2024 GLE Reveal Announced
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Dealer gibberish designed to trigger a fear-based sale.
I am presently sitting in one of “those markets” which will not have EV infrastructure for decades to come. And there are more MBs here than you could imagine. In addition to innumerable MBs, I saw two Maybachs here in a twenty four hour period, which is two more than I see in a typical month.
I am presently sitting in one of “those markets” which will not have EV infrastructure for decades to come. And there are more MBs here than you could imagine. In addition to innumerable MBs, I saw two Maybachs here in a twenty four hour period, which is two more than I see in a typical month.
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Even if your house has a 200-amp main panel you probably don't have a 50-amp (or higher) 240v circuit easily accessible in the garage or near the front of the house unless you're a hobby welder. More common are 30-amp circuits for dryers and that would be about four times better than a 120v household but would still take ages to fully charge a big EV battery. It cost me about $3000 to put in a 60-amp sub-panel in my garage for my woodworking equipment.
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I thought he was talking about poor-er countries that literally do not have the power infrastructure to support EVs.
If you're out in the midwest, isnt it likely that you live in a house that you can just add a charger to?
I'm in NYC and if I want an EV I have to pay my garage $150/mo for charging -_-
If you're out in the midwest, isnt it likely that you live in a house that you can just add a charger to?
I'm in NYC and if I want an EV I have to pay my garage $150/mo for charging -_-
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No, Mercedes isn't planning on developing another generation of ICE cars. European Union has a hard end date for ICE car production. 2035. Given the regulatory environment, it would be foolish to allocate billions to develop a new ICE platform when the current one is more than sufficient. I think you will see upgrades to the current 167 chassis, but I don't see a 168 chassis. Not saying gas cars will disappear, but there will be fewer built going forward as EV mandates take over.
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And now consider PandSPUR's thought about NYC. What if there are 50 EV's in his garage? 100? Can the infrastructure handle it? And given that the average EV is as heavy as a full size pickup (plus or minus), can the garage handle the extra weight? And what if one of those EV's in the garage catches fire, which cannot be put out, and generates huge amounts of toxic fumes? Consider the EU, where the vast majority of car owners do not have garages, like many of our neighborhoods in the US. Where do those people 'plug in'? Lots of things that still have to be fixed before this is more than unicorn level.
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No, Mercedes isn't planning on developing another generation of ICE cars. European Union has a hard end date for ICE car production. 2035. Given the regulatory environment, it would be foolish to allocate billions to develop a new ICE platform when the current one is more than sufficient. I think you will see upgrades to the current 167 chassis, but I don't see a 168 chassis. Not saying gas cars will disappear, but there will be fewer built going forward as EV mandates take over.
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And now consider PandSPUR's thought about NYC. What if there are 50 EV's in his garage? 100? Can the infrastructure handle it? And given that the average EV is as heavy as a full size pickup (plus or minus), can the garage handle the extra weight? And what if one of those EV's in the garage catches fire, which cannot be put out, and generates huge amounts of toxic fumes? Consider the EU, where the vast majority of car owners do not have garages, like many of our neighborhoods in the US. Where do those people 'plug in'? Lots of things that still have to be fixed before this is more than unicorn level.
There might be more on the lower levels (its a valet garage, so I'm not supposed to be in the bottom levels my self), but no way they have enough to charge every car parked in there at once.
They would definitely need some renovations.. and yep the customers will pay for that of course.
Fire is another interesting problem. We'll probably have at least one major lithium fire in a NYC garage before the local gov't legislates the hell out of the problem and require all garages to have fire suppression systems.
NY state has its own ban on new ICE vehicles coming up in the future. It'll probably just send prices in the used car market flying again.
But ANYWAY, getting close to the announcement..
I was digging around and noticed that there was a post on the AMG private lounge site a on the 24th: https://www.mercedes-amg.com/en/priv...e-amg-gle.html
Slightly clearer pictures with less camo, of the GLE 63:
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Based on dealer friends of ours, the issue is that EQ inventory is growing but customer traffic isn't. They fear the day having 200 EV's standing on the lot. Adoption will take time and I for one have trouble getting excited about any of these models. Given that Lucid isn't local and the Plaid took a $20k haircut, the Tesla looks more interesting than it did few months ago... Having a normal steering wheel back definitely helps as well
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What's new:
New wheel choices and colors (Alpine Gary flat, Twilight blue)
GLE400e with 2.0 inline four and 23.3 kwh battery (so excited about this)
GLE350 gets 2.0 mild hybrid from C300 with 295 lb ft torque
GLE450 gets 13 hp boost to 375, GLE580 now makes 510hp and 538 lb ft of torque, 0-60 should be 4 seconds
GLE580 gets off road package in US
New interior choices, hopefully nappa leather offered in more then just black
MBUX 2 (ntg 7) with wireless carplay and android auto, appears to still have touchpad though!!
New wheel choices and colors (Alpine Gary flat, Twilight blue)
GLE400e with 2.0 inline four and 23.3 kwh battery (so excited about this)
GLE350 gets 2.0 mild hybrid from C300 with 295 lb ft torque
GLE450 gets 13 hp boost to 375, GLE580 now makes 510hp and 538 lb ft of torque, 0-60 should be 4 seconds
GLE580 gets off road package in US
New interior choices, hopefully nappa leather offered in more then just black
MBUX 2 (ntg 7) with wireless carplay and android auto, appears to still have touchpad though!!
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Nicee. that solves one major gripe I had about the GLE, the crappy android auto support.
I assume MBUX 2 means full screen AA even without the big center tablet?
Looks like the V8 GLE 63S is going to be available too. I wonder if the upgraded burmester option will be back.
The new Alpine Grey is interesting. Not sure if I'd pick it over the selenite metallic grey I originally wanted.
I assume MBUX 2 means full screen AA even without the big center tablet?
Looks like the V8 GLE 63S is going to be available too. I wonder if the upgraded burmester option will be back.
The new Alpine Grey is interesting. Not sure if I'd pick it over the selenite metallic grey I originally wanted.
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Nicee. that solves one major gripe I had about the GLE, the crappy android auto support.
I assume MBUX 2 means full screen AA even without the big center tablet?
Looks like the V8 GLE 63S is going to be available too. I wonder if the upgraded burmester option will be back.
The new Alpine Grey is interesting. Not sure if I'd pick it over the selenite metallic grey I originally wanted.
I assume MBUX 2 means full screen AA even without the big center tablet?
Looks like the V8 GLE 63S is going to be available too. I wonder if the upgraded burmester option will be back.
The new Alpine Grey is interesting. Not sure if I'd pick it over the selenite metallic grey I originally wanted.
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Seriously? Comee onn... I never knew those were mutually exclusive options. I thought you just lose one speaker and still get all the others for high end audio.
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