Discounts and Prices Paid
09-22-2020, 08:41 PM
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I’ve got some new inputs. Since my build is getting close (not red yet) I have seriously started looking around and trying to get some idea of pricing since I only got pricing from my dealer very, very recently, 3%. Therefore I have looked at some used ones and news ones on lots to get some ideas of where I am at. I have only asked for pricing on 580’s only.
Two used 580s that physically I looked at. First one was below 5k miles and they offered it up at 83. But it was in bad shape so I passed. The second had less than 2k miles and was nice, had a few options I really needed missing, but they were still asking sticker. I then called about another used one which had about 3k and they were at about 96 on a 100k build and would not move. I also found another one with about 2100k miles and they were asking almost MSRP on it.
I then moved to new and started calling what I found close to a build I wanted. The first dealership moved about a thousand but had a $699 doc fee if I remember correctly and a tag/process fee of about $200. The second one actually chuckled a little bit when I asked for any discount. The third one is supposedly “seeing what they can do” after I told him what I had on my original build.
Anyone else with input on 580s?
Two used 580s that physically I looked at. First one was below 5k miles and they offered it up at 83. But it was in bad shape so I passed. The second had less than 2k miles and was nice, had a few options I really needed missing, but they were still asking sticker. I then called about another used one which had about 3k and they were at about 96 on a 100k build and would not move. I also found another one with about 2100k miles and they were asking almost MSRP on it.
I then moved to new and started calling what I found close to a build I wanted. The first dealership moved about a thousand but had a $699 doc fee if I remember correctly and a tag/process fee of about $200. The second one actually chuckled a little bit when I asked for any discount. The third one is supposedly “seeing what they can do” after I told him what I had on my original build.
Anyone else with input on 580s?
09-22-2020, 09:23 PM
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BAC, used 580s must be rare and expensive - nothing would surprise me. I was looking at a very well equipped demo GLE 350 with 7,000 miles on it and a ding down to bare metal on the passenger door, and MB of South Charlotte started at sticker price on it. Given how rare the 580 is, I'd imagine it only gets worse from there.
09-23-2020, 11:58 AM
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Or even worse the sales people that are right on the spot with emails and calls seemingly disappear when you start asking them for a price. 3 have been really good at wanting me to “come in as soon as possible” but when I start asking specific questions about pricing, options on the car, doc/admin fees, or something else beside walking in the dealership, poof......they’re gone.
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09-23-2020, 12:16 PM
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Or even worse the sales people that are right on the spot with emails and calls seemingly disappear when you start asking them for a price. 3 have been really good at wanting me to “come in as soon as possible” but when I start asking specific questions about pricing, options on the car, doc/admin fees, or something else beside walking in the dealership, poof......their gone.
09-23-2020, 12:51 PM
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Why not take the one you ordered. You are lucky they are giving you any discount on a 580. They would love to see you cancel. Besides this is exactly what you wanted.. What is an extra 1K or 2, for the right car. How long are you going to keep it? If it’s three years, it’s 300 per year.. that’s the price of an oil change. Don’t be foolish, pick up your car and thank them..
09-23-2020, 01:37 PM
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Why not take the one you ordered. You are lucky they are giving you any discount on a 580. They would love to see you cancel. Besides this is exactly what you wanted.. What is an extra 1K or 2, for the right car. How long are you going to keep it? If it’s three years, it’s 300 per year.. that’s the price of an oil change. Don’t be foolish, pick up your car and thank them..
09-23-2020, 04:42 PM
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As of now, I am. Like I said before I only received the 3% “very, very” recently after I had to pin down my buying dealership. I was telling and hopefully helping others in the quest for trying to negotiate a good price. (I’m also calling out others on this forum that shout they got 8, 9, 10 or above percent off without any facts.)
09-23-2020, 06:50 PM
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From what I have been reading on the forums, no one is getting a big discount on a 580. In Canada, they are not even offered for sale here. I would have bought that instead of the 53 for the same money. And that is especially true when I found out it has the all new 48 volt system. Don’t miss out on this hard to get model. You are doing good with 3%. 8% and 10% is bs.
10-05-2020, 11:12 AM
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Recently leased GLE 450. Northern California dealers have tons of GLE 350's but very few 450's. It's my first MB. I have taken MB SUV test drives in the past every time I purchased or leased a new vehicle, and MB was nice but not worth the higher price to me. Same thing this time when I drove the GLE 350, but when I drove the GLE 450 I fell in love with the ride and handling and decided to take the plunge (and expense) to move up. I used "True Car" in the past to get discounts, similar to the Costco Auto program, usually about 4% below MSRP is typical. True Car referred me to a dealer almost an hour away and that's where I drove the GLE 450. Local dealer very close to me had no 450's, just lots of 350's. I think it's the extra acceleration of the electric boost in the 450 plus the electronic dampening of the standard 450 suspension that caught my attention. Anyway, after the test drive I found an old friend retiring from MB and he had a spare friends and family discount voucher that should have given me 12.5% off MSRP. The dealer said 450's are so rare they typically get several $K over MSRP. That is when I should have walked away, and shopped other dealers, definitely a red flag. I did my home work prior to this and knew that 450's were not plentiful and none in a several hundred mile radius were exactly what I was looking for. Bottom line, I got 7.5% off MSRP when I should have gotten at least 12.5 off MSRP, but the one they had in stock was probably closer to what I wanted than anything else within a 400 mile radius.. Ideally I'd rather pay for the driver assistance package, comfort seats (massage), and acoustic comfort package instead of the 3rd row seats and running boards that I did get (and pay for). Overall I'm VERY happy with the vehicle, but need to brush up on my negotiating skills next time and be ready to walk away. If I had walked away and ordered the vehicle equipped to my precise preference I would have to wait 3-4 months and probably pay the same price (more options but bigger discount), but get the vehicle I really want.
The vehicle I got has AMG exterior trim, but not the night package. IMO, night package only worth getting on a black paint exterior color. I have the Espresso Brown interior (MB Tex) and light grey headliner with natural walnut wood trim which gives a nice warm feel to the interior and the light grey headliner keeps the interior from being too dark. The sunshade on the panoramic sunroof is also a nice touch to get extra light without getting fried in the bright sun. Premium package is essential. Ventilated seats help to take the scorch out of a hot day in the sun, but don't actually have coolant/refrigeration. The seats are incredible compared to the Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit I was driving. I see occasional reports of thieves stealing catalytic converters, but personally I think there would be a bigger black market for stolen seats from this vehicle. I drove a 580 with Airmatic suspension and was not overly impressed that it was worth the extra expense, but it may be worthwhile if you do offroad driving or tow large objects/trailers. I did not get a chance to drive the E-Active Body Control suspension
The vehicle I got has AMG exterior trim, but not the night package. IMO, night package only worth getting on a black paint exterior color. I have the Espresso Brown interior (MB Tex) and light grey headliner with natural walnut wood trim which gives a nice warm feel to the interior and the light grey headliner keeps the interior from being too dark. The sunshade on the panoramic sunroof is also a nice touch to get extra light without getting fried in the bright sun. Premium package is essential. Ventilated seats help to take the scorch out of a hot day in the sun, but don't actually have coolant/refrigeration. The seats are incredible compared to the Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit I was driving. I see occasional reports of thieves stealing catalytic converters, but personally I think there would be a bigger black market for stolen seats from this vehicle. I drove a 580 with Airmatic suspension and was not overly impressed that it was worth the extra expense, but it may be worthwhile if you do offroad driving or tow large objects/trailers. I did not get a chance to drive the E-Active Body Control suspension
I'm also looking to order 2021 GLE with Espresso Brown interior (MB Tex) with natural walnut wood trim, but prefer dark headliner. The problem is that I cannot find such combination to see in person. I saw an Espresso Brown real leather at the dealer but don't know if it's the same color like MB Tex. Is it possible to post some pictures on the interior? I still have to decide the exterior color but I'm leaning toward Emerald Green or Lunar Blue. I hope will go with the brown interior.
10-05-2020, 02:27 PM
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From what I have been reading on the forums, no one is getting a big discount on a 580. In Canada, they are not even offered for sale here. I would have bought that instead of the 53 for the same money. And that is especially true when I found out it has the all new 48 volt system. Don’t miss out on this hard to get model. You are doing good with 3%. 8% and 10% is bs.
10-05-2020, 02:39 PM
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Because so many members get on here and claim it with little to no proof.
Tell us about your deal then? Ordered? Off the lot? 580? 53? (I’m assuming most on here, like myself, are more concerned with US deals though). What did you managed to negotiate? When? Where?
Tell us about your deal then? Ordered? Off the lot? 580? 53? (I’m assuming most on here, like myself, are more concerned with US deals though). What did you managed to negotiate? When? Where?
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10-05-2020, 03:32 PM
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Another factor is trade or cash. Trade deals are hard to compare since the discount on new can be lost with the trade allowance. Book value might be lower than actual since there is a shortage of used.
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10-05-2020, 04:00 PM
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There’s no parts to build the cars so I imagine the lines are on stop.
driving up demand of the inventory already out there.
I waited four months for an air con sensor and still waiting (2 months) for a replacement drivers carpet where the pile has unglued.
driving up demand of the inventory already out there.
I waited four months for an air con sensor and still waiting (2 months) for a replacement drivers carpet where the pile has unglued.
10-05-2020, 05:35 PM
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Ordered first on in May, second one in August both 14-17% discount (Won't know for sure before I ask for the paperwork) One on 3-year lease, one cash trade.
We buy MB trucks, vans and cars for $1-1,1 million a year, but I know one-time customers getting 7-8% on custom builds.
10-05-2020, 09:56 PM
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My GLE 350 order was placed today (obsidian black, MB-Tex & DINAMICA, night package, 20 inch AMG wheels, AMG interior, premium, pano, and exterior lighting package). I am hoping that with the winter event they can get my at the absolute minimum 10% off which I think should be doable. For my E300 that the dealership had to do a dealer trade for I got 12% discount without doing any negotiating with the sales rep.
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10-05-2020, 10:17 PM
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So this should be a fantastic deal then for someone.
https://www.mercedesofbuckhead.com/u...c40fea1bc2.htm
I test drove it and passed on it when it was at 84k a few weeks ago.
https://www.mercedesofbuckhead.com/u...c40fea1bc2.htm
I test drove it and passed on it when it was at 84k a few weeks ago.
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10-06-2020, 04:41 AM
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My son picked up a 2020 GLE580 from inventory and got about 2.5% off. I have a 2021 GLE580 from same dealer being built late November and I am looking for the same 2.5% off. No clue how some claim 10% - 12% off, why would a dealer do that with a car that's in demand. I have to agree on the BS comment above. No clue why people think anyone cares what they paid, why not post up what you made last year instead.
10-06-2020, 08:58 AM
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My son picked up a 2020 GLE580 from inventory and got about 2.5% off. I have a 2021 GLE580 from same dealer being built late November and I am looking for the same 2.5% off. No clue how some claim 10% - 12% off, why would a dealer do that with a car that's in demand. I have to agree on the BS comment above. No clue why people think anyone cares what they paid, why not post up what you made last year instead.
There are some people that are hard to figure. We all want a fair price but some apparently think price is more important than the vehicle itself. I’m still scratching my head over a decision by one forum member, won’t mention a name. He opened pricing threads on this forum and Audi that I know about. Seemed like he wanted either an Audi or a Mercedes from his comments. He was negotiating discount and asking for examples of large discounts, disappointed at 3-4% being offered him. Checked with BMW later and bought one because they gave him the 10% discount he wanted...not much about vehicle likes, accessories or features...only price shopping.
One might get a more satisfactory long term result by first deciding on the best vehicle for your needs, a good Dealership and then a fair price.
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10-06-2020, 03:41 PM
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My son picked up a 2020 GLE580 from inventory and got about 2.5% off. I have a 2021 GLE580 from same dealer being built late November and I am looking for the same 2.5% off. No clue how some claim 10% - 12% off, why would a dealer do that with a car that's in demand. I have to agree on the BS comment above. No clue why people think anyone cares what they paid, why not post up what you made last year instead.
Why would anyone care what anyone made last year?
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10-06-2020, 04:46 PM
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If you spend 1,000,000+ a year with the dealer for 15 years you should probably be getting a even better discount.
10-06-2020, 10:08 PM
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I was able to get 8.5% off an ordered GLE 450 2020. You can see my pics on the stickered picture post. The dealership in my city could not do more than 2 to 3% off. The dealership in another city that I had used previously could not do more than 5%. I had to message about 10 dealers, hours from where I live. Some said 5%, some 7%. Finally, a dealership that was 4 hours away gave me 8.5%. This was in June 2020. I had ordered the car from a dealer about 2 hours away in March 2020 without discussing discounts. I was able to get that dealership to match the discount. So I settled for 8.5%. When I was picking up the car last month, my SA said he was sure they would not give this kind of discount during this period, given how difficult it is to find a 450.
Point is, different dealerships go about discounts differently. Some will not negotiate at all and some do.
Point is, different dealerships go about discounts differently. Some will not negotiate at all and some do.
02-10-2021, 11:46 AM
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From what I have been reading on the forums, no one is getting a big discount on a 580. In Canada, they are not even offered for sale here. I would have bought that instead of the 53 for the same money. And that is especially true when I found out it has the all new 48 volt system. Don’t miss out on this hard to get model. You are doing good with 3%. 8% and 10% is bs.
No it’s now BS, I helped out a friend with his 2020 GLE 300 and we were able to negotiate 10% from MSRP. Our MSRP is $60,205 and negotiated for $53,600. I suppose it depends on what model/trim you get. But that was our deal.
I’m sure they will say we are not making any from the your offer price, and that is total BS. Remember they buy these cars in bulk orders.
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02-10-2021, 12:11 PM
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No it’s now BS, I helped out a friend with his 2020 GLE 300 and we were able to negotiate 10% from MSRP. Our MSRP is $60,205 and negotiated for $53,600. I suppose it depends on what model/trim you get. But that was our deal.
I’m sure they will say we are not making any from the your offer price, and that is total BS. Remember they buy these cars in bulk orders.
I’m sure they will say we are not making any from the your offer price, and that is total BS. Remember they buy these cars in bulk orders.
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