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I just ran across these. Talk about cheap lol. Actually, these were one of the very few all-season tires available for BMW's X5 22" OEM size. There were a few people that tried these and they didn't seem too disappointed, but take that with a grain of salt. The only thing that concerns me with these is road noise.
Last edited by Frenetic; Jul 18, 2022 at 07:53 PM.
This is an old article but might explain why so many people are waiting weeks for 22” tire replacements right now coupled with tire prices that are over $600 a piece for 22” Michelins. It’s not a good time for us with 21 and 22” tires to get a flat.
I just ran across these. Talk about cheap lol. Actually, these were one of the very few all-season tires available for BMW's X5 22" OEM size. There were a few people that tried these and they didn't seem too disappointed, but take that with a grain of salt. The only thing that concerns me with these is road noise.
These seem like decent tires and worth giving a shot. My Yokohamas have 13.9 k on them and were severely hydroplaning on a recent 2,050 mile trip a couple of days ago. Rears specially, have about 4mm thread on the driver side, and about 1.5mm on the passenger. Fronts don't look that bad. They still have ~5mm thread, but even then, the look like they need to be replaced as well.
Scary to say the least. Fortunately, I experienced this on the return trip close to home. Needless to say, I don't want to drive on highways/freeways in the rain in this condition again, so on the lookout for new tires.
Got the Nittos ordered and they were installed by Discount Tire on Friday.
They are horrendous. Not sure if the compound is too hard, but these feel like you're driving on wet cobblestones (not sure what to call it, that's how I'd describe it, almost like driving with very low pressure on, and moving the steering wheel makes the car shimmy from side to side). That's how bad they handle.
Went back to DT and the only other tires that they carry for my GLE53 are the Pirelli Scorpion Winter, which they will order for me and swap for a ~$700 difference.
I'm just not sure how that would work driving in Houston where our winters are very mild. Is there a downside? Feedback is appreciated.
I got a set of Pirelli winter MO-1 (AMG spec) from the dealer last fall. BTW I saved about $150 from the Dealer compared to Tire Rack.
I never really got to test their winter capabilities,since we received so little snow in Colorado last year.
But I couldn't wait to get them off last Spring. They just don't have enough traction for the AMG 53's power.
A frustrating example is waiting at a side street, trying to pull into a reasonable gap in traffic. If I give it power to pull in (not full throttle), it breaks traction on all four wheels, it doesn't make the turn and I go wide.
I certainly don't have fun on twisty roads, and instead of going 20 to 30 mph over the yellow caution curve signs, it's 10 to 15 over, if that.
I wish I had more input about snow and ice performance.
I wish some of my favorite Winters came in AMG sizes but they don't.
@Neurobit did you put three or 400 miles on the Nittos? It can take that long for the mold release agent to dissipate and the tires to scrub in, before you have full traction.
I got a set of Pirelli winter MO-1 (AMG spec) from the dealer last fall. BTW I saved about $150 from the Dealer compared to Tire Rack.
I never really got to test their winter capabilities,since we received so little snow in Colorado last year.
But I couldn't wait to get them off last Spring. They just don't have enough traction for the AMG 53's power.
A frustrating example is waiting at a side street, trying to pull into a reasonable gap in traffic. If I give it power to pull in (not full throttle), it breaks traction on all four wheels, it doesn't make the turn and I go wide.
I certainly don't have fun on twisty roads, and instead of going 20 to 30 mph over the yellow caution curve signs, it's 10 to 15 over, if that.
I wish I had more input about snow and ice performance.
I wish some of my favorite Winters came in AMG sizes but they don't.
@Neurobit did you put three or 400 miles on the Nittos? It can take that long for the mold release agent to dissipate and the tires to scrub in, before you have full traction.
Thanks for the reply @mikapen I have put in about 80-90 miles on these. Do you think the release agent might be the issue?
Called the store and they told me the ones they are putting in are the Scorpion AS, not winters.
Hopefully that is the case. I will confirm when they come in.
Called the store and they told me the ones they are putting in are the Scorpion AS, not winters.
Hopefully that is the case. I will confirm when they come in.
Perfect…you don’t want to run winter tires in Houston for very long. Is there a tire shortage now like everything else?
Perfect…you don’t want to run winter tires in Houston for very long. Is there a tire shortage now like everything else?
There must be some sort of shortage just like everything else nowadays. All the usual places show most 22" tires out of stock or on backorder.
From what I've read today to educate myself, using a winter tire in hot summer roads could reduce thread life by up to 60%. That would be an expensive proposition.
Well that's too bad. Thanks for reporting on your experience, though, as reviews for these tires are few and far between. I just ordered one new rear tire as I pinched the sidewall. There's a small flap hanging out and it's cosmetic only, but I still ordered one and it's going to cost me $645 installed for one dang tire. I'm going to keep the old one as an emergency spare. Ridiculous prices and costs more than 22" Vossen flow form wheels for my car. I read there's a rubber shortage that is causing these stupid prices.
Originally Posted by Neurobit
Got the Nittos ordered and they were installed by Discount Tire on Friday.
They are horrendous. Not sure if the compound is too hard, but these feel like you're driving on wet cobblestones (not sure what to call it, that's how I'd describe it, almost like driving with very low pressure on, and moving the steering wheel makes the car shimmy from side to side). That's how bad they handle.
Went back to DT and the only other tires that they carry for my GLE53 are the Pirelli Scorpion Winter, which they will order for me and swap for a ~$700 difference.
I'm just not sure how that would work driving in Houston where our winters are very mild. Is there a downside? Feedback is appreciated.
Well the Nittos still stink. Glad DT is taking them back and replacing them.
These are the tires they've ordered for me. Anything will be an upgrade at this point...
Well the Nittos still stink. Glad DT is taking them back and replacing them.
These are the tires they've ordered for me. Anything will be an upgrade at this point...
Well at least you gave the Nittos a fair shot.
From comparing tires and prices, it looks like they have found the Aston Martin Tire, ABA spec.
It would be best if you found an MO-1 AMG spec, or at least an MO spec for Mercedes. Couple hundred dollars less, too.
From comparing tires and prices, it looks like they have found the Aston Martin Tire, ABA spec.
It would be best if you found an MO-1 AMG spec, or at least an MO spec for Mercedes. Couple hundred dollars less, too.
Yes there's a tire shortage now. Good luck.
Thanks. Yeah, saw that, but since that's all they could find, I'm ok with it.
Plus they are swapping them for an additional $730, so looks like they are heavily discounting them from their retail price, so I am actually paying less than I would have if I had chosen these in the first place, so it looks like it will all work out fine.
Thanks. Yeah, saw that, but since that's all they could find, I'm ok with it.
Plus they are swapping them for an additional $730, so looks like they are heavily discounting them from their retail price, so I am actually paying less than I would have if I had chosen these in the first place, so it looks like it will all work out fine.
I was just browsing Tire Rack to see if all-seasons were available in the 22” OEM tire sizes and was shocked at how expensive tires are in the 22” OEM tire size.
The only all-seasons available costs $900 a tire lol. The “normal’ summer tires costs $600 to $900 per tire.
That’s just crazy…. Not sure what’s going on with this size. I assume—based on the fact that they’re so expensive with most of them on back order—that this size is not used much.
I vehemently agree with you. As, I too dread replacing my 21” tires on my GLE 350. Considering that I just got a quote from Costco for four Michelin tires on sale for my Subaru. Which includes, nitrogen inflation; valve stems; disposal of old tires; inflation check for life; flat repair for life; Ohio tire fee; and, Costco road hazard and mileage warranty - All for $762 plus tax. Though some will say “but it’s like comparing apples to oranges.” I say why in Jack Daniels name should a tire cost that much?
I was just browsing Tire Rack to see if all-seasons were available in the 22” OEM tire sizes and was shocked at how expensive tires are in the 22” OEM tire size.
The only all-seasons available costs $900 a tire lol. The “normal’ summer tires costs $600 to $900 per tire.
That’s just crazy…. Not sure what’s going on with this size. I assume—based on the fact that they’re so expensive with most of them on back order—that this size is not used much.
If you're going to run dubs you gotta' pay to play!
Loving the Scorpion Zeros so far.
Haven’t had a chance to drive on the highway yet since I’ve just put them in on Friday and it sat in the garage all weekend, but they’re rock solid around city streets where the Nittos felt like driving on wet cobblestones.
Also, nice fat raised "lip" that will protect the edge of the outer rim. The OE Yokohamas had this, and it did offer protection against small curb rubs a few times. Nice to see this. (Nittos did not have it).
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