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Old Sep 14, 2022 | 05:55 AM
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Question Upgrade the basic sound system

Hi all,

I opted for a stock car which is equipped with the standard sound system.
It sounds ok but the DSP removes the bas when I increase the volume above 55%.

I read that the Burmester standard system is pretty OK but my dealer says it is impossible to retrofit the standard Burmester system in the car.

Anyone has experiences with aftermarket options? Remark: I have no place in the trunk as I have the 350de model.

Thanks!
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Old Sep 14, 2022 | 06:00 AM
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I don't think it's worth changing.
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Old Sep 14, 2022 | 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Constant.12
I don't think it's worth changing.
I agree, I did a side-by-side test with Burmester and standard system in the showroom at 30-40% (not wanting to start a party in the showroom ;-) ) and I concluded the standard system will be ok.
But once you increase up to 60%, you can clearly hear that Mercedes removes the bass to save the woofer. Unfortunately did not test that.
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Old Sep 14, 2022 | 07:36 AM
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Probably the easiest thing to do is find “plug-and-play” speaker upgrades. I tried searching myself and I couldn’t really find too much, maybe others might know. I did find this: https://www.emphaser.com/products/up...-benz/?lang=en

Other manufacturers, like BMW for example, has strong aftermarket support for “plug-and-play” type upgrades that were astoundingly good. https://www.bavsound.com

I don’t know if Mercedes has the same support when it comes to such upgrades. It might require something more custom/aftermarket.
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Old Sep 14, 2022 | 12:26 PM
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Probably the easiest thing to do is find “plug-and-play” speaker upgrades. I tried searching myself and I couldn’t really find too much, maybe others might know. I did find this: https://www.emphaser.com/products/up...-benz/?lang=en

Other manufacturers, like BMW for example, has strong aftermarket support for “plug-and-play” type upgrades that were astoundingly good. https://www.bavsound.com

I don’t know if Mercedes has the same support when it comes to such upgrades. It might require something more custom/aftermarket.
Lots of aftermarket suppliers from Crutchfield and up.
Here's one that shows compatibility by brand, model and installed audio system. Yes, BMW is there, too.
https://www.audiotec-fischer.de/en/m...e/adapterIndex
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Old Sep 25, 2022 | 12:15 PM
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Have not seen any plug and play speaker offerings after searching the web for the GLE
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Old Sep 25, 2022 | 12:36 PM
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Have not seen any plug and play speaker offerings after searching the web for the GLE
See Post number 5. Several plug and Play options there. Importantly, the wiring harnesses that allow you to add amplifiers, other controls and speakers.

Google "Match," which is a high-end speaker company that also provides sophisticated control units.

https://www.audiotec-fischer.de/en/match/

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Old Sep 25, 2022 | 01:32 PM
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I reviewed those links and did not find a compatibility listed for the GLE
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I reviewed those links and did not find a compatibility listed for the GLE
It's a link on the website. Here:
https://www.audiotec-fischer.de/en/m...e/adapterIndex
Several manufacturers, amplifiers, speakers, subwoofers, wiring harnesses, tools. Several manufacturers. Hope this link works.

Edit: that's not a direct link either. I'll scout the site for a better link. Its there.

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Originally Posted by mikapen
It's a link on the website. Here:
https://www.audiotec-fischer.de/en/m...e/adapterIndex
Several manufacturers, amplifiers, speakers, subwoofers, wiring harnesses, tools. Several manufacturers. Hope this link works.

Edit: that's not a direct link either. I'll scout the site for a better link. Its there.
Try this:

https://www.audiotec-fischer.de/en/c...epts/mercedes/

You can also use that link to go to their main site, at the top of the page, and see all the brands that can also be adapted but not all are Plug and Play.

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Old Sep 25, 2022 | 11:16 PM
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Focal also makes plug and play speakers for the GLE. just go to their website and search for Mercedes Inside.
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Old Sep 27, 2022 | 07:54 AM
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I added a small amp and a sub and it sounds much better. I now have solid bass at higher volume levels.
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Originally Posted by GeezerToo
Focal also makes plug and play speakers for the GLE. just go to their website and search for Mercedes Inside.
Checked their site and assume some do fit the GLE but they do not specifically list the GLE as a model for compatibility based on what I have seen so far.
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Old Sep 27, 2022 | 02:49 PM
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Audiotec Fischer Match seems like a professional alternative but indeed, I did not find a plug 'n play replacement specific for the GLE.
I have e-mailed a dealer of Audiotec Fischer but no response so far.
I'll update if I have news.
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Originally Posted by walle
Audiotec Fischer Match seems like a professional alternative but indeed, I did not find a plug 'n play replacement specific for the GLE.
I have e-mailed a dealer of Audiotec Fischer but no response so far.
I'll update if I have news.
It's in there. A really long list of Plug n Play, plus many more that require additional installation.
Make sure you choose English as your language.
Let us know.

Edit: Well, I've revisited the link I posted and now I can't find the plug and Play list. I'll keep trying.

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Originally Posted by mikapen
It's in there. A really long list of Plug n Play, plus many more that require additional installation.
Make sure you choose English as your language.
Let us know.

Edit: Well, I've revisited the link I posted and now I can't find the plug and Play list. I'll keep trying.
Its under Tools, then Upgrade Finder....

https://www.audiotec-fischer.de/en/m...e/adapterIndex

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Saw that but it only lists the center channel and harnesses for AMP changes. Wish they had one to show door and ceiling speakers...
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Originally Posted by walle
Hi all,

I opted for a stock car which is equipped with the standard sound system.
It sounds ok but the DSP removes the bas when I increase the volume above 55%.

I read that the Burmester standard system is pretty OK but my dealer says it is impossible to retrofit the standard Burmester system in the car.

Anyone has experiences with aftermarket options? Remark: I have no place in the trunk as I have the 350de model.

Thanks!
The only fully plug and play aftermarket option for GLE (V167) or GLS (C167) that I've found is from Gladen with Mosconi amplifier.

My installer already did a GLS that had the Burmester system and he replaced everything with Gladen-Mosconi.

I ordered a kit for my GLE, I'll take the car for installation next week.

This is the kit for the Subwoofers, Front Doors and 6 channel amplifier with harness.

SOUNDUP GA-SU-MB-167-BASIC
https://www.gladen.com/en-us/soundup/soundup-mercedes

For the rear doors, you can use these component speakers.
(it's the same as the front door components of the kit above)
GLADEN 100.2 MBM
https://www.gladen.com/en-us/gladen/...-one-100-2-mbm

If you like to add the surround speakers you may need an additional amplifier. I have no idea about the speaker model for the surround location.

I hope it helps. My installer said that the GLS Burmester system was awful and the owner was super satisfied with the Gladen (and frustrated with the Mercedes salesman that offered him the option for 4K$).
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Originally Posted by krzyoldgy
The only fully plug and play aftermarket option for GLE (V167) or GLS (C167) that I've found is from Gladen with Mosconi amplifier.

My installer already did a GLS that had the Burmester system and he replaced everything with Gladen-Mosconi.

I ordered a kit for my GLE, I'll take the car for installation next week.

This is the kit for the Subwoofers, Front Doors and 6 channel amplifier with harness.

SOUNDUP GA-SU-MB-167-BASIC
https://www.gladen.com/en-us/soundup/soundup-mercedes

For the rear doors, you can use these component speakers.
(it's the same as the front door components of the kit above)
GLADEN 100.2 MBM
https://www.gladen.com/en-us/gladen/...-one-100-2-mbm

If you like to add the surround speakers you may need an additional amplifier. I have no idea about the speaker model for the surround location.

I hope it helps. My installer said that the GLS Burmester system was awful and the owner was super satisfied with the Gladen (and frustrated with the Mercedes salesman that offered him the option for 4K$).
Does Gladen have the ability to fine tune the DSP via computer software? This video makes me think it might be possible:

Separately, here's a full install of the Gladen speakers:
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The Mosconi amplifiers include DSP and are adjustable using computer software. The installer showed me a head-like microphone that goes in the driver seat and connects to the computer for tuning.

We are going to use the 8 channel amplifier instead of the 6 channel model that comes with the kit (I think he ordered it as special kit) to include power for the rear door speakers.

https://www.gladen.com/en-us/mosconi...-pico-8-10-dsp

The 6 channel version is this one.

https://www.gladen.com/en-us/mosconi...i-pico-6-8-dsp


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Unfortunately the UP W8MB-S4 that I got from Crutchfield does NOT fit a 2024 GLE 450 with the 13 speaker system. No matter how I tried to line up the three mounting holes on BOTH speakers they just would not fit. One was was closer than the other 2 ways but even if I modified the bracket, I wasn't sure it would sit flush.

The only option I can think of right now was to physically try and swap the speakers into the old brackets. But I don't want to do that, have it not work, then not be able to return them. It's a $800 gamble.

Even looking at the YouTube video above they used a different sub than what the fisher up speaker is.

Going to try and find that speaker now.

Totally different speaker and bracket on the install on the youtube clip.

Closest i could get it to match but tight side hole is off.

Silver speaker is factory.

Silver speaker is factory.
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Old Sep 3, 2024 | 11:11 PM
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You need a different model of the Match UP W8 subwoofer for the GLE V167.

UP W8MB-S4.2


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Old Sep 4, 2024 | 10:34 AM
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Ah, I missed the ".2" guess it is time to go shopping again. 💰

Thank you for pointing that out.
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Originally Posted by Mike_D_GLE450
Ah, I missed the ".2" guess it is time to go shopping again. 💰

Thank you for pointing that out.
You can also try with the Gladen subwoofers.

https://www.gladen.com/en-us/gladen/...-200-mb-gle-ld

Or their kit with the Amplifier-DSP.

https://www.gladen.com/en-us/soundup/soundup-mercedes
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