Debating GLE Purchase -- Few Questions
#26
Senior Member
Now it makes sense. I don't usually see a lot of MBs with halogent lights at night. The ones that do, usually drive very slow.
This is what I came up with, to remember the different Classes of MB Sh@t :
A class - Almost Sh@t
B class - Basic Sh@t
C class - Complete Sh@t
E class - Expensive Sh@t
S class - Super Sh@t
D-Deplorable, can be added to any of the above Sh@t
QUOTE=baobay;6945623]LOL ... I should say I drive a GLSh@t 450 with SH@T lights...only drivable during the day...at night you drive at your own risk...[/QUOTE]
This is what I came up with, to remember the different Classes of MB Sh@t :
A class - Almost Sh@t
B class - Basic Sh@t
C class - Complete Sh@t
E class - Expensive Sh@t
S class - Super Sh@t
D-Deplorable, can be added to any of the above Sh@t
QUOTE=baobay;6945623]LOL ... I should say I drive a GLSh@t 450 with SH@T lights...only drivable during the day...at night you drive at your own risk...[/QUOTE]
#27
Senior Member
It actually makes for a good day-time vehicle.
QUOTE=baobay;6945627]Went on my dealer's website and they have a GLS 450 MSRP little over $83k...without lighting package....I wonder which poor sap they'll sell it to....for $83k you get the same lights on a 1977 Chevy....actually the lights on the Chevy are most likely better.[/QUOTE]
QUOTE=baobay;6945627]Went on my dealer's website and they have a GLS 450 MSRP little over $83k...without lighting package....I wonder which poor sap they'll sell it to....for $83k you get the same lights on a 1977 Chevy....actually the lights on the Chevy are most likely better.[/QUOTE]
#28
Senior Member
Not a bad daytime vehicle at all...maybe I should spend another $80k on another one with the lighting package for nighttime driving. I did some research and there are no luxury suv's that have halogen lights as standard equipment
#33
LED is standard in NZ
I'm from NZ. It's funny to read this post cuz our GLEs have all necessary options as standard, including the intelligent LED headlight, all security and high tech features are standard too. Audi and BMW here though doesn't. i can't imagine a GLE with yellow headlights omg.
#34
Super Member
It is pretty ridiculous how mb packages the cars here in the US, especially the GLE. Whoever makes that call for the US market should be fired immediately.
I'm from NZ. It's funny to read this post cuz our GLEs have all necessary options as standard, including the intelligent LED headlight, all security and high tech features are standard too. Audi and BMW here though doesn't. i can't imagine a GLE with yellow headlights omg.
#35
Senior Member
That's great. I'm sure you are paying a whole lot more For the vehicle. I know for a fact that in CDN the same vehicle as in the US is $10K and up more. My neighbour bought a Subaru from the US and brought it to CDN and saved over $30K. Different countries have different options. I know in CDN they add different and or more option and inflate the price quite a bit. I noticed MB USA has basic options and the price appeals to many. But as soon as you walk in the dealer and want inteligent adaptive lights, Navigation the price goes up by $7K. That's how we ended up with a $70K sh@t vehicle. MB won't Package the back up camer we still had to pay $600 in addition. The cheapest Car out there has a standard back up camera but not MB. For me I've come to terms with the fact that MB is nothbworth it. I'm oknoaying a lot but I expect a lot too. I want a quality reliability and o issues like my Camry and Civic. MB options defy logic. Driving around town with a luxury vehicle with yellow lights. Oh don't forget that we paid $70 after a $6K discount. I've come to terms that Germany and MB have let me and us down. Growing up in EU owing a BMW or MB was a dream. Things have changed since then. Japan and Korea have come out strong and kept their promises to quality and reliability.
The Germans have not kept up and are slipping
it really bugs me that I have a luxury brand and have problems and they won't go away because the dealer can't find anything. I can't imagine the headaches we are going to have after 4 years. I'm not an engineer but can see that this vehicle is not built well the quality and attention tondetail are just not there. I have to connvice my wife to get off this crazy train and look for Alternatives
QUOTE=flyinduck;6948734]I'm from NZ. It's funny to read this post cuz our GLEs have all necessary options as standard, including the intelligent LED headlight, all security and high tech features are standard too. Audi and BMW here though doesn't. i can't imagine a GLE with yellow headlights omg.[/QUOTE]
The Germans have not kept up and are slipping
it really bugs me that I have a luxury brand and have problems and they won't go away because the dealer can't find anything. I can't imagine the headaches we are going to have after 4 years. I'm not an engineer but can see that this vehicle is not built well the quality and attention tondetail are just not there. I have to connvice my wife to get off this crazy train and look for Alternatives
QUOTE=flyinduck;6948734]I'm from NZ. It's funny to read this post cuz our GLEs have all necessary options as standard, including the intelligent LED headlight, all security and high tech features are standard too. Audi and BMW here though doesn't. i can't imagine a GLE with yellow headlights omg.[/QUOTE]
Last edited by Roni07; 10-22-2016 at 11:17 AM.
#36
Senior Member
Yes I'm sure in NZ they load the vehicle with all the options and charge a premium for it. All these options are not free!!!
they won't sell many MBs in the US if they all came loaded with all
the features. When you buy a "luxury" vehicle you'd expect it comes with decent standard lights. I paid $82k For my GLS 450 and the lights are a FREAKING JOKE!
they won't sell many MBs in the US if they all came loaded with all
the features. When you buy a "luxury" vehicle you'd expect it comes with decent standard lights. I paid $82k For my GLS 450 and the lights are a FREAKING JOKE!
#37
That been said though, all cars in NZ cost more, not because all cars here are loaded with all options cuz most of them aren't, but due to a fact we are a small market and GST and sh*t. X5 and Q7 are both on par on pricing and a few grand more expensive than a GLE and their LED light packages and safety, driving assist packages are not at all standard options. That's why we chose GLE. The equivalent X5 or Q7 with same options added on top would cost around 15 grand more. US MB should learn from NZ, at least at rid of that halogen light lmao.
Yes I'm sure in NZ they load the vehicle with all the options and charge a premium for it. All these options are not free!!!
they won't sell many MBs in the US if they all came loaded with all
the features. When you buy a "luxury" vehicle you'd expect it comes with decent standard lights. I paid $82k For my GLS 450 and the lights are a FREAKING JOKE!
they won't sell many MBs in the US if they all came loaded with all
the features. When you buy a "luxury" vehicle you'd expect it comes with decent standard lights. I paid $82k For my GLS 450 and the lights are a FREAKING JOKE!
Last edited by flyinduck; 10-22-2016 at 07:56 PM.
#38
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2016 GLC 300, 2016 GLE 350
I bet they have night vision goggles in the glove box!
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I just ordered the Morimoto HID kit for my GLE350. Back to BMW when I replace my BMW 5 series next year. I was thinking I would get a new E class. Nope. Not after having to do a DIY hack to a 65k new SUV. I am pissed.
Ken
#39
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I bet they have night vision goggles in the glove box! ![rolf](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/rofl.gif)
I just ordered the Morimoto HID kit for my GLE350. Back to BMW when I replace my BMW 5 series next year. I was thinking I would get a new E class. Nope. Not after having to do a DIY hack to a 65k new SUV. I am pissed.
Ken
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I just ordered the Morimoto HID kit for my GLE350. Back to BMW when I replace my BMW 5 series next year. I was thinking I would get a new E class. Nope. Not after having to do a DIY hack to a 65k new SUV. I am pissed.
Ken
#40
Super Member
Multibeam LED Headlights
I have no experience with the MB Halogen headlights, but these multibeam LED headlights sound pretty impressive. Can anyone who has these comment?
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#41
I did a little comparison.
GLE350 4matic v6 with P3+vent seat, 3 zone climate, harmon kardon, parking assist with parking pilot= 74,285
Audi Q7 Prestige with supercharged v6 + driver assist+cold weather+black optic package+ night vision assist: 71,500.
IMO, If i could choose again, I would go with the q7 hands down. The q5 hasn't been refreshed yet. You're getting a bigger and better vehicle with way more features for 3k less.
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#44
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There is no workaround but someone over at the ML forum did it by adding some sort of a switch but that requires some wire splicing. I am sure the next gen GLE will allow you to switch it off since the new 2017 e-class finally has that option that you can switch off as part of the setting.
#45
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I don't even have my GLE yet and I'm annoyed with this feature already. Actually, in concept I think it's a good idea. There are some people who spend prolonged periods of time in stop and go traffic. I'm not one of them. The problem is simple. What MB should have done is designed it to be "off" by default. That way you could turn it on whenever you choose. To have it on by default and be forced to turn it off is just plain stupid. I don't know what they were thinking. ![crazy](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/crazy.gif)
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#46
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I don't know what they were thinking.
#47
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#48
I don't even have my GLE yet and I'm annoyed with this feature already. Actually, in concept I think it's a good idea. There are some people who spend prolonged periods of time in stop and go traffic. I'm not one of them. The problem is simple. What MB should have done is designed it to be "off" by default. That way you could turn it on whenever you choose. To have it on by default and be forced to turn it off is just plain stupid. I don't know what they were thinking. ![crazy](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/crazy.gif)
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Now my wife's new Volvo XC60 has the eco start stop, and I hate it. The startup is rough, and takes a second to kick in. It goes off at a stop, so if you stop to wait for someone to pull out of a parking space, it turns the engine off. Then if you try and turn the wheel, the power steering won't work because it's not electric, it's powered by the engine. It is a truly terrible implementation. I turn off that eco switch almost every time I drive her car. (but other than that is is a GREAT car)
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2020 GLE450 4Matic AMG-Line
I have no complaints about the Start Stop feature. It is pretty quick and seamless, and is very useful on my commute, so I fail to see where the problem is, even in a parking lot.
#50
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Maybe I'm getting all worked up over nothing. I guess I'll have to actually use it for a while before I see if it's a nuisance or not. I did see it in action "once", during my test drive. I must admit, it was seamless. No jerkiness. No hesitation. There's just something about starting and stopping the engine that often that scares me. I read somewhere that it has an extra heavy duty starter, designed to withstand the constant use. I hope that's correct.