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Old Feb 19, 2025 | 01:08 PM
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2019 GLE400 faulty thermostat? Air in coolant?

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this may be a common question, but I do not see it on this forum for some reason. Recently I had a low coolant message on my car, I filled the coolant and the message disappeared…but It is taking very long for the car to get up to operating temperature and i am noticing gears are slipping or not shifting like normal …is this air in the coolant or is this a faulty thermostat? I only noticed one time where the gauge dipped to about 70C before coming back to temp while driving …the car runs at temp and doesn’t go above operating…but the car blows warm not hot air through the vents…I know the dealership is going to try and get me for a flush and a thermostat replacement …I want to know if this is the correct approach or if this could just be air in the line? I would appreciate any and all responses

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Old Feb 19, 2025 | 01:52 PM
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It does sound like a thermostat issue.

The 166 forum might have more specific info.
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Old Mar 3, 2025 | 02:13 PM
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Thank you for your reply! so I took it to the dealership and they convinced me to do a diagnostic, instead of the thermostat repair... dealership told me it cant be the thermostat because car isnt registering any codes for a faulty thermostat? ...They said the hoses going in to the radiator is 180 degrees but coming out is 80 degrees...they told me it is a blockage with the silicates rupturing in my coolant system...but that would only explain the cabin temp being wrong correct? would that effect my temp gauge and performance? it still doesnt get up to temp for a while, and if I cut the heat to the cabin it still takes a while to heat up. They want to replace everything, i still think it is a thermostat issue and they're just selling me on parts and labor. What is your guess? Did mercedes really bungle this design that bad they have beads that can rupture in their tanks?

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Old Mar 3, 2025 | 02:40 PM
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Thank you for your reply! so I took it to the dealership and they convinced me to do a diagnostic, instead of the thermostat repair... dealership told me it cant be the thermostat because car isnt registering any codes for a faulty thermostat? ...They said the hoses going in to the radiator is 180 degrees but coming out is 80 degrees...they told me it is a blockage with the silicates rupturing in my coolant system...but that would only explain the cabin temp being wrong correct? would that effect my temp gauge and performance? it still doesnt get up to temp for a while, and if I cut the heat to the cabin it still takes a while to heat up. They want to replace everything, i still think it is a thermostat issue and they're just selling me on parts and labor. What is your guess? Did mercedes really bungle this design that bad they have beads that can rupture in their tanks?
The drop from 180F to 80F through the radiator seems reasonable, once the T-stat allows flow. Where are the "blockages" they mentioned? Inside the block? Why did they surmise that?

I really think you should post this in the W166 forum. There are differences.
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Old Mar 3, 2025 | 02:51 PM
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Thanks, i just posted in the W166. They didnt specify where the blockages are they just surmised that it cant be the thermostat because no codes and temp drop from 180 to 80. They assumed blockage but idk if that would effect performance or fuel economy either. Just drove 5 hours with it, temp gauge fluctuated down around half way then slowy climbed back to temp until i was driving for atleast 35 min, then it stablized just a hair below operating. I am going to do a coolant back flush on friday hopefully that solves my issue

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It's possible to have blockages if incompatible coolant types were used. Did you use the exact same coolant when you refilled the coolant tank?
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Old Mar 3, 2025 | 05:43 PM
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It's possible to have blockages if incompatible coolant types were used. Did you use the exact same coolant when you refilled the coolant tank?
Thats kinda my problem, I didn’t know exactly what was in there so I used something that looked the same , I used zerex G40 50/50 prediluded pink color to top it off, I believe they looked similar but again maybe that’s my issue and a flush will do the trick?
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Thats kinda my problem, I didn’t know exactly what was in there so I used something that looked the same , I used zerex G40 50/50 prediluded pink color to top it off, I believe they looked similar but again maybe that’s my issue and a flush will do the trick?
Maybe. I think that the Zerex G40 is compatible so you should be OK. It is still odd that you had to add coolant. It had to go somewhere.
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Originally Posted by BlueYonder
Maybe. I think that the Zerex G40 is compatible so you should be OK. It is still odd that you had to add coolant. It had to go somewhere.
ok cool I’ll see what the flush does Friday… yeah it is strange, I had to add freeyon to my AC system two years ago too, maybe I am leaking somewhere ..strange because I don’t see any puddles anywhere unless it’s just leaking and evaporating …

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Check the pressure hose at the compressor, the crimp connection weeps (leaks) with age.

When I bought a replacement hose it was the only one available in the country.
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Check the pressure hose at the compressor, the crimp connection weeps (leaks) with age.

When I bought a replacement hose it was the only one available in the country.

sorry for the late reply, finally took it in to the shop. It was a broken radiator stealing my coolant. Will get it fixed but now I have the dreaded P06DA code and I seen threads where I can unplug it so I’ll talk to them about it haha
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Good Afternoon everyone,

this may be a common question, but I do not see it on this forum for some reason. Recently I had a low coolant message on my car, I filled the coolant and the message disappeared…but It is taking very long for the car to get up to operating temperature and i am noticing gears are slipping or not shifting like normal …is this air in the coolant or is this a faulty thermostat? I only noticed one time where the gauge dipped to about 70C before coming back to temp while driving …the car runs at temp and doesn’t go above operating…but the car blows warm not hot air through the vents…I know the dealership is going to try and get me for a flush and a thermostat replacement …I want to know if this is the correct approach or if this could just be air in the line? I would appreciate any and all responses

thank you,
skbrod
Start by inspecting the o rings on the upper and lower radiator hoses and move along inspecting your radiator system for any leaks the low coolant will cause your Mercedes Benz to overheat changing the viscosity of your engines transmission hope this helps you out
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Old Dec 30, 2025 | 11:59 AM
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Start by inspecting the o rings on the upper and lower radiator hoses and move along inspecting your radiator system for any leaks the low coolant will cause your Mercedes Benz to overheat changing the viscosity of your engines transmission hope this helps you out

thanks my dealer showed me the cracked radiator and the spill over of coolant so I definitely need to replace that
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