"Smart" key...LOL
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But how to insert yourself into the proper seating position for the Face ID to work, if the seat is way too close?
The solution is like my Tesla... phone key. Have phone pair with Bluetooth in the car, and if the car picks up my wifes phone first, oh well, then I am back where I am now, I have to switch profiles on the touch screen.
The solution is like my Tesla... phone key. Have phone pair with Bluetooth in the car, and if the car picks up my wifes phone first, oh well, then I am back where I am now, I have to switch profiles on the touch screen.
Set memory number 3 to the primary driver's seat position, in all profiles.
Then, open the door, push 3, and get in.
Then you can select your profile.
Alternatively, set memory number 3 to allow every driver to enter (far enough back for a tall driver), press three and get in. Then, if you use profiles (which I don't), you can select it and hit your seat setting.
I do this on both front seats, so if the passenger seat is set for a shorty and I pick up a tall friend, I can just use the "gentleman's button" on the driver's door to adjust the seat for him (#3), without having to explain controls.
Yes, you have to wait 3 to 6 seconds for the seat to adjust after you've opened the door.
I'm okay with that.
Unless I'm the getaway driver, but if that's my job I'll plan ahead. Can't be wasting 5 seconds if you're fleeing....
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I'd prefer psychic controls. Brain waves have been proven to be able to transform into particles and particles can affect other matter.....soooooo....why can't I just think about the settings I want and my car abides before my cheeks even hit the seat??? C'mon Benz, be the first! MBUX+ now with psychic control!!!!
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I'd prefer psychic controls. Brain waves have been proven to be able to transform into particles and particles can affect other matter.....soooooo....why can't I just think about the settings I want and my car abides before my cheeks even hit the seat??? C'mon Benz, be the first! MBUX+ now with psychic control!!!!
MB is the first only manufacturer with full self-driving FSD allowed in the US.
Tesla and all the other FSD wannabes aren't there yet.
Who knows what the future will bring, to coin a phrase. I'm sitting here thinking about mowing my lawn, but the mower isn't picking up my waves yet.
I'll bet some manufacturer has already patented the term Psychic Control.
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I have a solution to the saved seat settings problem. Don’t let anyone drive your car. When I drive my wife’s car, I drive in a scrunched position, so I don’t ruin her seat settings.
I don’t necessarily have a solution to the easy In and out. The seat should go all the way back and down while the wheel goes up and forward. That seems simple enough.
About the touchscreen. They replaced buttons and knobs, which in many cases, you had to take your eyes off the road to interface. I would concede that the touchscreen is less safe, but only slightly. I am not a huge fan of the touchscreen anyway.
I don’t necessarily have a solution to the easy In and out. The seat should go all the way back and down while the wheel goes up and forward. That seems simple enough.
About the touchscreen. They replaced buttons and knobs, which in many cases, you had to take your eyes off the road to interface. I would concede that the touchscreen is less safe, but only slightly. I am not a huge fan of the touchscreen anyway.
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Yes I have a version of this workaround, which is she has position 2 on her profile and mine, and I have position 1 on her and mine.
That way I just have to press 1 whenever I come to the car and the seat looks scrunched forward.
Not the worst problem in life but an unecessary inconvenience, compared to Tesla.
However, I love this GLE 350 to the point where I will overlook these issues.
BTW, Tesla V12 FSD is so far beyond Mercedes L3, it's not even in the same universe. I am not a Tesla fan boi, but I am in computer vision and AI field, and I own both an MY and GLE 350 (just Driver Assistant Packages). I've read the constraints on Mercedes L3 being able to operate and it does not seem competitive at all with Tesla.
That way I just have to press 1 whenever I come to the car and the seat looks scrunched forward.
Not the worst problem in life but an unecessary inconvenience, compared to Tesla.
However, I love this GLE 350 to the point where I will overlook these issues.
BTW, Tesla V12 FSD is so far beyond Mercedes L3, it's not even in the same universe. I am not a Tesla fan boi, but I am in computer vision and AI field, and I own both an MY and GLE 350 (just Driver Assistant Packages). I've read the constraints on Mercedes L3 being able to operate and it does not seem competitive at all with Tesla.
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Yes I have a version of this workaround, which is she has position 2 on her profile and mine, and I have position 1 on her and mine.
That way I just have to press 1 whenever I come to the car and the seat looks scrunched forward.
Not the worst problem in life but an unecessary inconvenience, compared to Tesla.
However, I love this GLE 350 to the point where I will overlook these issues.
BTW, Tesla V12 FSD is so far beyond Mercedes L3, it's not even in the same universe. I am not a Tesla fan boi, but I am in computer vision and AI field, and I own both an MY and GLE 350 (just Driver Assistant Packages). I've read the constraints on Mercedes L3 being able to operate and it does not seem competitive at all with Tesla.
That way I just have to press 1 whenever I come to the car and the seat looks scrunched forward.
Not the worst problem in life but an unecessary inconvenience, compared to Tesla.
However, I love this GLE 350 to the point where I will overlook these issues.
BTW, Tesla V12 FSD is so far beyond Mercedes L3, it's not even in the same universe. I am not a Tesla fan boi, but I am in computer vision and AI field, and I own both an MY and GLE 350 (just Driver Assistant Packages). I've read the constraints on Mercedes L3 being able to operate and it does not seem competitive at all with Tesla.
It's my understanding that Tesla uses cameras and downloaded images, where Mercedes doesn't need those.
Mercedes is still limited to certain speeds, lighting and weather conditions.
For Tesla, FSD is another source of subscription revenue.
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Tesla isn't allowed to use FSD in the United States anywhere. I think that means it's not more advanced than Mercedes, which does have permission in some areas.
It's my understanding that Tesla uses cameras and downloaded images, where Mercedes doesn't need those.
Mercedes is still limited to certain speeds, lighting and weather conditions.
For Tesla, FSD is another source of subscription revenue.
It's my understanding that Tesla uses cameras and downloaded images, where Mercedes doesn't need those.
Mercedes is still limited to certain speeds, lighting and weather conditions.
For Tesla, FSD is another source of subscription revenue.
Tesla uses streaming video from cameras surrounding the vehicle. Mercedes I suspect relies on radar/USS towards the front and ultrasonic sensors (USS) to sides and rear directions.
I enjoy the Driver Assistance on my GLE 350, would not want a MB without as much as driver assistance as I can get.
That being said, my Tesla FSD is far far more advanced. It actually solves driving and routing problems in ways I simply cannot, since I don't have universal knowledge of all existing paths, for example my Tesla FSD got me out of a huge mall parking lot by using an obscure exit road I didn't even know existed, but was far quicker than what i would have chosen. It's really impressive. Get an FSD12 ride from somebody you know.
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FSD12 may be impressive but It doesn't live up to its name. It's not Full Self Driving, nor is it autonomous.
Tesla's attempt at real autonomous driving is not approved in the US, and it doesn't look like it will be approved in China either. Because it relies heavily on cameras. Cameras are verboten in China because of their privacy concerns.
Mercedes "Route-Based Navigation" is similar, but I don't like it because it always goes the speed limit, including obeying the yellow corner speed advisories. Ugh. I suppose it would get better fuel economy, but I didn't buy a fast car to go slow.
I'll have to try it sometime to see if it can find its way out of a convoluted parking lot.
I wish the Mercedes system used capacitors to sense drivers Hands on the wheel, as required by the Feds. But I can live with that.
Tesla's attempt at real autonomous driving is not approved in the US, and it doesn't look like it will be approved in China either. Because it relies heavily on cameras. Cameras are verboten in China because of their privacy concerns.
Mercedes "Route-Based Navigation" is similar, but I don't like it because it always goes the speed limit, including obeying the yellow corner speed advisories. Ugh. I suppose it would get better fuel economy, but I didn't buy a fast car to go slow.
I'll have to try it sometime to see if it can find its way out of a convoluted parking lot.
I wish the Mercedes system used capacitors to sense drivers Hands on the wheel, as required by the Feds. But I can live with that.
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Definitely 100% not FULL self driving. I can attest to that daily. However, it does automate like 99.5% of my driving daily. Including all lane changes, finding on ramps, off ramps, 4 way stops, roundabouts, even parking.
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Ale the newer steering wheels do just that, like in the new E-class. I'm guessing the newest facelift version of the GLE also has capacitive sensors in the wheel.
