Tire Life - GLE450E / GLE450
10-11-2023, 09:41 AM
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Tire Life - GLE450E / GLE450
Hello all, can those of you that have a GLE450E or GLE450 tell me about the tire life? Especially those who have the 21" wheels on their vehicles. I know the GLE450E was just recently released, so I understand there won't be any high mileage examples, but would like to get a good gauge. I currently have a 2017 GLC43 with 21" wheels and it chews through tires. We have to replace every 10K miles at most and we don't drive aggresively.
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10-11-2023, 10:27 AM
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Hello all, can those of you that have a GLE450E or GLE450 tell me about the tire life? Especially those who have the 21" wheels on their vehicles. I know the GLE450E was just recently released, so I understand there won't be any high mileage examples, but would like to get a good gauge. I currently have a 2017 GLC43 with 21" wheels and it chews through tires. We have to replace every 10K miles at most and we don't drive aggresively.
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Electric and hybrid drives eat tires, in addition to MB’s normal tire appetite, because electric drive torque is “instant on” and tire slip (tire slip is not the same as tire spin) at low tire rpm is greater than an ICE + torque converter powertrain. More tire slip = more tire wear.
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10-11-2023, 11:02 AM
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Tire life
Hello all, can those of you that have a GLE450E or GLE450 tell me about the tire life? Especially those who have the 21" wheels on their vehicles. I know the GLE450E was just recently released, so I understand there won't be any high mileage examples, but would like to get a good gauge. I currently have a 2017 GLC43 with 21" wheels and it chews through tires. We have to replace every 10K miles at most and we don't drive aggressively.
Thanks!
Thanks!
10-11-2023, 11:12 AM
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Do you have the high performance summer only tires? Those will not last long at all. If you use summer performance tires at temps in the 40s or below, you will cause even more wear or damage to the tires. I don't know if Mercedes specs all season or high performance on the 21" tires for the GLE 450. I have the 20" all season Michelins on my GLE450 and they don't show unusual tread wear after 7,000 miles.
10-11-2023, 11:21 AM
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Do you have the high performance summer only tires? Those will not last long at all. If you use summer performance tires at temps in the 40s or below, you will cause even more wear or damage to the tires. I don't know if Mercedes specs all season or high performance on the 21" tires for the GLE 450. I have the 20" all season Michelins on my GLE450 and they don't show unusual tread wear after 7,000 miles.
10-11-2023, 03:34 PM
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What is your driving style like? 27K on original tires is excellent. The one I'm looking at has these tires on 21s. Thanks!
10-11-2023, 03:40 PM
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My wife mostly drives it - commuting and some trips, so pretty gently driven. I have driven it hard in Sport+ mode in the twisties and the tires perform well. I switch to Winter tires for a few months, so haven't tired them in snow or ice.
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10-11-2023, 04:17 PM
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Okay thanks. That sounds exactly the same as my situation.
10-11-2023, 06:25 PM
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2021 GLE450 20 inch tires 21000 miles perili scorpion zero all weather so far great tires. They will easy make it to 30000+ miles will probably replace with same brand and tire when the time comes.
10-12-2023, 12:20 AM
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Wife's 2021 GLE 450 had Michelin primacy tours on it. Phenomenal ride after I adjusted the tire pressures as helped by many on this group. Replaced all 4 at 20k due to uneven wear from the off tire pressures. Luckily Michelins had 30k tire warranty and prorated the new tires.
Very happy with the new set. They do decently well in the snow too. Detroit metro area.
Very happy with the new set. They do decently well in the snow too. Detroit metro area.
10-12-2023, 10:56 AM
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My 2020 GLE 450 received on Oct 2020 has around 55,000 KMs (I am from Toronto, Canada) on the original Pirelli Scorpion Zeros and current levels are 4/32 which I need to replace ASAP. Never had a winter tire and I am trying to decide if I want to keep this car (buy it back) or return the lease and get another vehicle which will affect my tire decision. Also my other question is if I have rims and tires warranty, would that cover tire replacement or not?
What do you guys recommend (Keep vs. Buy?)
What do you guys recommend (Keep vs. Buy?)
10-12-2023, 11:07 AM
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MY 2022 GLE 450 with 20 inch Coopers. Had to replace rears at 20K - very disappointing. At 40K now; probably need fronts in another 5K, but rear still look like new.
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Aggressive driving doesn’t seem to hasten tire wear that much…keep your tires inflated to the recommended pressure on the gas cap. The factory 21” Continental AS on the GLE 53 were easily going to exceed 30k if I replaced them at 3/32. Front and rear were wearing close to the same.
10-13-2023, 09:10 AM
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I have a 350 with 19" tires so not an exact comparison. At 19k miles the OEM Bridgestone run flat tires passed state inspection but the dealer recommended I replace them. They were even nice enough to give me a quote of over $2k for a new set of the same POS tires.
I replaced them with Vredestein Quatrac Pro and the ride quality vastly improved.
I replaced them with Vredestein Quatrac Pro and the ride quality vastly improved.
10-16-2023, 12:18 AM
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TIRE LIFE - Hard to imagine but Fact / Reality is OEM there is no adjustment for other then showroom height conditions - to resolve costly, premature excess edge tire wear (New car industry’s best kept secret).
OEM there is only basic Toe “directional” adjustment.
No essential front or rear Camber adjustment allowing to adjust tire contact angles, spread load more evenly. Excess edge load can also lead to higher impact ruptured side walls.
Deletion of adjustment is all to do with cost cutting and “ever increasing speed” of new car assembly lines.
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AUDI to VOLVO - K-MAC Experience Of Resolving OEM Suspension Shortcomings Since 1964 !
OEM there is only basic Toe “directional” adjustment.
No essential front or rear Camber adjustment allowing to adjust tire contact angles, spread load more evenly. Excess edge load can also lead to higher impact ruptured side walls.
Deletion of adjustment is all to do with cost cutting and “ever increasing speed” of new car assembly lines.
SEE SPOILER
AUDI to VOLVO - K-MAC Experience Of Resolving OEM Suspension Shortcomings Since 1964 !
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10-16-2023, 09:45 PM
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TIRE LIFE - Hard to imagine but Fact / Reality is OEM there is no adjustment for other then showroom height conditions - to resolve costly, premature excess edge tire wear (New car industry’s best kept secret).
OEM there is only basic Toe “directional” adjustment.
No essential front or rear Camber adjustment allowing to adjust tire contact angles, spread load more evenly. Excess edge load can also lead to higher impact ruptured side walls.
Deletion of adjustment is all to do with cost cutting and “ever increasing speed” of new car assembly lines.
OEM there is only basic Toe “directional” adjustment.
No essential front or rear Camber adjustment allowing to adjust tire contact angles, spread load more evenly. Excess edge load can also lead to higher impact ruptured side walls.
Deletion of adjustment is all to do with cost cutting and “ever increasing speed” of new car assembly lines.
10-16-2023, 09:59 PM
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Yes, obviously trying to sell their products, and while it is true that more adjustability is good and may be needed for some vehicles, I don't see the need here, unless I were tracking a 63 and need more camber.
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10-17-2023, 03:00 AM
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Yes whilst showroom height / light loads front and rear “Camber” angle does not change.
We can only go on the feedback from owners bemoaning the fact that whether sedans, wagons or SUV's “they expected more” - there is no front or rear ongoing camber adjustment to cater for conditions encountered in day to day commuting.
Whether it be above altered height or the excess passengers side edge wear through high cambered roads and no means to compensate / adjust - other then expense of premature tire replacement !
AUDI to VOLVO - K-MAC Experience Of Resolving OEM Suspension Shortcomings Since 1964 !
We can only go on the feedback from owners bemoaning the fact that whether sedans, wagons or SUV's “they expected more” - there is no front or rear ongoing camber adjustment to cater for conditions encountered in day to day commuting.
Whether it be above altered height or the excess passengers side edge wear through high cambered roads and no means to compensate / adjust - other then expense of premature tire replacement !
AUDI to VOLVO - K-MAC Experience Of Resolving OEM Suspension Shortcomings Since 1964 !
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10-17-2023, 02:04 PM
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'21 AMG53 wDPP & ARC, 19 GLC300 - Former- 10&14 ML BlueTecs, 20 GLE450 E-ABC, 15 Cayenne D, 17 Macan
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We can only go on the feedback from owners bemoaning the fact that whether sedans, wagons or SUV's “they expected more” - there is no front or rear ongoing camber adjustment to cater for conditions encountered in day to day commuting.
Whether it be above altered height or the excess passengers side edge wear through high cambered roads and no means to compensate / adjust - other then expense of premature tire replacement !......
We can only go on the feedback from owners bemoaning the fact that whether sedans, wagons or SUV's “they expected more” - there is no front or rear ongoing camber adjustment to cater for conditions encountered in day to day commuting.
Whether it be above altered height or the excess passengers side edge wear through high cambered roads and no means to compensate / adjust - other then expense of premature tire replacement !......
Here's my tread depths, at end of life, Conti 21" all seasons, staggered, no rotations.
F&R, at 3 and 4 points across each tire.
LF- 4.5/32, 4.5/32 4.5/32, 3.5/32 outside shoulder.
RF- 4/32, 4/42, 4/32, 3.5/32 outside shoulder.
LR- exactly 5/32 all across, including inside and outside shoulders.
RR- exactly 5/32 all across, except outside shoulder 4.5/32.
(My W164 wore the rear inside to 1/32 (oops) when the outside was 4/32.)
Included about 200 miles at a clockwise track. First time I've experienced "graining," and it's certainly slippery!
I attribute the outside front shoulder wear to track use.
I wouldn't change to adjustable links "just because" of old camber complaints.
It would commit me to spending a lot of time on the alignment rack, "dialing in" a different setup. With my fingers crossed that I can do better.
Lots of miles, lots of measurements, lots of calculations, and for what?
I don't see the need for a Street Car.
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10-17-2023, 10:20 PM
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As explained showroom height yes - no Camber change ! But passenger side premature edge wear through high cambered roads or altered height through load carrying or lowering (“lowering the roll center” - improving handling / safety is popular for those not offroading), curb knock damage - CAMBER ADJUSTMENT IS ESSENTIAL TO RESOLVE COSTLY, PREMATURE TIRE REPLACEMENT. YET OEM only basic Toe directional adjustment.
You mention upper adjustable links for SUV models - yes we manufacture these but front suspension first choice is our lower arm adjusters. Unique patented design breakthrough. No time consuming trial and error. Instead Ultimate - single wrench, precise adjustment direct on alignment rack under load !
You mention upper adjustable links for SUV models - yes we manufacture these but front suspension first choice is our lower arm adjusters. Unique patented design breakthrough. No time consuming trial and error. Instead Ultimate - single wrench, precise adjustment direct on alignment rack under load !
10-17-2023, 10:31 PM
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I agree that more adjustment is likely needed, if you want to lower a car.
And it sounds like your product would be a good one for that.
What I was trying to show with my measurements, is that additional adjustability isn't needed for standard height cars.
Your primary claim is that standard cars need your products.
But I think your primary Market is people who want to lower their car.
At least from what I can see.
And it sounds like your product would be a good one for that.
What I was trying to show with my measurements, is that additional adjustability isn't needed for standard height cars.
Your primary claim is that standard cars need your products.
But I think your primary Market is people who want to lower their car.
At least from what I can see.
10-17-2023, 11:00 PM
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That’s right - standard height but even then - for owners as mentioned who have passenger side excess edge wear or carry load - passengers, luggage, tools then “Camber change” takes place. Having no factory adjustment. Result is “Costly, premature tire replacement” as the only option !
