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Hello everybody!
I will soon take delivery of a GLE53 AND i need some help regarding winter wheels for the car.
So, I ordered the car with the Dynamic package that includes the red brakes. Because of this I was forced to pick 21 or 22 inch wheels for the summer tires. I went with the black 22 inch wheels, but I would not use them during winter time.
My question is: can you fit the 20 inch amg wheels on a 53amg with red brakes? (Or any other OE 20 inch wheels)
many thanks!!!
Hello everybody!
I will soon take delivery of a GLE53 AND i need some help regarding winter wheels for the car.
So, I ordered the car with the Dynamic package that includes the red brakes. Because of this I was forced to pick 21 or 22 inch wheels for the summer tires. I went with the black 22 inch wheels, but I would not use them during winter time.
My question is: can you fit the 20 inch amg wheels on a 53amg with red brakes? (Or any other OE 20 inch wheels)
many thanks!!!
You might do a search there are several threads on the subject. I ran aftermarket 20’s on my 53 with those brakes. You need et45, get more clearance with et35,40. The offset and the wheel design are a factor for caliper clearance. You won’t get much help on Websites (i.e Tire Rack) since they will default to a staggered setup. I put in a GLE 450 with 20’s to get some (square) wheel selections for my incoming 63. There are premium wheel suppliers that might help you with fitment if this isn’t your strong point. Here are the set that I ran that fit on the 53:
MSW 30 et45 https://www.tirerack.com/wheels/Whee...ar=275%2F50-20
I got a great deal on these AMG staggered rims and had them power coated black. I'm picking them up today and having them installed on my GLE63 with Pirelli Scorpion winter tires. I went back and forth many times on what to do about winter tires, I just didn't like the look of any of the 20" options out there. I wanted to retain the staggered look of the car. I will post some pics once they are installed. And yes, be careful choosing rims. Very few will actually clear the red brakes.
I have a brand new set of 21" Conti summer tires for sale if anyone is interested !
Looks great @chrislk55 !
Thankfully the "harsh" FL winters allow me to keep the 22s year round, but I enjoy reading about all the solutions for snow from the members here.
My winter setup .... AMG 21" rims power coated black with Pirelli Scorpion Winter tires. Staggered setup.
Nice look! Main reason I want to pick 20 inch for winter is the fact that I don't want the staggered setup on snow. I guess I will have to wait for the car and just put on a 20inch wheel to see how/if it fits.
You might do a search there are several threads on the subject. I ran aftermarket 20’s on my 53 with those brakes. You need et45, get more clearance with et35,40. The offset and the wheel design are a factor for caliper clearance. You won’t get much help on Websites (i.e Tire Rack) since they will default to a staggered setup. I put in a GLE 450 with 20’s to get some (square) wheel selections for my incoming 63. There are premium wheel suppliers that might help you with fitment if this isn’t your strong point. Here are the set that I ran that fit on the 53:
MSW 30 et45 https://www.tirerack.com/wheels/Whee...ar=275%2F50-20
I have a picture of your winter setup from the 53 saved on my phone, I showed it to my dealer and he said I have to pick one of the current amg models from the configurator..
I have a picture of your winter setup from the 53 saved on my phone, I showed it to my dealer and he said I have to pick one of the current amg models from the configurator..
i’n not clear on the question and answer. You already have selected a set for your incoming 53.
You can put what you want on for winter driving or to change the look. A Luxury Car Dealer won't normally get involved in aftermarket wheels. There is a huge industry supplying wheel options. There are lots of vehicles running aftermarket wheels for winter and many people change the look with wheels like Vossen, BBM, Mandrus, etc. The issue is getting the proper fitment-bolt pattern; offset; size; ballseat vs conical; diameter…to fit properly in the wheel well/clear hardware. There are tire size calculators to compare different setups. Some have the knowledge to DIY, others use a wheel expert/supplier.
I would like to buy another set for winter, but I would like 20inch and OE if possible, I am not a fan of AM wheels.
That is the question, is there any Mercedes set of 20inch wheels that would fit the big red brakes of a Gle53? When ordering the car with the big brakes you can only pick 21 or 22 inch wheels, but I would like to have more "rubber" for winter so 20 inch would be my pick.
So, if anybody managed to fit a 20inch set (Mercedes) on a Gle53 amg with red brakes, please post a picture of your setup. Many thanks!
I would like to buy another set for winter, but I would like 20inch and OE if possible, I am not a fan of AM wheels.
That is the question, is there any Mercedes set of 20inch wheels that would fit the big red brakes of a Gle53? When ordering the car with the big brakes you can only pick 21 or 22 inch wheels, but I would like to have more "rubber" for winter so 20 inch would be my pick.
So, if anybody managed to fit a 20inch set (Mercedes) on a Gle53 amg with red brakes, please post a picture of your setup. Many thanks!
I had the same thoughts, although there are some really good AM options like Vossen, they will cost almost as much and sometimes more than a branded AMG rim. This is why I chose to seek out a used set and refinish them.
My dealer did offer me these as a 20" option, I wasn't particularly fond of the look so it was a pass. Apparently these will clear the brakes.
My winter set of tires and wheels were less than $2500 in late 2020. I ran them 2 winters and sold them for $1200. Prices have gone up a bunch on tires but options are still in the $3-4k range depending on wheels.
I’ll be going back to the Michelin Pilot Alpin 5 SUv tire in 20”. They are magic on ice or snow, quiet at speed and wear great. I made several trips south with temps in the 70’s that didn’t phase them even at freeway speeds of 80+. I understand the comfort factor with factory wheels.
Here is my Porsche that cost $3400 with TPMS sensors:
My winter set of tires and wheels were less than $2500 in late 2020. I ran them 2 winters and sold them for $1200. Prices have gone up a bunch on tires but options are still in the $3-4k range depending on wheels.
I’ll be going back to the Michelin Pilot Alpin 5 SUv tire in 20”. They are magic on ice or snow, quiet at speed and wear great. I made several trips south with temps in the 70’s that didn’t phase them even at freeway speeds of 80+. I understand the comfort factor with factory wheels.
Here is my Porsche that cost $3400 with TPMS sensors:
@Ron.s What brand are those rims? They look pretty sweet.
I have had problems in the past with AM wheels, especially on xdrive bmw's with the transfer case. I do not know if this would be the case for the Gle, but I decided I will only stick with original rims in the future, just for peace of mind.
Thank you for your posts, now I have at least one functioning option. I have a few weeks until the car arrives, so plenty of time to take a decision that works for me.
@Ron.s What brand are those rims? They look pretty sweet.
Going from memory they are Savini Black DiForza from Tire Rack. I don’t see them listed with the Merc bolt pattern.
Wheels can’t cause an issue with a transfer case. Having different diameter tires can if the difference is large enough. If you run staggered factory tires front and back in a tire size calculator, you will see that even though they are different sizes… they are close to the same diameter/circumference.
That’s why a damaged tire often requires all new tires if the exiting tires are worn more than 2/32..
Just found this on my AD site:
A16740168007X69 on the front and
A16740169007X69 on the back.
They are very close to the specificationa of the 21" Amg wheels, but the dealer says that they are not ok for the GLE53, only for regular GLE. Any ideea why?
Double check the offset of the wheels, I believe you should be fine but you should reconfirm before spending $$. Dealer isn’t always the best resource.
Just found this on my AD site:
A16740168007X69 on the front and
A16740169007X69 on the back.
They are very close to the specificationa of the 21" Amg wheels, but the dealer says that they are not ok for the GLE53, only for regular GLE. Any ideea why?
A16740168007X69
You don’t provide any information needed to answer your question. The picture has AMG stamped on the wheel and looks like the 21” available on the GLE 53 & 63 S. Is that the wheel?
I wouldn’t trust a Dealer-they will only determine fitment by wheels offered stock from the factory. Many other wheels will work, even non staggered.
The picture is of the 21" normally fitted to Gle amg, for the set I want to buy I posted the OE codes, for front and rear. They are 21" also, but posted on site for regular GLE.
P.s. I will get back later with more details, I am.writting from my phone now.
The picture is of the 21" normally fitted to Gle amg, for the set I want to buy I posted the OE codes, for front and rear. They are 21" also, but posted on site for regular GLE.
Maybe someone else will do the work for you of looking everything up from the part numbers!
The primary issues you should be concerned about are:
1. Will they clear the brake calipers? Do you have the larger brakes on your car? If not and they fit on a GLEv450 then they will probably work on the AMG 53.
2. Will they clear inner/outer fender wells/hardware? Probably yes…the GLE has wide clearances. Offset (et xx) and tire/wheel size/width can be compared using an online calculator to see how clearances compare to stock.
3. Weight rating of the wheel. SUV/AMG wheels may have an heavier weight rating. Probably not an issue here.
If you are looking at aftermarket wheels then the bolt will normally have a conical seat so you need new lug bolts too. Mercedes bolt pattern is 5X112mm.
I appreciate your answer, but there is no reason to be mean..I said I am writting from my phone and will get back with all the information. Meanwhile I posted the codes just in case somebody has bought the same rims for a 53 and knows if they are ok or not.
But again, I appreciate the you making time to answer here, thank you!
So, quick recap: 2024 GLE53 AMG with red brakes (SA-U70) will soon be delivered with 22 inch summer wheels. Needing winter wheels, my first option was to get 20" wheels, but my AD said there is no chance I can fit OE 20inch wheels, minimum is 21. Even if some wheels will fit, their advice is to follow Mercedes guideline and stick to minimum 21".
With that in mind, it looks that I only have 2 options:
1) this 21" set that is designed for AMG models, with the following specifications: 5x112 10JxR21 ET51 front and 5x112 11JxR21 ET47 rear. The set comes with 275/45/21 110V tyres front and 315/40/21 115V tyres rear. This will cost around 6000$
2) this 21" set is designed for regular GLE with the following specifications: 5x112 10JxR21 ET54,6 front and 5x112 11JxR21 ET49 rear. The set comes with 275/45/21 107V tyres front and 315/40/21 111V tyres rear. This set is only 3500$
I wanted to order the second set because of the price, but I was told that it is still not ok for my car..this time the agent told me that the configurator only allows the first option for 21" wheels, because the second set is not designed for AMG models.
Before I go ahead and spend the extra money, can anybody tell me why the second set is not ok? From what I see, the only difference is the ET, but nothing extraordinary, I doubt 2-3mm would make a difference.
I don't really care about the look of the wheels during winter time, I just want a good OE set and, if possible, not paying 6000$ for it. Thank you!
Just found this on my AD site:
A16740168007X69 on the front and
A16740169007X69 on the back.
They are very close to the specificationa of the 21" Amg wheels, but the dealer says that they are not ok for the GLE53, only for regular GLE. Any ideea why?
A16740168007X69
Ask the dealer why they said that.
It could be offset, fender clearance, suspension upright clearance, brake clearance, lug pattern or circle. Or some other the reason.
Ask the dealer, and then post their answer here and we can help assess.
I had a very similar experience, I had some tire dealers tell me 20" would work but could not guarantee they will clear the brakes. That wasn't a risk I was prepared to take .... The only guaranteed fit was your option 1 which is what I did and have been immensely happy. I've had it out in rain, snow and sleet and despite the less than ideal size of the rears, the car handled perfectly with the Pirelli Scorpion Winter tires. Absolutely no regrets and the car still looks decent.
11-30-2023, 07:39 AM
