With the colder months upon us, I wish to remote start the car via the App to having the heated seats on and the heated steering wheel on.
How?

 

Computer says no...joking aside, that's not a feature of the remote start. Climate settings cannot be controlled remotely with the ICE models. They can with the electric models.

 

Pretty sure it’s all automatic depending on ambient temps, no?

 

On my 2020 whatever the climate settings were when the vehicle was turned off are used when it starts remotely. I don’t recall if that includes heated seats and steering wheel. I just got a 2025 so I’ll experiment one day this week

 

You may be correct for the heated steering wheel. I've read that it can be set to turn on automatically based on the ambient temperature, but I'm not finding anything in the owner's manual. The heated seats however do not automatically turn on. You can also tied the heated steering wheel to the heated seats, so when you turn on the heated seats, the heated steering wheel also turns on. That's actually the default, but there's a setting to decouple the heated steering wheel from the heated seats.

The new W214 E Class has routines. There you can set up rules and routines for this like this, so the the heated seats and heated steering wheel can be programmed to automatically turn on below a set temperature. Similar to smart home or phone automations. The GLE doesn't have the latest MBUX system for that, though.

 

Correct, whatever you left the HVAC on will be active when remote starting. That doesn't include the seat heater and heated steering wheel. Those turn off after a while. It remembers the setting for a short while, so if you park, turn off the engine to run inside a store, when you restart the engine the heated seats, seat ventilation and heated steering wheel will still be on. I don't remember for a how long it remembers the setting, though. So yes, if you remote start the engine within that time window then I assume it will also turn them back on, but if the car sat overnight, those will be off in the morning.

 

This is one of those little nit-pics that bug me about Mercedes. My 2017 Buick would remember the heated seats and steering wheel were on when you shut the car off so they came back on with a remote start. I have a 2020 Ford Escape that turns them on with remote start if the ambient temperature is low enough. Why on earth Mercedes can't do this is beyond me.

 

My rental Grand Cherokee did it too when the ambient temp is low enough. At least they are adding it to the newer systems as "routines" as Superswiss already mentioned. I'd say that my heated seats and steering wheel heat up very fast though, and my climate heater too.

 

my 2024 GLE 450e seat heating and stearing wheel heating turn on automatically when vehicle is started in low ambient temperatures. I could not find the setting.

The vehicle has a precondition feature that can be activated before going to the vehicle to heat or cool without turning on the engine. This can also be scheduled for departure time. Either once or per weekly schedule.

 

Why couldn't we remote start it from the Key? SO DUMB. My 24 GLE would never set the temp on the remote start. It always went to the last setting. It should be automatic. I swear my heated steering wheel never worked. The Cooled seats never worked either. Also that stupid "tap to prevent car from shutting off on nav".

 

Remote start is illegal in Europe from what I heard and MB is an European brand although it isn't illegal in USA so that shouldn't be an excuse. We should be grateful MB offers remote start via the app when Macan doesn't have any type of remote start. However, at the same time, bmw offers it on the key so there is that.

As for tap to prevent car from shutting off on nav, what is that?

 

You've made several posts about how dissatisfied you are with the car.
Maybe start looking at getting rid of it soon.
It is what it is.

 

remote start from app is a longer range solution
i would be happy to have no key if there was phone start with a credit card fob as backup like bmw has

 

MB never had remote start on keyfob and I don't think they ever will though.

 

You're probably right.
I keep trying to figure out an advantage of having the car start before you get in it, instead of waiting the extra 40 seconds to enter and push the button.

I can see using the app, but I won't do that to my engine. Idling while cold is probably the worst thing you can do.

 

Is idling bad in general for the engine? I sometimes idle to keep the AC on when the weather is hot.

 

Yes, yours is a hybrid.

Idling is inefficient once the engine is warm, but not harmful. Idling a cold engine is another story. It causes the engine to warm up very slowly, so the metals expand at a much slower rate and cause more wear and the oil circulates slower so it takes longer before everything is properly lubricated. Also the rest of the powertrain doesn't warm up. Your transmission is still cold once you start moving.

As for remote start via key fob, I'm also trying to find a realistic use case for that. If you are already that close to the car that the fob signal reaches it, why not just get it in, start it and drive off? It's not gonna warm up in 30 seconds. The app somewhat makes sense as you can do it from farther away, but I pretty much never use it. Granted, I live in a mild climate and I have used it once or twice on a hot day to cool down the interior before getting in, but I would also never use it on a cold day and subject my engine to cold idling.

 

What I can think of (if only MB actually does this) turn on heated seats and the heat in the winter or cooled seats in the summer (I understand MBUX 3.0 Routines enables this but not on the ICE GLE... yet)

The problem with the former is the heat on ICE won't be heating up the cabin when the engine isn't warm as it can't make use of the engine heat.

 

They can’t charge for a subscription with remote start in the remote. Also, there are many stories on the internet of people forgetting to turn off their push button cars and getting CO2 poisoning. Hence that STUPID message.

 

The advantage is warming up or cooling off the car.

 

Exactly, it makes them money when they remove it from the key fob, for example Toyota: https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/t...-subscription/

Oh that message, that makes sense then but thought remote started MBs automatically turn off after 10 minutes anyways?

 

The subscription is sort of a moot point as all services are bundled into a single subscription. So unless Remote Start is all one is using, then it's essentially thrown in with the subscription for everything else. With the initial a-la-carte model, Remote Start was a separate subscription, which I didn't renew at the time and I still paid more to renew all the other services I was using than the current $150 annual subscription for everything, so essentially I got Remote Start thrown in for free.

 

A couple years ago they earned over $1b in revenue directly from subscriptions. I remember they were hoping to hit $2b by 2025.

 

When you are in a very cold climate (ignore my profile location, I'm mostly in Canada these days), and you have 3 young kids to strap into car seats while doors are open, remote starting and warming up the car before you get there is very valuable.

But - and I've argued this in another thread a couple years back - the fact that the engine shuts off after remote start when you open a door is a major bummer. I'm always carrying (at least) one of the kids and have to fumble with 2 strollers, diaper bags, and a ton of other annoying baby stuff. Not getting any more warm air when it's -25 outside and gusting snow (with at least one door and/or the trunk open for a while while putting everything inside) is super annoying, and forces me to put down everything I'm holding, get in, turn the car on manually so everyone inside can get some comfort, then go back outside to resume my lengthy packing ritual. Sounds minor, but it adds up when you have to do it multiple times per day.

 

Sometimes I wonder out loud how I even survived as a kid in the 70s with my parents unable to preheat their car to a cozy temperature in the freezing winter before me and my sister got in, and the cars didn't even have airbags or ABS. But maybe that's why my generation doesn't have food allergies or anxiety disorders. We trained our immune system and learned to deal with unpleasant and potentially dangerous situations.