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Old Mar 18, 2025 | 09:26 AM
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GLE sags a little

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I own a 2017 GLE43 and since 2 months ago I've realised it sags a little. Is does not go down to the floor but looks lower definitely. I¨ve checked the air bags but the look good, My mechanic used Xentry and it says there is a leak somewhere between the compressor and the valve block. He found a very tiny leak on the valve block, he tightened the air hose and it was OK, but the system contoinues to say there is a leak. He tried to calibrate the suspension using Xentry but it is still kind of low. Sometimes there is a gap difference (half an inch) but some others less than that. The car drives good and feels good. Any ideas? Should I continue driving?

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You have a leak. Your mechanic and you agree with this

Options:
1. Fix the leak and continue owning the car
2. Fix the leak and sell the car
3. Don’t fix the leak, keep driving and see what happens
4. Don’t fix the leak and sell the car

Which option do you want?
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Old Mar 18, 2025 | 12:19 PM
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Typical abc leaks, happens with abc : (
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Old Mar 18, 2025 | 01:08 PM
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Typical abc leaks, happens with abc : (
I think it is not ABC
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Old Mar 18, 2025 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Marco R
I think it is not ABC
I guess the confusion lies in my poor choice of words, MB uses ABC to indicate Active Body Control but I meant Air Body Control, other vehicles call it Airmatic, it is a slightly different system.
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Old Mar 18, 2025 | 01:28 PM
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Old Mar 18, 2025 | 01:44 PM
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Got it. Does it look low according to the pics in your opinion?
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Old Mar 18, 2025 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
I guess the confusion lies in my poor choice of words, MB uses ABC to indicate Active Body Control but I meant Air Body Control, other vehicles call it Airmatic, it is a slightly different system.
Massively different system. One is insanely expensive to own while the other is not too bad. ABC uses a hydraulic pump, lines, dampeners, control blocks in front and back, lines in, lines out, and electronics to make it work. Airmatic is relatively inexpensive and reliable. Just call it Airmatic and not ABC suspension. Some Airmatic cars do have a type of active body control like on my GL63 but it is not an ABC suspension - thank goodness. Loved my Airmatic cars and loathed ABC. The only thing it did well is prevent body roll around curves and heavy braking. That's it, really. MB ditched the system as it was overly problematic.
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Old Mar 18, 2025 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by BlownV8
Massively different system. One is insanely expensive to own while the other is not too bad. ABC uses a hydraulic pump, lines, dampeners, control blocks in front and back, lines in, lines out, and electronics to make it work. Airmatic is relatively inexpensive and reliable. Just call it Airmatic and not ABC suspension. Some Airmatic cars do have a type of active body control like on my GL63 but it is not an ABC suspension - thank goodness. Loved my Airmatic cars and loathed ABC. The only thing it did well is prevent body roll around curves and heavy braking. That's it, really. MB ditched the system as it was overly problematic.
Sorry, just to clarify, if we are talking about the same thing, I said Air Body Control and Airmatic is similar, are you saying they are not? I am not at all talking about Active Body Control or E-Active Body Control either.
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
Sorry, just to clarify, if we are talking about the same thing, I said Air Body Control and Airmatic is similar, are you saying they are not? I am not at all talking about Active Body Control or E-Active Body Control either.

Please point to an example of a model with Air Body Control and one with Airmatic. Please comment on the differences between them.
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Originally Posted by chassis
Please point to an example of a model with Air Body Control and one with Airmatic. Please comment on the differences between them.
I am only talking about the name change, as for the actual differences. https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w...-airmatic.html
Per forum member konigstiger: "Improved Air Body Control simply replaces previous Airmatic (still code 489)"
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Old Mar 19, 2025 | 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by chassis
You have a leak. Your mechanic and you agree with this

Options:
1. Fix the leak and continue owning the car
2. Fix the leak and sell the car
3. Don’t fix the leak, keep driving and see what happens
4. Don’t fix the leak and sell the car

Which option do you want?
1. I tried but the mechanic could not find the leak
2. I´m selling it
3. My reality now
4. My target
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Old Mar 19, 2025 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Marco R
1. I tried but the mechanic could not find the leak
2. I´m selling it
3. My reality now
4. My target
What is the replacement?
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Old Mar 19, 2025 | 07:56 AM
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What is the replacement?
Replacement?
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Sorry for the confusion, Replacement as in vehicle.
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Old Mar 19, 2025 | 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Marco R
Replacement?
Are you shopping for a replacement, if so, what do you have in mind?
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Old Mar 19, 2025 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
Are you shopping for a replacement, if so, what do you have in mind?
Not really.. I want to enjoy my GLE for a longer period of time, unfortunately it is experiencing this issue with the suspension. I think it's a minor thing, otherwise I won't be able to even drive it. In this moment I can't afford an expensive reapair, so I hope nothing else goes wrong with it.

PS: I posted some pics, is it too low?
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Old Mar 19, 2025 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Marco R
Not really.. I want to enjoy my GLE for a longer period of time, unfortunately it is experiencing this issue with the suspension. I think it's a minor thing, otherwise I won't be able to even drive it. In this moment I can't afford an expensive reapair, so I hope nothing else goes wrong with it.

PS: I posted some pics, is it too low?
Looks a bit low, I mean since you have no intention to repair it and the goal is actually selling it, might not be a bad idea to think of the bright side... people actually want to lower the vehicle by intention for a sportier look, now you get that look for free!
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Looks a bit low, I mean since you have no intention to repair it and the goal is actually selling it, might not be a bad idea to think of the bright side... people actually want to lower the vehicle by intention for a sportier look, now you get that look for free!
LOL .. good point
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Originally Posted by Marco R
LOL .. good point
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