GLE Class (W166) Produced 2015-2019

Does this look like frame damage?

Old Aug 20, 2023 | 05:57 PM
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Does this look like frame damage?

My car was stolen today and they crashed it. Let me know if you think this will get totaled or am I going to have to live with a car that has had severe damage that I’ll never be able to sell. I just put new tires and brakes on her.





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Old Aug 20, 2023 | 08:59 PM
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There is no frame on W166.
The damages on your car looks ugly because of it extend, but I don't seen penetration deep enough to suspect uniframe deformation.
Still takes pro to determinate such issues.
Good luck with your claim.
If you like the car and find no frame damage, you can buy it back from insurance if they total it.
To my estimate you need hood, front bumper, grill and headlights.
Having some time and patience, you can find those things cheap on ebay, or local junkyards.
I did such thing with our W163 years ago. The car after repair still lived in the family for additional 8 years and sold at 13 years of age, the record of total damage was no longer crucial.

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Old Aug 20, 2023 | 10:18 PM
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Hard to say. Maybe no frame damage, but can't say for certain. Door gap and a-pillar look OK. But if the front of the main longitudinal rails are bent from the bumper impact, the adjuster could total it. Insurance company will know.
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Old Aug 21, 2023 | 02:59 AM
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Make sure you file a diminished value claim
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Old Aug 21, 2023 | 10:29 AM
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Agreed door gap and A pillar look "good", so hood and bumper/fenders absorbed as designed.

Gather they got hold of the key to steal it, or did they somehow "clone" the key?
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Old Aug 21, 2023 | 10:50 AM
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Unlikely, but it will still get totaled regardless.

When they give you your first offer ($) dispute it, and then when they offer more take it if it is reasonable.
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Old Aug 21, 2023 | 07:07 PM
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As others have written, the vehicle has unibody construction. Provided that the structural integrity of the unibody core has not been compromised, and the the airbags did not deploy, I don't think the insurance carrier would total this vehicle. Be certain to insist on new factory parts for all replacements.
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Old Aug 23, 2023 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by psnevets
As others have written, the vehicle has unibody construction. Provided that the structural integrity of the unibody core has not been compromised, and the the airbags did not deploy, I don't think the insurance carrier would total this vehicle. Be certain to insist on new factory parts for all replacements.

I used the frame as an old school term. I understand they are unibody construction. 😀
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May I ask estimated book value for the car?

W/o even looking for price parts, repair quote no less than 20K at typical car collision shops for insurance companies. Assuming parts, paint and basic labor, no repairs to anything bent.

Fingers crossed it is not totalled.
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Old Aug 24, 2023 | 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by juanmor40
May I ask estimated book value for the car?

W/o even looking for price parts, repair quote no less than 20K at typical car collision shops for insurance companies. Assuming parts, paint and basic labor, no repairs to anything bent.

Fingers crossed it is not totalled.
as bad as the damage is, i do want it totaled. It will never be the same IMO.
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Old Aug 24, 2023 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Scott Minor
as bad as the damage is, i do want it totaled. It will never be the same IMO.
From the outside the damage is minimal, and as @kajtek1 said it is ugly to the unfamiliar with these vehicles. My concern, as well as some have said earlier, is anything major that is welded is bent. Anything that is bolted can be replaced by new parts. But besides bent parts, the next concern is if anything electrical got shorted (cut wires) and there is hidden electrical damage. A good scan will show most if not all the issues.

Then, it is up to the finishing quality of who is taking it apart and putting it together. Barring bents and electrical shorts, a good collision shop will leave it as good as new to the eye and driving. The CarFax, unfortunately, will have the record and then we know the rest of the story.
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Old Aug 24, 2023 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by juanmor40
From the outside the damage is minimal, and as @kajtek1 said it is ugly to the unfamiliar with these vehicles. My concern, as well as some have said earlier, is anything major that is welded is bent. Anything that is bolted can be replaced by new parts. But besides bent parts, the next concern is if anything electrical got shorted (cut wires) and there is hidden electrical damage. A good scan will show most if not all the issues.

Then, it is up to the finishing quality of who is taking it apart and putting it together. Barring bents and electrical shorts, a good collision shop will leave it as good as new to the eye and driving. The CarFax, unfortunately, will have the record and then we know the rest of the story.
the bumper support that sits just in front of the radiator was bent in well enough that it broke the brackets on the radiator. I am guessing that to bend it the front clips had to have been bent. I wish I had a picture of it. The car they t-boned was doing about 45 and was spun around. Im surprised the air bigs didn’t deploy.
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Old Aug 24, 2023 | 10:25 AM
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An image showing the frame rail. Imagine you take the bumper, and right fender off the body, you will then see this.

The support you mentioned goes from the left to right rail shown here, and you can see where is bolted. That is what I meant by new parts just bolted back.

Others here are concerned the frame rail itself may have bent, and that is a very valid concern since it must be "bent back" to the correct position. From the outside, I do not see it needs a new frame rail, but is it bent? Nearly impossible to tell w/o taking apart and measuring/comparing to specifications.

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Old Aug 24, 2023 | 10:27 AM
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That is being done today. Cross your fingers they total it. I’m afraid it would never be right again.
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Or, if totaled but without a salvage title, buy it back, repair it and sell at your convenience

Done that on a Toyota, it worked for me.

A forum member in the UK similar situation, bought it back and it is enjoying it again
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