this issue serious enough to hold off new car deliveries. I wonder if the reprograming is available to fix this when the dealer sales re opens.
My "not yet delivered" GLE 350 4M was held up at my dealer because of this recall. Then COVID19 shut down all sales departments in NJ. I guess MBUSA views this issue serious enough to hold off new car deliveries. I wonder if the reprograming is available to fix this when the dealer sales re opens.
