MBUX Suggested Routes
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MBUX Suggested Routes
Not sure if this is the right place to post this, apologies if it isn't.
I have a 2020 GLE and the entire time I've owned it the suggested routes in the navigation have been nonsensical.
I drive my car the same route to and from work most week days. So what does the nav suggest, a route to work? No it gives me a route home. In fact the only suggestion it consistently gives me is to drive home, no matter where I am or what time of day it is. I've gotten in the car in the middle of the day to go grab lunch and it suggests I drive home.
I thought the system was supposed to learn my patterns and make suggestions based on that.
My question is how do others find this function? Does it make reasonable suggestions, or is my experience of random nonsense typical?
It's hardly a deal breaker, I'm just curious.
I have a 2020 GLE and the entire time I've owned it the suggested routes in the navigation have been nonsensical.
I drive my car the same route to and from work most week days. So what does the nav suggest, a route to work? No it gives me a route home. In fact the only suggestion it consistently gives me is to drive home, no matter where I am or what time of day it is. I've gotten in the car in the middle of the day to go grab lunch and it suggests I drive home.
I thought the system was supposed to learn my patterns and make suggestions based on that.
My question is how do others find this function? Does it make reasonable suggestions, or is my experience of random nonsense typical?
It's hardly a deal breaker, I'm just curious.
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Hi Kris079, I have a 2021 GLE and the nav system works fairly well. I do not have the same problem that you are experiencing with the drive home always coming up. Unfortunately I still have to double check the suggested route with Waze or Google maps to be sure. I’ve yet to find an in vehicle navigation system that is as accurate as my phone. Perhaps you are having a software issue with yours, I am not sure if your car gets to “learn “ your desired routes. No matter how unreliable my current navigation system is, it’s an improvement over my previous MB.
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I don't have experience with the MBUX suggested routes. My COMAND system has a pre-cursor to it. You have to tell it where home and work is and then it's supposed to recognize that the vehicle is located on the route between home and work and automatically starts a route guidance. I have this turned off, though, because I don't commute. However, my phone learns my routine or at least it seems to think it knows where I'm going, but I find these learning algorithms to be very flawed. They don't really work in my experience, unless you have a very consistent routine or maybe I'm just not predictable enough, but my phone regularly thinks I'm going somewhere specific because I've gone there in the past a few times on specific days and times, but I'm going somewhere completely different. The simple truth is they can't read your mind.
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Coming from a GM product using Navteq software, I initially found the MB system to be very odd about the routes it picked. I have learned that it takes live traffic in to account and this skews the routs considerably based on estimated travel time, not the best way to get from point A to point B. The accuracy of the traffic reports is questionable and I feel is the main reason for weird routing occurrences.
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Coming from a GM product using Navteq software, I initially found the MB system to be very odd about the routes it picked. I have learned that it takes live traffic in to account and this skews the routs considerably based on estimated travel time, not the best way to get from point A to point B. The accuracy of the traffic reports is questionable and I feel is the main reason for weird routing occurrences.
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I used to have the problem where the car would try to guide me home every time I got in (even if I was near home). It's been a couple of years now but I seem to recall a setting buried somewhere within the Nav options. Some settings aren't super easy to find if I remember well, when you go to the gear icon within the Nav screen you get a list of options, but there are more advanced options and even a few non-obvious horizontal tabs (not within the same popup menu, but next to it) that you can select to get additional options. Sorry I can't be more clear, not in front of the car now ![Smilie](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Regarding strange routes, also within the options make sure you don't have anything selected like "avoid tolls, avoid highways, avoid unpaved roads" etc.
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Regarding strange routes, also within the options make sure you don't have anything selected like "avoid tolls, avoid highways, avoid unpaved roads" etc.
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Funny thing is MB runs Navteq effectively. Navteq was bought by Nokia, renamed to HERE and then sold to a consortium made up of Daimler, BMW and Audi. It's much more than just map data now. Live traffic etc. is all powered by HERE. The accuracy of the traffic reports depends on where you live and the quality of the source where it comes from. The more Mercedes vehicles on the road, the more accurate it gets as well, because they send traffic information back to the mothership. Around here, the traffic data is pretty much spot on. I often compare the routes between the MB navigation and Google Maps and they largely come up with the same routes based on current traffic patterns.
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Sorry, I should have been a little clearer.
The function I’m referring to is probably more accurately called suggested destinations.
The routes the nav uses when you select a destination is fine.
The problem is every suggested destination is home no matter the time of day and or where I’m actually heading.
MBUX is supposed to learn your habits and suggest a route, say you go to training after work every Tuesday it’s supposed to recognise that and then suggest that destination on Tuesdays.
I have checked the settings and the function is enabled - can’t remember exactly what it’s called.
I’ve also tried resetting the entire system with a new user profile and it hasn’t made any difference.
The function I’m referring to is probably more accurately called suggested destinations.
The routes the nav uses when you select a destination is fine.
The problem is every suggested destination is home no matter the time of day and or where I’m actually heading.
MBUX is supposed to learn your habits and suggest a route, say you go to training after work every Tuesday it’s supposed to recognise that and then suggest that destination on Tuesdays.
I have checked the settings and the function is enabled - can’t remember exactly what it’s called.
I’ve also tried resetting the entire system with a new user profile and it hasn’t made any difference.
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Sorry, I should have been a little clearer.
The function I’m referring to is probably more accurately called suggested destinations.
The routes the nav uses when you select a destination is fine.
The problem is every suggested destination is home no matter the time of day and or where I’m actually heading.
MBUX is supposed to learn your habits and suggest a route, say you go to training after work every Tuesday it’s supposed to recognise that and then suggest that destination on Tuesdays.
I have checked the settings and the function is enabled - can’t remember exactly what it’s called.
I’ve also tried resetting the entire system with a new user profile and it hasn’t made any difference.
The function I’m referring to is probably more accurately called suggested destinations.
The routes the nav uses when you select a destination is fine.
The problem is every suggested destination is home no matter the time of day and or where I’m actually heading.
MBUX is supposed to learn your habits and suggest a route, say you go to training after work every Tuesday it’s supposed to recognise that and then suggest that destination on Tuesdays.
I have checked the settings and the function is enabled - can’t remember exactly what it’s called.
I’ve also tried resetting the entire system with a new user profile and it hasn’t made any difference.
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Thanks.
That makes sense - I’ll give that a try and see if the suggestions improve if I use navigation more consistently.
That makes sense - I’ll give that a try and see if the suggestions improve if I use navigation more consistently.
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It will never be anywhere near as good as Apple / Google Maps or Waze. I had posted about this in the past. The maps are out of date in major cities and they still haven't updated changes on major interstate highways that are now 4 years old.
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My 2020 GLE 450 had the “backtracking’ function that set a return course to home but it’s missing in my 2021 GLE 53. I never found it helpful because Live Traffic was routing me off of main roads to secondary ones that were lower speed limits and often poor traffic flow. Usefulness probably varies by area.
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Not sure if this is the right place to post this, apologies if it isn't.
I have a 2020 GLE and the entire time I've owned it the suggested routes in the navigation have been nonsensical.
I drive my car the same route to and from work most week days. So what does the nav suggest, a route to work? No it gives me a route home. In fact the only suggestion it consistently gives me is to drive home, no matter where I am or what time of day it is. I've gotten in the car in the middle of the day to go grab lunch and it suggests I drive home.
I thought the system was supposed to learn my patterns and make suggestions based on that.
My question is how do others find this function? Does it make reasonable suggestions, or is my experience of random nonsense typical?
It's hardly a deal breaker, I'm just curious.
I have a 2020 GLE and the entire time I've owned it the suggested routes in the navigation have been nonsensical.
I drive my car the same route to and from work most week days. So what does the nav suggest, a route to work? No it gives me a route home. In fact the only suggestion it consistently gives me is to drive home, no matter where I am or what time of day it is. I've gotten in the car in the middle of the day to go grab lunch and it suggests I drive home.
I thought the system was supposed to learn my patterns and make suggestions based on that.
My question is how do others find this function? Does it make reasonable suggestions, or is my experience of random nonsense typical?
It's hardly a deal breaker, I'm just curious.
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One of the benefits for me is also that the car navigation system is always there. I can have the map open on the center screen to see the traffic in my area at all times, so I can use my local knowledge to get around congestions when I see them. Along the same note, it also continuously keeps an eye on traffic and announces over the speakers if there's a traffic event, congestions or toll station coming up, even if I'm not actively navigating. Especially the traffic events and congestion warnings have alerted me a few times to take a different route when I wasn't looking at the map and not realizing that I was heading for an issue.
But just in general, I regularly compare routes between the MB system and Google Maps when I head out and they largely come up with the same routes. The MB system actually has re-routed me on some alternate routes that I wasn't even aware of, and Google Maps never considered for some reason. Just yesterday I was driving home and there was an accident on the Interstate closing two lanes. Google Maps said to stay on the highway, but the MB navigation re-routed me around it on local roads. Don't know if I really saved any time in the end, but it's probably not a good idea to keep going on the highway knowing that there are lane closures up ahead. It can likely get worse by the time you get there.
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Android Auto works in areas without Cell Service…my GMC truck, Audi & Mercedes all seem to get basic route guidance off of Satellite. Central Nevada has very little Cell signal. You lose POI & search but there’s nothing much there anyway except for gas stops. You can also download a map of your route but I haven’t ever felt the need. In the last 2 years I’ve been in 9 Western States and can’t find a hiccup with AA but lots of them with M maps. For the most part it’s rural areas but even in large cities AA works better for me. A lot of times it’s not point to point Nav that I need but maybe finding an off route destination in a strange city. Seattle, Portland, Salt Lake, Las Vegas & Denver no problems with AA. It also works the same way no matter what car I’m driving. To each his own!
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Android Auto works in areas without Cell Service…my GMC truck, Audi & Mercedes all seem to get basic route guidance off of Satellite. Central Nevada has very little Cell signal. You lose POI & search but there’s nothing much there anyway except for gas stops. You can also download a map of your route but I haven’t ever felt the need. In the last 2 years I’ve been in 9 Western States and can’t find a hiccup with AA but lots of them with M maps. For the most part it’s rural areas but even in large cities AA works better for me. A lot of times it’s not point to point Nav that I need but maybe finding an off route destination in a strange city. Seattle, Portland, Salt Lake, Las Vegas & Denver no problems with AA. It also works the same way no matter what car I’m driving. To each his own!
As far as finding places goes, do you know that you can send destinations to the car directly from the phone? For example on iOS I can send a destination to the car directly from Google Maps or any other app. Just need to tap Share, then tap the Mercedes Me app and it sends it to the car either via Bluetooth if I'm already in the car or over the Internet and then it pops up on the screen from where the route guidance can be started. That's actually what I do most of the time. I rarely look up destinations directly in the car, although if I do I can usually find them, too, as it does an online search if there's a connection. But sending the destinations to the car ahead of time before I even get in is super convenient. Once in the car it takes one click to start the route guidance. I even created a shortcut routine on my phone that let's me pick an upcoming calendar event and send the location to the car. Two taps on the phone, a click in the car and I'm on my way to my next appointment.
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Just to clarify. If you have an active route, then Google Maps will continue to route you on the original route, even without a cell signal, but miss a turn and it won't be able to re-route you. You'll have to find your own way back to the original route. You can also not start an entirely new route w/o a cell signal unless you previously stitched together enough overlapping offline areas between your current location and the destination. If there's a gap anywhere it can't calculate a route. I've been there numerous times when we take my wife's car on a road trip into remote areas. Usually I can't route my way back until I'm back in an area with cell reception, but for those cases I have HERE Maps on my phone as well.
As far as finding places goes, do you know that you can send destinations to the car directly from the phone? For example on iOS I can send a destination to the car directly from Google Maps or any other app. Just need to tap Share, then tap the Mercedes Me app and it sends it to the car either via Bluetooth if I'm already in the car or over the Internet and then it pops up on the screen from where the route guidance can be started. That's actually what I do most of the time. I rarely look up destinations directly in the car, although if I do I can usually find them, too, as it does an online search if there's a connection. But sending the destinations to the car ahead of time before I even get in is super convenient. Once in the car it takes one click to start the route guidance. I even created a shortcut routine on my phone that let's me pick an upcoming calendar event and send the location to the car. Two taps on the phone, a click in the car and I'm on my way to my next appointment.
As far as finding places goes, do you know that you can send destinations to the car directly from the phone? For example on iOS I can send a destination to the car directly from Google Maps or any other app. Just need to tap Share, then tap the Mercedes Me app and it sends it to the car either via Bluetooth if I'm already in the car or over the Internet and then it pops up on the screen from where the route guidance can be started. That's actually what I do most of the time. I rarely look up destinations directly in the car, although if I do I can usually find them, too, as it does an online search if there's a connection. But sending the destinations to the car ahead of time before I even get in is super convenient. Once in the car it takes one click to start the route guidance. I even created a shortcut routine on my phone that let's me pick an upcoming calendar event and send the location to the car. Two taps on the phone, a click in the car and I'm on my way to my next appointment.
With Android any reservations for Plane, Hotel or even AB&B are entered in my Calendar and pop up as destination selections. On a trip to Tahoe last summer it gave me my Reno Hotel as a choice as AA booted leaving town. When I left Reno it popped up my AB&B destination in Tahoe on screen. One tap and Nav starts. I could go on all day but for my needs there is no comparison. After my last Mercedes firmware update I can now toggle back and forth between AA and Mercedes Nav but it doesn’t always work all day for some reason.
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I can’t image ever needing to change Nav in an area without cell service but I suppose it happens. With AA I can fire pff a request using Google Assistant for just about anything I want and there is always Cell in 95% of the West. For example-in Vegas my wife wants to go to Total Wine returning from the car wash. Or we decide to stop at a Loves, Chevron, etc. quick Nav request and it’s done. If there are multiple locations I get a list and the distance to each. Mercedes is slow and more often than not makes me repeat the request or can’t help at all.
With Android any reservations for Plane, Hotel or even AB&B are entered in my Calendar and pop up as destination selections. On a trip to Tahoe last summer it gave me my Reno Hotel as a choice as AA booted leaving town. When I left Reno it popped up my AB&B destination in Tahoe on screen. One tap and Nav starts. I could go on all day but for my needs there is no comparison. After my last Mercedes firmware update I can now toggle back and forth between AA and Mercedes Nav but it doesn’t always work all day for some reason.
With Android any reservations for Plane, Hotel or even AB&B are entered in my Calendar and pop up as destination selections. On a trip to Tahoe last summer it gave me my Reno Hotel as a choice as AA booted leaving town. When I left Reno it popped up my AB&B destination in Tahoe on screen. One tap and Nav starts. I could go on all day but for my needs there is no comparison. After my last Mercedes firmware update I can now toggle back and forth between AA and Mercedes Nav but it doesn’t always work all day for some reason.