Just got my 450e
10-01-2023, 11:22 AM
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The tax credit requirements for a leased vehicle are much more lenient. The tax credit belongs to the dealer not the person leasing the vehicle. It appears that BMW has chosen to pass the credit on to the customer.
10-01-2023, 06:48 PM
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'21 AMG53 wDPP & ARC, 19 GLC300 - Former- 10&14 ML BlueTecs, 20 GLE450 E-ABC, 15 Cayenne D, 17 Macan
It either qualifies or not.
I can see the administration favoring &nion shops, but BMW isn't that either.
10-01-2023, 06:50 PM
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'21 AMG53 wDPP & ARC, 19 GLC300 - Former- 10&14 ML BlueTecs, 20 GLE450 E-ABC, 15 Cayenne D, 17 Macan
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I understand the reason is the battery in the 450e doesn't meet the "critical mineral and battery component requirements." Specifically, to be eligible for the credit in 2023, at least 40% of the critical minerals by value – includinglithium, nickel, manganese, graphite and cobalt-- in the vehicle's batteries must have been extracted, processed or recycled in the U.S. or in a country with which the U.S. has a free trade agreement.
To qualify for the tax rebate, a vehicle must:
I understand the reason is the battery in the 450e doesn't meet the "critical mineral and battery component requirements." Specifically, to be eligible for the credit in 2023, at least 40% of the critical minerals by value – includinglithium, nickel, manganese, graphite and cobalt-- in the vehicle's batteries must have been extracted, processed or recycled in the U.S. or in a country with which the U.S. has a free trade agreement.
To qualify for the tax rebate, a vehicle must:
- Have a battery capacity of at least 7 kilowatt hours - Check
- Have a gross vehicle weight rating of less than 14,000 pounds -- Check
- Be made by a qualified manufacturer. - Check
- FCVs do not need to be made by a qualified manufacturer to be eligible. See Rev. Proc. 2022-42 for more detailed guidance.
- Undergo final assembly in North America - Check
- Meet critical mineral and battery component requirements (as of April 18, 2023). -- ?
Makes no sense either. All of the above uses child labor and destroys the environment.
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10-01-2023, 08:05 PM
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https://www.forbes.com/wheels/advice...-credit-lease/
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10-01-2023, 10:34 PM
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'21 AMG53 wDPP & ARC, 19 GLC300 - Former- 10&14 ML BlueTecs, 20 GLE450 E-ABC, 15 Cayenne D, 17 Macan
It may not make sense, but that was one of the things in the so-called “Inflation Reduction Act”
https://www.forbes.com/wheels/advice...-credit-lease/
https://www.forbes.com/wheels/advice...-credit-lease/
Different pockets to feed next election, I suppose.
Good thing we have two years of politicking left, to see who the big donors will be. It's always fun.
Thanks for the link.
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10-01-2023, 10:48 PM
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11-06-2023, 02:54 PM
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Mine charges at 9.6 kw rate which is the official published rate. Charging initially starts at a lower rate but quickly adjusts to the 9.6 rate. My level 2 charger provides 40 amps continuous output, but the charging rate itself is determined by the 450e onboard electronics.
11-06-2023, 03:01 PM
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Mine charges at 9.6 kw rate which is the official published rate. Charging initially starts at a lower rate but quickly adjusts to the 9.6 rate. My level 2 charger provides 40 amps continuous output, but the charging rate itself is determined by the 450e onboard electronics.
11-06-2023, 03:46 PM
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Mine has always charged at that rate. Each charge session begins at a lower rate but the increases to the 9.6 kw rate. I usually keep my battery level between the 80% and 20% range but on occasion exceed that depending on what I happen to be doing.
11-08-2023, 09:45 AM
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re: charging rate.
I heard that EVs will automatically reduce charging rates if they sense a voltage drop above certain threshold. I.e., it may be worth plugging it into some other circuit and/or have your electrician they the existing one.
I heard that EVs will automatically reduce charging rates if they sense a voltage drop above certain threshold. I.e., it may be worth plugging it into some other circuit and/or have your electrician they the existing one.
11-08-2023, 04:31 PM
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Are you based in USA? Any chance you can share a picture with charging speed? I spend days on this issue, and dealer now tells me that 9.6kw is not possible to achieve in North America, only in Europe.
11-12-2023, 01:20 PM
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11-12-2023, 01:28 PM
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To answer an earlier question you asked, yes I'm in the USA. Same charging data should show on your dashboard. On my vehicle this screen with essentially the same information as the app automatically activates when charging is initiated. The mobile app on my iPhone is much easier to use plus the data can be viewed remotely as well as modifications made to the settings.
11-12-2023, 01:32 PM
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To answer an earlier question you asked, yes I'm in the USA. Same charging data should show on your dashboard. On my vehicle this screen with essentially the same information as the app automatically activates when charging is initiated. The mobile app on my iPhone is much easier to use plus the data can be viewed remotely as well as modifications made to the settings.
11-16-2023, 08:39 PM
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To answer an earlier question you asked, yes I'm in the USA. Same charging data should show on your dashboard. On my vehicle this screen with essentially the same information as the app automatically activates when charging is initiated. The mobile app on my iPhone is much easier to use plus the data can be viewed remotely as well as modifications made to the settings.
11-26-2023, 02:02 PM
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XC60 T8 ER; pondering GLE 450e
The five GLE 450e vehicles that I have test-driven in the last two weeks (at four different dealerships) all charge off level-2 chargers at the dealerships.
I'm waiting to test-drive one to a DC-fast-charging station to see how fast-charging works (or doesn't) in this vehicle. It makes no sense to me,
as a three-non-MB-PHEV owner, that you have to "activate" a "service" online before charging your vehicle; that has not been the case for any other
non-MB PHEV or BEV that I have driven (and we're talking a LOT of EVs that I've owned and test-driven).
11-26-2023, 02:41 PM
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- at temp above 10c (40f?) 85-95km
- at temp near 0c (30f?) 70-80km
For daily commute under 60miles, it’s pretty much all EV car. see my stats below.
the MOST disappointing part, I cannot get car to charge above 7.6kw, and it’s advertised with 9.6kw. It does not matter which charger I use, state of battery or other conditions.
11-26-2023, 10:39 PM
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How is your 450e starting in the cold morning when heater has to start to warm up the interior? In Minnesota, the winter here is so long (8 months of the year) and the ICE has to warm up in order to get any heat to warm the interior up. How do PHEVs produce heat in the cold start if only using battery?
11-26-2023, 11:18 PM
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How is your 450e starting in the cold morning when heater has to start to warm up the interior? In Minnesota, the winter here is so long (8 months of the year) and the ICE has to warm up in order to get any heat to warm the interior up. How do PHEVs produce heat in the cold start if only using battery?
see below - car scheduled to be warmed up by 8:18am tomorrow, or can be manually activated to reach target settings.
11-27-2023, 12:08 AM
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Thanks for your answer.
I will stop by local MB dealer and testing it. Tomorrow will be cold here; single digit wind-chill. May be a good time for conversation with a Salesman.
I will stop by local MB dealer and testing it. Tomorrow will be cold here; single digit wind-chill. May be a good time for conversation with a Salesman.
