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is it hard to sync the Mercedes Me app to the car to see what’s what?
What are The most important things to ask the salesman to show me how they work before I drive away?
I had downloaded the Mercedes app (now called Mercedes Benz, not me) for my previous Merc, and my SA changed it over to my new one when I took delivery.
I am going to turn off LANE KEEPING. That was a big bother driving home.
I have to get used to the ride of this vehicle which I am sure I will . My immediate , just sold, car was a VW Touareg which drives like a German sport car dream. Rock solid on the road - confidence inspiring.
The GLE 450 does NOT feel anywhere near that and I guess I was surprised. Rather big and boat-like in handling. Has to be actively driven as it wanders around in the lane. Now, I KNOW I was in ECO mode for the long drive home and I will try SPORT steering mode on the INdividual slection going forward. But I felt like I had to slow down going into road bends at 70 mph in this car, it does not provide rock-solid carve turn feel that Touareg/Cayenne's do.
But this car is PRETTY.
Crap, I almost hate saying that. I looked at Cayenne's too but the dealer's believe them to be gold-plated these days.
I am going to turn off LANE KEEPING. That was a big bother driving home.
I have to get used to the ride of this vehicle which I am sure I will . My immediate , just sold, car was a VW Touareg which drives like a German sport car dream. Rock solid on the road - confidence inspiring.
The GLE 450 does NOT feel anywhere near that and I guess I was surprised. Rather big and boat-like in handling. Has to be actively driven as it wanders around in the lane. Now, I KNOW I was in ECO mode for the long drive home and I will try SPORT steering mode on the INdividual slection going forward. But I felt like I had to slow down going into road bends at 70 mph in this car, it does not provide rock-solid carve turn feel that Touareg/Cayenne's do.
But this car is PRETTY.
Crap, I almost hate saying that. I looked at Cayenne's too but the dealer's believe them to be gold-plated these days.
Most users will agree that Lane Keep Assist, not to be confused with Active Steering Assist, is more trouble than it's worth. Same for Speed Limit Adoption, if it's not picking up the wrong sign it's trying to immediately accelerate or decelerate to the new sign regardless of what traffic around you is doing.
I can't say as our GLS has e-abc and feels very connected to the road in sport mode/curve mode but I've heard that Benz focuses more on ride comfort in the GLS/GLE than other manufacturers leading to a more disconnected feel. That said, I've towed a boat with our 2011 ML at 70+ and never felt unstable on the interstates so it might be worth asking your local service department about if you truly think it feels off.
]Most users will agree that Lane Keep Assist, not to be confused with Active Steering Assist, is more trouble than it's worth. Same for Speed Limit Adoption, if it's not picking up the wrong sign it's trying to immediately accelerate or decelerate to the new sign regardless of what traffic around you is doing.
I can't say as our GLS has e-abc and feels very connected to the road in sport mode/curve mode but I've heard that Benz focuses more on ride comfort in the GLS/GLE than other manufacturers leading to a more disconnected feel. That said, I've towed a boat with our 2011 ML at 70+ and never felt unstable on the interstates so it might be worth asking your local service department about if you truly think it feels off.
I also towed a 27' RV with a 164 GLE, and a 166, both Diesels. The 2011 164 was the better of the two and I'd say "extremely capable." Didn't tow with this 167 car since the RV is gone now.
The 164 was fun to drive, but the 166 lost it's "fun" characteristic and went all Luxury, which caused me to trade for a Cayenne (Diesel).
The 167 was a significantly better chassis than the 166, but the suspension went All Floaty with either Steel or Air suspension. Steel had less float and was my second choice behind AMG Ride Control ARC. I had an E-ABC which was better but only in Sport, but it had many flaws and was bought back. Drove a steel-sprung GLE350 loaner for 1,200 miles, 30 days, while they worked on the E-ABC car.
(My Wife and my rankings for suspensions in 2021 were: 1. AMG ARC, 2. E-ABC, 3. Steel, 3. Air (Tie at #3 - depended on surfaces).
If I hadn't found and experienced the Dynamic Plus Package with AMG Ride Control, which improves ride quality AND handling (better than a Cayenne with PDCC, a similar active suspension, on my 20 mile test drive circuit), I'd be in a different brand altogether.
The qualities I look for are Supple, Responsive, Fun. I occasionally track my GLE.
Early owners roundly chastised the 166 for Floaty, Boatlike suspension. Sport mode was necessary.
I haven't driven a 166 newer than my 2021 AMG53, so I can't speak for newer models.
I definitely agree about Lane Keeping and Speed Limit settings.
Be sure to find out all the options the GLE 450 has. Will likely impact how much you like the vehicle and how much it’s worth. For me , the air suspension was a must.
Be sure to find out all the options the GLE 450 has. Will likely impact how much you like the vehicle and how much it’s worth. For me , the air suspension was a must.
I have the Air suspension (Double wishbones with Air springs) in my E450 All-Terrain Wagon (4600 lbs). And the standard Double-wishbones with the steel springs and "selective damping" in my GLE450 (4950 lbs).
I find absolutely no difference between the two, in terms of overall ride quality. Of course the Air suspension has the ability to load-level, and also raise/lower the car, but if that is not a priority for you, the standard suspension performs just fine, ride-quality wise, based on my personal experience.
The GLE 450 does NOT feel anywhere near that and I guess I was surprised. Rather big and boat-like in handling. Has to be actively driven as it wanders around in the lane. Now, I KNOW I was in ECO mode for the long drive home and I will try SPORT steering mode on the INdividual slection going forward. But I felt like I had to slow down going into road bends at 70 mph in this car, it does not provide rock-solid carve turn feel that Touareg/Cayenne's do.
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I agree that the Cayenne and the BMW X5, are more dynamic than the GLE, handling wise. But in your case, I suspect you need to get more seat time in the car, to get used to the handling characteristics of the GLE. Give it a week.
And once you do so, you should be able to take curves at far more than the legal speed limit, if you so desire. I drive extensively through extremely twisty mountain roads, and the car can carry some shockingly high speeds through tight curves, without losing composure. And of course your tires (and tire pressures) are a critical factor in how planted the car feels, in the twisties.
@Roweraay. You've proven to be absolutely correct. I have now had the chance to take two extended drives and I'm much more comfortable with the ride and feel than my initial comments.
I had a driving companion whose first comments driving were similar to my initial comments but came to love the ride after several hours.
Just returned from a long journey 'roadtrip' to the Martin Guitar Factory in Pennsylvania. Love that Distronic.
I had problems with CARPLAY flaking connection and localized it to the Carplay USB-C plug in the front of the console. It's likely worn out. I wonder if that's covered under the warranty?
@Roweraay. You've proven to be absolutely correct. I have now had the chance to take two extended drives and I'm much more comfortable with the ride and feel than my initial comments.
I had a driving companion whose first comments driving were similar to my initial comments but came to love the ride after several hours.
Just returned from a long journey 'roadtrip' to the Martin Guitar Factory in Pennsylvania. Love that Distronic.
I had problems with CARPLAY flaking connection and localized it to the Carplay USB-C plug in the front of the console. It's likely worn out. I wonder if that's covered under the warranty?
A GLE350 AMG doesn't really exist. A GLE 63 or GLE 53 are the actual models. On a GLE350, you might be getting a trim option.
Make sure you aren't paying AMG prices.
He probably means and GLE350 with the AMG night package.
I was going to suggest that. Just stay on top of maintenance and drive it with respect and you do fine. remember this is a 4 cylinder turbo moving a heavy chassis. and the newer engines operate at higher temps then the previous variants.
The newer Engineering of the Mercedes engine 2019 to present operate at a higher temperature then the previous engine models that were iron blocks design. Compare the normal oil temps alone.
When I was selling cars, a driver who would refuse to cooperate with me might terrify me. I might have done the same.
I had a 911 cash buyer who took some ill-advised routes, but he added a frightening inability to control the car. But then, "cash buyer," especially a backpack full of bills, implied cocaine.
Salespeople want to sell the car, but they also want to survive the experience.
When I was looking for the 450e, the salesman gave me the FOB and said go ahead. We were on our own. Of course a few years before, we bought a car from him. Ended up not buying the 450e from him. We ended up buying a CPO car, out of state.
The newer Engineering of the Mercedes engine 2019 to present operate at a higher temperature then the previous engine models that were iron blocks design. Compare the normal oil temps alone.
That's true, they're designed to operate at a higher temperature. The aluminum blocks dissipate heat more quickly but also come up to operating temperature more quickly helping emissions controls. Newer oils are also designed to operate at higher temperatures.
I don't consider it an issue.
Here's a picture showing My oil temperature after a few laps at the track. 214F - certainly not excessive.
Note the tire temperatures, though!
The newer Engineering of the Mercedes engine 2019 to present operate at a higher temperature then the previous engine models that were iron blocks design. Compare the normal oil temps alone.
Originally Posted by mikapen
That's true, they're designed to operate at a higher temperature. The aluminum blocks dissipate heat more quickly but also come up to operating temperature more quickly helping emissions controls. Newer oils are also designed to operate at higher temperatures.
I don't consider it an issue.
Here's a picture showing My oil temperature after a few laps at the track. 214F - certainly not excessive.
Note the tire temperatures, though!
I guess I'm not seeing the higher temperatures. Even our W164 has a coolant <-> oil heat exchanger. I would expect the oil to be very close to the coolant temp in most cases. Our GLS sits right around the 212 mark as well even when towing. That said, modern oils don't have any issues with ~212 degrees either. Given that the aluminum blocks wick away heat much faster than the older iron blocks I would expect things to be overall cooler or at least more thermally stable but then again I'm just an IT guy that ponders engineering things as a hobby and not a thermodynamics engineer.
2024 BMW X5, 2020 GLE 350, Gone 2-2016 GLC 300s, 2016 C-300, and Gone 2012 E350 Coupe
Get extended warranty or move on. My 2020 GLE is in the shop now, less than 18000 miles. Cylinder #2, 3 days labor, $10K, fortunately I have an extended warranty.
I guess I'm not seeing the higher temperatures. Even our W164 has a coolant <-> oil heat exchanger. I would expect the oil to be very close to the coolant temp in most cases. Our GLS sits right around the 212 mark as well even when towing. That said, modern oils don't have any issues with ~212 degrees either. Given that the aluminum blocks wick away heat much faster than the older iron blocks I would expect things to be overall cooler or at least more thermally stable but then again I'm just an IT guy that ponders engineering things as a hobby and not a thermodynamics engineer.
That's my point. My pic above was after some serious thrashing at the track, but neither the engine oil or transmission oil reached other than normal temperatures.
The aluminum block also comes to operating temps quicker, which means all components are at their engineered tolerances, which reduces wear.
Aluminum blocks are good, not bad.
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