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Include any dealer options and / or warranty packages, and talk "out the door" numbers.
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I may be able to get lower markup since I've been servicing my ML430 with them since 2000

I was watching a video on YouTube of a walk-around for a GLE 53 Coupe (because I wanted to see what Diamond White looked like) that a dealership posted. The car was listed for $118,475, exactly $20,000 over an identical configuration on the website with the same listed options. Blows my mind.
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I was watching a video on YouTube of a walk-around for a GLE 53 Coupe (because I wanted to see what Diamond White looked like) that a dealership posted. The car was listed for $118,475, exactly $20,000 over an identical configuration on the website with the same listed options. Blows my mind.
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The market IS softening and I have talked to several in high end markets stated so. Clearly some stealers don’t get it and will be happy to bend them over as usual with car stealers. The chips and supply chain issues are largely abated yet they want to use it as an excuse. Tell me how I know being a Fortune 500 c-level leader…
Last edited by Vyper340vb; Sep 23, 2022 at 11:44 PM.




The market IS softening and I have talked to several in high end markets stated so. Clearly some stealers don’t get it and will be happy to bend them over as usual with car stealers. The chips and supply chain issues are largely abated yet they want to use it as an excuse. Tell me how I know being a Fortune 500 c-level leader…
You seem not to need or want a car right now, so you can win your contests. The situation changes when people don't have that luxury and actually need a car. They need to negotiate, not throw out numbers to see if one sticks.
Supply chains are deteriorating, not improving. Many smart people think the suppliers' pain is just beginning. Smaller companies with growing pressures.
See Ford's problems with incomplete autos and the concern that this will worsen for 12 - 24 more months. Even with a Soft Landing to this "almost a Recession."
It's not a good time to buy a car right now, but calling the Top of the Demand vs. Supply is difficult.
I'm going to need a car in December, so I'll be negotiating instead of waiting for things to change.
I've never gotten my first offer, but I've always gotten the "better than expected" deal.
BTW I don't bother with the "walk out of the showroom" tactic. I sit there, taking up space, until they come back and start negotiating. Even after the salesperson and floor manager have initially decided to lose their opportunity to sell me a car. Sometimes it takes a different arrow from your quiver.
Last edited by mikapen; Sep 24, 2022 at 01:03 PM.
I have the means, perhaps, that can and will bend the methods that unscrupulous dealers are using despite the actual softening market. Those that chose to overpay from the established MSRP only feed the animal and you clearly support it. The “game” as you put it is I have it and they want it which is exactly how it was designed. It’s only a game for me to get the best deal I feel is appropriate. Your opinion in the matter is of NO value. Proof… step up from a 53 to a 63 and then you MIGHT have a point here. Barring that, I suggest you stay in your swim lane. Just a suggestion…
Last edited by Vyper340vb; Sep 25, 2022 at 04:55 PM.




I have the means unlike you, perhaps, that can and will bend the methods that unscrupulous dealers are using despite the actual softening market. Those that chose to overpay from the established MSRP only feed the animal and you clearly support it. The “game” as you put it is I have it and they want it which is exactly how it was designed. It’s only a game for me to get the best deal I feel is appropriate. Your opinion in the matter is of NO value. Proof… step up from a 53 to a 63 and then you MIGHT have a point here. Barring that, I suggest you stay in your swim lane. Just a suggestion…




The market IS softening and I have talked to several in high end markets stated so. Clearly some stealers don’t get it and will be happy to bend them over as usual with car stealers. The chips and supply chain issues are largely abated yet they want to use it as an excuse. Tell me how I know being a Fortune 500 c-level leader…
This is the same nonsense going on with Urus right now with these clowns wanting to charge 30-50k above MSRP with the refresh and performante about to hit the streets and refusing to give you allocation until you buy a current model/have a current Urus.
It's all about relationships and finding an ethical dealership and building a relationship with them that honor repeat customers. Bought the 53 from my dealer on condition they'd give me first 2023 allocation for a 63s (passed on a 2022 even though they called me as soon as they opened back up) thinking it'd be the refresh turns out it's 24 and now I can't get high end 3D, pure comedy.








