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Old Jan 25, 2021 | 09:06 AM
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If those sources make money by publishing erroneous information,
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I wonder how much money one makes by saying this vehicle is limited to 112 mph! Does BMW pay them? Since at this time you can't prove otherwise - perhaps you can make some money with your own fake news by saying it's 155 mph! LOL!
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Old Jan 25, 2021 | 09:09 AM
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I confess to mistakes sometimes in technology reviews and news I write. We do a correction if info is reveealed to be incorrect. When I write product reviews, I submit to the manufacturer for fact checking. They may choose to dispute a conclusion and I could be open to seeing things differently, but at times I do not. But writers to strive to be conscientious want facts. I agree that certainly publications are more irksome than others.
It would be nice if you were the norm but there seem to be too many free lance news people looking to make up a news story rather than research it. There just don’t seem to be any Walter Cronkite types in the Broadcast news media today either.

IMO, most news today is fake news but maybe l’m stretching the true definition. The news is seldom objective so it’s slanted or it’s over dramatized to draw eyeballs. Even schools seem to teach from a biased perspective. How many would have believed 5 years ago that “White Fragility” would become a required subject anywhere. Or that parents wouldn’t have much say about a child’s education in public schools.

Then we have added the power of Social Media and you have to wonder how a person today will ever sort out facts rather than be brain washed to trending viewpoints.

I keep reading that the majority of US citizens don’t trust the Media today but it’s like Mikapen said earlier...you hear the same story repeated enough and people start to believe it. I’m thinking about the slogan “The Best or Nothing” at the moment.
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Old Jan 25, 2021 | 09:23 AM
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you hear the same story repeated enough and people start to believe it. I’m thinking about the slogan “The Best or Nothing” at the moment.
Curious. Something wrong with your new Mercedes?
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Old Jan 25, 2021 | 10:03 AM
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Curious. Something wrong with your new Mercedes?
Yes....

One of the reasons I got rid of my 2020 GLE 450 a year or two early was that I didn’t trust it after numerous problems and the down time getting things fixed. The Lane Keep & Distronic issues could easily have caused a serious accident for a lot of people that might have panicked. A software update fixed Distronic for about a year but then it failed again.
My GLE 53 came with Multi Contour Orange seats not the Red advertised or pik’s in the Configurator. They also have numerous significant defects that bother me more than the color. (My 450 seats were perfect) The lower rocker panel (no running boards) are not flush like they were on my 450 and a wheel arch trim piece is not attached at the bottom.
On a recent trip I discovered that my Distronic is malfunctioning similar to my GLE 450. This time it’s Camera related but it will be a week or two before I can take it in for repair.
I expected better quality 2 years from the redesign and with the AMG model. The GLE 63 S that was delivered at the same time had some of the same cosmetic issues. I love the car, waited 6 months again...but the seats don’t make the cut for any Mercedes. I understand today’s environment but “The Best or Nothing” might be false advertising.
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Old Jan 25, 2021 | 10:14 AM
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Yes....

One of the reasons I got rid of my 2020 GLE 450 a year or two early was that I didn’t trust it after numerous problems and the down time getting things fixed. The Lane Keep & Distronic issues could easily have caused a serious accident for a lot of people that might have panicked. A software update fixed Distronic for about a year but then it failed again.
My GLE 53 came with Multi Contour Orange seats not the Red advertised or pik’s in the Configurator. They also have numerous significant defects that bother me more than the color. (My 450 seats were perfect) The lower rocker panel (no running boards) are not flush like they were on my 450 and a wheel arch trim piece is not attached at the bottom.
On a recent trip I discovered that my Distronic is malfunctioning similar to my GLE 450. This time it’s Camera related but it will be a week or two before I can take it in for repair.
I expected better quality 2 years from the redesign and with the AMG model. The GLE 63 S that was delivered at the same time had some of the same cosmetic issues. I love the car, waited 6 months again...but the seats don’t make the cut for any Mercedes. I understand today’s environment but “The Best or Nothing” might be false advertising.
Sorry to hear. Yeah those things are disturbing. That's not "The Best Or Nothing"!
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Old Jan 25, 2021 | 01:16 PM
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Can the 53 be ordered in macchiato beige MB Tex or regular beige leather instead of the exclusive Napa beige leather ?

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Old Jan 26, 2021 | 04:44 PM
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I understand today’s environment but “The Best or Nothing” might be false advertising.
Or some manufacturer's Ad Department may be trying to address a known shortcoming.
Remember Honda's "we make it simple" campaign to address their engine failures because of complex emissions systems (dozens of vacuum hoses and CVCC) in the 80's? Clearly false but it launched the brand.
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Old Mar 5, 2021 | 09:08 AM
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My GLE 53 is due to come in the next couple of days. So the car comes with "run flat" tires and no spare. I guess these tires are expensive to replace. The dealer offers a "road hazard tire and wheel" insurance protection option (replace tires and wheels damaged by road hazards such as potholes or debris) as an additional purchase. Do people ever get this insurance or make claims on it? Has anyone have any experience of getting a flat with a "run flat" tire? Any thoughts on this?
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Old Mar 5, 2021 | 09:31 AM
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Personally, we take the tire policy. One pothole on the Henry Hudson can do in a whole set of tires and wheels. And of course the only problem we had was on the second car where we had no policy. It was only a tire which was under $200 installed. So the sure-fire way of never having pothole damage is to take the policy. We had runflats, btw, on the GLC and hated them passionately. Terrible ride and always worried about whether they really did run flat. The GLE has real tires with a compact spare and it rides so much better.
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Old Mar 5, 2021 | 10:04 AM
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My GLE 53 is due to come in the next couple of days. So the car comes with "run flat" tires and no spare. I guess these tires are expensive to replace. The dealer offers a "road hazard tire and wheel" insurance protection option (replace tires and wheels damaged by road hazards such as potholes or debris) as an additional purchase. Do people ever get this insurance or make claims on it? Has anyone have any experience of getting a flat with a "run flat" tire? Any thoughts on this?
So you got the third row seats hence the "run flats"?
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Old Mar 5, 2021 | 10:09 AM
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I would replace them with non run flats if and when. Had I bought a BMW (that I considered once) I would have replaced the tires immediately and put the RF’s on eBay if I couldn’t get a decent trade deal. With Roadside Assistance you have options but that might depend upon your location. If you damage a wheel you are in the same “boat” run flats or not. The 53 ride is going to be firm without RF’s.
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Old Mar 5, 2021 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Brian Sperber
My GLE 53 is due to come in the next couple of days. So the car comes with "run flat" tires and no spare. I guess these tires are expensive to replace. The dealer offers a "road hazard tire and wheel" insurance protection option (replace tires and wheels damaged by road hazards such as potholes or debris) as an additional purchase. Do people ever get this insurance or make claims on it? Has anyone have any experience of getting a flat with a "run flat" tire? Any thoughts on this?
To your question about tire & wheel coverage, when I bought my 2015 S550 in a private transaction in 2019, at the recommendation of a couple of friends that have MB vehicles with run flats, I went to MB dealer and purchased the 60 month coverage for $1,200. I have 20" AMG wheels in staggerd sizes. I have had two tires replaced and one wheel repaired (wheels are replaced if they are so bent that tires won't hold air). One front tire replacement was a pothole blowout (which I did not notice for a couple of days since the tire pressure did not drop), and one rear tire caught a screw (I did notice this as tire pressure dropped). Only question re replacement is tread depth, which was not an issue in my case. Service advisor handled claim process, I did nothing.
This is my first experience with run flats, and since I bought the vehicle I have seen that many on the forums don't like them. I was strongly considering going non run flat at normal replacement (particularly since the tires were 6 yrs old) but with replacement coverage, when one was replaced I just bought another matching tire). I will say that the new run flat tires ride much better than the old run flat tires. There have been some comments on the W222 forum that there have been material/design upgrades on newer run flats resulting in better performance.

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Old Mar 5, 2021 | 11:01 AM
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So you got the third row seats hence the "run flats"?
Yes exactly, got the 3rd row. Will only use it half a dozen times a year when the Grandparents are in town, hence not getting the GLS.
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Old Mar 5, 2021 | 11:04 AM
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To your question about tire & wheel coverage, when I bought my 2015 S550 in a private transaction in 2019, at the recommendation of a couple of friends that have MB vehicles with run flats, I went to MB dealer and purchased the 60 month coverage for $1,200. I have 20" AMG wheels in staggerd sizes. I have had two tires replaced and one wheel repaired (wheels are replaced if they are so bent that tires won't hold air). One front tire replacement was a pothole blowout (which I did not notice for a couple of days since the tire pressure did not drop), and one rear tire caught a screw (I did notice this as tire pressure dropped). Only question re replacement is tread depth, which was not an issue in my case. Service advisor handled claim process, I did nothing.
This is my first experience with run flats, and since I bought the vehicle I have seen that many on the forums don't like them. I was strongly considering going non run flat at normal replacement (particularly since the tires were 6 yrs old) but with replacement coverage, when one was replaced I just bought another matching tire). I will say that the new run flat tires ride much better than the old run flat tires. There have been some comments on the W222 forum that there have been material/design upgrades on newer run flats resulting in better performance.
Wow, so you really used that warranty option. I was leaning against it but now....................hmm......... I'm not convinced about these run-flats, that's for sure. If I have to check the tires every week to see if I have any damage or not, don't need extra things to worry about.
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Old Mar 5, 2021 | 11:44 AM
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Wow, so you really used that warranty option. I was leaning against it but now....................hmm......... I'm not convinced about these run-flats, that's for sure. If I have to check the tires every week to see if I have any damage or not, don't need extra things to worry about.
I don't think you have to check your run-flats for damage, any more than go-flats. In either case, your TPMS will tell you of lost air pressure.
Other than loss of air, your inspections would be the same no matter which type you have.

When we special ordered our '19 GLC, we specified no run-flats and a spare, but the order was changed at the last minute to run-flats. I was surprised at how much better they were than a previous set - they actually rode well and stuck to the pavement.
Then the unthinkable happened - a bolt through the tread. Our tire store patched them just like a non-run-flat and we were on our way.
We have changed to winter non-run-flats with no spare - just a plug kit and compressor. Just like we did with our W164 Bluetec. a no-spare car. 90,000 miles and no flats.
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I’m right behind you Brian and Ferrariguy talked to my SA and production started for me on Mar 1st a whole ten days earlier than estimated. So we’ll see about delivery dates together.
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Old Mar 5, 2021 | 06:22 PM
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Wow, so you really used that warranty option. I was leaning against it but now....................hmm......... I'm not convinced about these run-flats, that's for sure. If I have to check the tires every week to see if I have any damage or not, don't need extra things to worry about.
I think you would only need to check if you hit something. Like I said, this is my first experience with run flats. I definitely knew I hit a significant pot hole but assumed it would impact the TPMS system if there was a problem, but it did not. It was the front passenger side tire, and I saw the bulge a couple of days later while on a ladder in the garage next to the car. I know now to check if I hit a pot hole! I was also lucky that with no spare or jack, both instances were local, and I live 5 miles from MB dealer.

Comments I have seen speak to the fact that run flats have stiffer side walls so less give. Size of tire is also a factor.
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Anybody know if we have to buy tires in pairs. My sister had a blow out in her Lexus they wouldn’t sell her one single tire. I thought that was crazy. She tried Costco and a discount tire joint.
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Anybody know if we have to buy tires in pairs. My sister had a blow out in her Lexus they wouldn’t sell her one single tire. I thought that was crazy. She tried Costco and a discount tire joint.
There is a wear limit tolerance on All Wheel Dive vehicles that she might be hitting. I have purchased just one tire from Discount a few months ago. Often you need to repace all 4 tires if they have exceeded the allowable tolerance. That number may vary by vehicle but is when they exceed 2/32nds as I recall. it's possible that she had 2 within limit so only needed to change 2.
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Thanks Ron, she was told this came from Lexus and no shop can sell you just one. I believe that her tires were good she just ran over something. I just hope that we only have to buy one if needed. I’ll bet that if your buy the wheel and tire warranty you only get one tire.
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Boom!!! Success!! Finally!!






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Boom!!! Success!! Finally!!
Great looking SUV, you're gonna love it, the 53 powertrain is a peach!
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My build is second decade March 2021 for the 53AMG SUV. I just emailed my salesman to see if I could still make a minor change and the response was that the build is frozen so no changes. I hope that means it is getting built in the second decade. Any thoughts?
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My build is second decade March 2021 for the 53AMG SUV. I just emailed my salesman to see if I could still make a minor change and the response was that the build is frozen so no changes. I hope that means it is getting built in the second decade. Any thoughts?
I would not assume it means much. Your build is typically frozen within a few weeks after ordering, but production can still slip. With the many supplier issues lately this, unfortunately, is very possible, but not certain.
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My build is second decade March 2021 for the 53AMG SUV. I just emailed my salesman to see if I could still make a minor change and the response was that the build is frozen so no changes. I hope that means it is getting built in the second decade. Any thoughts?
Yeah, If you can still make changes then your months away from getting car, be glad it's locked. If your build is 2nd decade March, then you should already have an exact build day by now. Have your SA go into your file and find out which day that is. On that build day, ( +/- 2 days ) you will also get a Vin# have him give that to you also. After you get build confirmation it will be 3-7 days before it's "Released to Carrier". Goodluck, b
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