Engine has seized. Next steps advice.

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Mar 23, 2025 | 11:14 PM
  #1  
The history is here https://mbworld.org/forums/gle-class...e-failure.html

My 2020 GLE250 57K miles engine has seized. It needs a new engine. Some questions
  1. Prior to the failure, it was worth ~33K. Dealer estimate is 28K. Is it worth repairing then?
  2. If I had to sell it, how much would it go for and what are the places that buy this?
  3. Dealer is quoting 28K. They said they could bring it down to 26K. Its still high, will be asking for a goodwill offer from MB to further reduce the cost. Will it work?
  4. Dealer is using a long block engine (12.7K). It comes with 2y / unlimited warranty. How does that compare to a new and used engine? Which of the 3 option is better?
  5. To replace the long block engine, labor cost is 11K. Its 33h labor. Does it take that much?
Thanks.
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Mar 24, 2025 | 04:07 AM
  #2  
only you can say is it worth it or not for your financial situation

Big question is, what can you get for it with broken engine.

And if you replace engine what is it worth?

Used engines come with USED issues and no warranty so could be costly.

Have you gotten quotes from INDY mechanics?
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Mar 24, 2025 | 08:48 AM
  #3  
Quote: The history is here https://mbworld.org/forums/gle-class...e-failure.html

My 2020 GLE250 57K miles engine has seized. It needs a new engine. Some questions
  1. Prior to the failure, it was worth ~33K. Dealer estimate is 28K. Is it worth repairing then?
  2. If I had to sell it, how much would it go for and what are the places that buy this?
  3. Dealer is quoting 28K. They said they could bring it down to 26K. Its still high, will be asking for a goodwill offer from MB to further reduce the cost. Will it work?
  4. Dealer is using a long block engine (12.7K). It comes with 2y / unlimited warranty. How does that compare to a new and used engine? Which of the 3 option is better?
  5. To replace the long block engine, labor cost is 11K. Its 33h labor. Does it take that much?
Thanks.
You're doing the wrong calculations.
What is the vehicle worth as it sits?
What kind of vehicle can you purchase for that price + the cost to replace the engine?
Would that vehicle be better or worse than yours with a replacement engine?
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Mar 24, 2025 | 10:27 AM
  #4  
Is that the diesel engine? You don't say where you are, but I don't think that car was ever sold in the US. It is a popular commercial engine. The recommendation to take it to a non-Mercedes workshop is a good one. Depending on the damage, they might be able to rebuild the motor rather than replacing it with a new one. It is worth getting an estimate. Did the dealership tell you the cause of the failure?
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Mar 24, 2025 | 11:06 AM
  #5  
This would have been easier to follow had you continued the original thread. That one seems to lead that the shop screwed up, while this thread leans toward it's on you to replace the motor. Two very different situations.
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Mar 25, 2025 | 07:13 AM
  #6  
M-B has no responsibility for this failure. Why would you expect them to make a goodwill offer?
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Mar 25, 2025 | 09:47 AM
  #7  
Quote: M-B has no responsibility for this failure. Why would you expect them to make a goodwill offer?
That motor should be good for far more mileage than the owner got out of it. Nothing wrong with asking for assistance from Mercedes. All they can do is say no.
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Mar 25, 2025 | 10:25 AM
  #8  
Today the car in its current condition is worth zero, or scrap value. You as the consumer have no negotiating power. A dealer will buy your car for pennies, put $10k into it and sell it for $33k. Those economics are not available to you.

What do you want?

1. A used MB with a new engine for $28k?
2. Another less expensive car for $28k?
3. A new MB or similar for more than $28k?

An indy shop would do this job for 30%-40% less than the dealer. This is another option.
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Mar 25, 2025 | 01:32 PM
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Quote: Today the car in its current condition is worth zero, or scrap value.
He can part it out the rest of it and make something back. Some of the parts go for thousands even used. I bet if it was parted out for everything except the engine, he could get a pretty penny from it. It's a hassle and a pain, but it's an option.

Also, do we really need two threads discussing the same issue?
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Mar 25, 2025 | 09:53 PM
  #10  
Let's explore parting it out. How much time and effort, space and tools are needed for that? And what is the expected financial return?

Is @arouncoumar willing and able to embark on that project?

What about transportation during the parting-it-out project?
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Mar 25, 2025 | 10:02 PM
  #11  
Quote: Let's explore parting it out. How much time and effort, space and tools are needed for that? And what is the expected financial return?

Is @arouncoumar willing and able to embark on that project?

What about transportation during the parting-it-out project?
I'd get a bid from Coparts and let them part it out.

You'd also have a definitive determination of the loss caused by the Indy.

You need a lot of storage to embark on parting something out. I ended up buying an old box truck to store my "parts room."
And I ended up selling the remainder to a salvage yard anyway.
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