View Poll Results: Is 450 worth (vs 350) the $7k for everyday city driving
Yes, hands down, 450 is better regardless
22
73.33%
For city driving, the 350 is just as good
8
26.67%
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2025 350 vs 450
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'21 AMG53 wDPP & ARC, 19 GLC300 - Former-03 C240,2 ML BlueTecs,20 GLE450 E-ABC,15 Cayenne D,17 Macan
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2021 c300 Cab. Arrived 7/28/21 . 24 GLE 450e.
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2025 GLE 580, 2023 Ram Rebel
In late 2020 I test drove a 2021 gle 350; I liked it OK; however, the car would shake when the engine came back on at stoplights, and I didn’t like having to rev the engine to get up to highway speeds. So, I bought a 2021 GLE 450 and have been happy ever since. The stop/start feature is so smooth I have to look at the tachometer to figure out if the engine is on or off, and getting up to highway speeds is strong and smooth without any drama.
Later on, I experienced the same 350 engine shake on a loaner, which helped galvanize my decision to buy the 450.
When my salesman tried to get me into a 2024 GLE 450e, I told him “No Thanks” (I didn’t even test drive it), because I didn't like the 350 engine, the spare tire had to be deleted to make room for the massive battery under the cargo floor, and, at the time, the 450e was going through “teething” issues -- in fact, I couldn’t even test drive their only 450e because it was “down” for more than a month waiting for that massive battery to be replaced.
As the end of my warranty nears (Nov ’24) I have to decide whether to keep the 450 another 3 years (with an extended warranty) or order a 2025 GLE 580.
Later on, I experienced the same 350 engine shake on a loaner, which helped galvanize my decision to buy the 450.
When my salesman tried to get me into a 2024 GLE 450e, I told him “No Thanks” (I didn’t even test drive it), because I didn't like the 350 engine, the spare tire had to be deleted to make room for the massive battery under the cargo floor, and, at the time, the 450e was going through “teething” issues -- in fact, I couldn’t even test drive their only 450e because it was “down” for more than a month waiting for that massive battery to be replaced.
As the end of my warranty nears (Nov ’24) I have to decide whether to keep the 450 another 3 years (with an extended warranty) or order a 2025 GLE 580.
Last edited by HDLBRG; Jul 6, 2024 at 05:46 PM.
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In late 2020 I test drove a 2021 gle 350; I liked it OK; however, the car would shake when the engine came back on at stoplights, and I didn’t like having to rev the engine to get up to highway speeds. So, I bought a 2021 GLE 450 and have been happy ever since. The stop/start feature is so smooth I have to look at the tachometer to figure out if the engine is on or off, and getting up to highway speeds is strong and smooth without any drama.
Later on, I experienced the same 350 engine shake on a loaner, which helped galvanize my decision to buy the 450.
When my salesman tried to get me into a 2024 GLE 450e, I told him “No Thanks” (I didn’t even test drive it), because I didn't like the 350 engine, the spare tire had to be deleted to make room for the massive battery under the cargo floor, and, at the time, the 450e was going through “teething” issues -- in fact, I couldn’t even test drive their only 450e because it was “down” for more than a month waiting for that massive battery to be replaced.
As the end of my warranty nears (Nov ’24) I have to decide whether to keep the 450 another 3 years (with an extended warranty) or order a 2025 GLE 580.
Later on, I experienced the same 350 engine shake on a loaner, which helped galvanize my decision to buy the 450.
When my salesman tried to get me into a 2024 GLE 450e, I told him “No Thanks” (I didn’t even test drive it), because I didn't like the 350 engine, the spare tire had to be deleted to make room for the massive battery under the cargo floor, and, at the time, the 450e was going through “teething” issues -- in fact, I couldn’t even test drive their only 450e because it was “down” for more than a month waiting for that massive battery to be replaced.
As the end of my warranty nears (Nov ’24) I have to decide whether to keep the 450 another 3 years (with an extended warranty) or order a 2025 GLE 580.
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2025 GLE 580, 2023 Ram Rebel
So, an inline 6 is smoother than a V8? I turned to Wikipedia for the answer and found this (see link below), but my old brain got tired. There’s probably a reason why I didn’t score as well on the Mechanical portion of the ASVAB 51 years ago. Fortunately that kept me out of aircraft maintenance on a flightline in Montana. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engine...herent_balance
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engine...herent_balance
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I thought the same thing until I was told the battery will always keep a reserve to prevent the car from just driving on the 4 banger without electric assist.
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2024 GLE 450, 2009 SLK 300
My straight six Mercedes and straight six BMWs were smoother than the BMW V8 and Jeep V8s I have owned. I've never had a Mercedes V8. I think the BMW straight six is one of the smoothest engines made. Both the V8 and straight six are far superior to the 4 cylinder.
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Although I generally agree that V8 is smoother than a V6, from experience, an inline 6 is smoother than a V8 although others also said otherwise, that said, a V12 is smoother than them all from my experience (not my car but had an opportunity to drive a S 650 at some point it is was certainly smoother than a S 560 at the time. Which I wouldn't be surprised because there are reasons ultra luxury cars like Rolls have 12 cylinders.
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I just have never found I-6 to feel smoother than a V8 in the same car. For instance the S Class, driving both back to back the V8 is much smoother and more refined than the I6 S500. Same is true in the 7 Series, the V8 is smoother and more refined than the B58 in that car and the X7 driving them back to back.
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In late 2020 I test drove a 2021 gle 350; I liked it OK; however, the car would shake when the engine came back on at stoplights, and I didn’t like having to rev the engine to get up to highway speeds. So, I bought a 2021 GLE 450 and have been happy ever since. The stop/start feature is so smooth I have to look at the tachometer to figure out if the engine is on or off, and getting up to highway speeds is strong and smooth without any drama.
Later on, I experienced the same 350 engine shake on a loaner, which helped galvanize my decision to buy the 450.
When my salesman tried to get me into a 2024 GLE 450e, I told him “No Thanks” (I didn’t even test drive it), because I didn't like the 350 engine, the spare tire had to be deleted to make room for the massive battery under the cargo floor, and, at the time, the 450e was going through “teething” issues -- in fact, I couldn’t even test drive their only 450e because it was “down” for more than a month waiting for that massive battery to be replaced.
As the end of my warranty nears (Nov ’24) I have to decide whether to keep the 450 another 3 years (with an extended warranty) or order a 2025 GLE 580.
Later on, I experienced the same 350 engine shake on a loaner, which helped galvanize my decision to buy the 450.
When my salesman tried to get me into a 2024 GLE 450e, I told him “No Thanks” (I didn’t even test drive it), because I didn't like the 350 engine, the spare tire had to be deleted to make room for the massive battery under the cargo floor, and, at the time, the 450e was going through “teething” issues -- in fact, I couldn’t even test drive their only 450e because it was “down” for more than a month waiting for that massive battery to be replaced.
As the end of my warranty nears (Nov ’24) I have to decide whether to keep the 450 another 3 years (with an extended warranty) or order a 2025 GLE 580.
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They come with a spare tire if you don't order the third row seating. My 2024 GLE450 came with non run flat Michelin tires (20" Primacy Tour A/S)
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I asked my Service advisor about the direct injection carbon fouling on the intakes. He sez it not an issue as long as you use the prescribed octane of fuel 91 minimum. if you cheat and use lower than that is what loading up the EGR valve and intakes on the head. Some of that sound is the fuel injector too.
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